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作者: wxiaobin    时间: 2003-9-20 00:01
标题: og 255 请赐教
255. The bank holds $3 billion in loans that are seriously delinquent or in such trouble that they do not expect payments when due.

(A) they do not expect payments when
(B) it does not expect payments when it is
(C) it does not expect payments to be made when they are
(D) payments are not to be expected to be paid when
(E) payments are not expected to be paid when they will be
作者: braveMBA    时间: 2003-9-20 01:52
什么问题?

D、E先排除payment ..expected to be paid 意思重复;A中的THEY有指代错误,BANK;B中的两个it如果指代BANK,说bank is due是不合理的。OG好象解释得还比较清楚。
作者: wxiaobin    时间: 2003-9-20 08:58
谢谢楼上的热情回帖。

我就是觉得it does not expect很繁琐,但是d e确实又不大对,每个都有致命错误。所以比较困惑
作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-18 15:25

255. The bank holds $3 billion in loans that are seriously delinquent or in such trouble that they do not expect payments when due.



(A)  they do not expect payments when



(B)  it does not expect payments when it is



(C)  it does not expect payments to be made when they are



(D)  payments are not to be expected to be paid when



(E)   payments are not expected to be paid when they will be


Choice C is the best answer,


以下是引用braveMBA在2003-9-20 1:52:00的发言:
什么问题?

D、E先排除payment ..expected to be paid 意思重复;A中的THEY有指代错误,BANK;B中的两个it如果指代BANK,说bank is due是不合理的。OG好象解释得还比较清楚。

为什么payment.. expected to be paid意思重复呢


OG对E的解释是payments... to be paid is redun­dant and unidiomatic,不知怎么重复了,如何修改,还请大家多多指教


谢谢!


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作者: leslie123456789    时间: 2004-8-18 18:38

payment 和 pay(paid)不就是同一个意思吗?


作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-18 22:15

谢谢leslie mm的明示

偶太糊涂了,开始硬是没看出来


作者: xionghuixh    时间: 2004-10-12 08:53

C中 的 THEY 是不是也有点指代模糊,因为,是不是有可能指代loans??

指代问题一直把我弄糊涂了??


作者: hougang    时间: 2004-11-17 17:00

个人觉得那样指代的话,可能会太远了点吧,而且我觉得关于指代的问题,还应该能够从逻辑上去加以判断。

但是具体说不清楚,还请nn指教。


作者: kenshin    时间: 2004-11-17 20:05
可以这样指代的原因在于,整个句子的主语就是bank,而且这里仅有一个单数名词,所以不会混淆的。另外payments are not expected to be made是可以的,to be paid是不可以的
作者: LES    时间: 2004-11-17 21:43
代词指代遵循就近优先指代原则。
作者: biss33    时间: 2005-4-14 09:00
问什么to be paid 不可以,to be made 就可以了呢?
作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-14 13:27

OG解释的已经很清楚: payment to be paid语意重复. 而payment to be made就不重复


作者: 小女公子    时间: 2005-4-15 21:24

255. The bank holds $3 billion in loans that are seriously delinquent or in such trouble that they do not expect payments when due.

(A)  they do not expect payments when

(B)  it does not expect payments when it is

(C)  it does not expect payments to be made when they are

(D)  payments are not to be expected to be paid when

(E)   payments are not expected to be paid when they will be

想请教一下A中的省略。是不是省略不清??


作者: 小女公子    时间: 2005-4-15 21:25

另外,og says

Also, are not to be in D and will be in E inappropriately shift action to the future

我觉得用将来很正常,是将来到期嘛


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-16 09:39

when due是一个很正常的说法.

如果用将来时的话, 那是否表示现在不希望呢?


作者: peajack    时间: 2005-4-29 22:42
同意楼上
作者: ethyl    时间: 2005-5-4 03:18

对,due本身就有将来到期的意思

A中省略应该是:when (they are) due

BTW,个人觉得,DE中的they指代问题不大,毕竟在……in such trouble that 后面的部分里面只有payments是可以指代的


作者: weichenli    时间: 2005-8-22 18:31
以下是引用小女公子在2005-4-15 21:25:00的发言:

另外,og says


Also, are not to be in D and will be in E inappropriately shift action to the future


我觉得用将来很正常,是将来到期嘛


为什么D 明明用 ARE 却说是将来的意思呢? are not to be expected..大不了是被动么


作者: weichenli    时间: 2005-8-25 18:46

got it now, so embarrassed


by the way, i agree with previous floors!


作者: llrllrllr    时间: 2005-11-9 20:23

In D and E, the use of the passive (payments are not... expected to be paid) does not contribute meaningfully to the sentence and thus is unwarranted,


OG的这句话怎么解释,请教NN,


用被动态时必须指出动作的发出者吗?没有就算错吗?


作者: brissa    时间: 2006-1-13 11:23
以下是引用llrllrllr在2005-11-9 20:23:00的发言:

In D and E, the use of the passive (payments are not... expected to be paid) does not contribute meaningfully to the sentence and thus is unwarranted,


OG的这句话怎么解释,请教NN,


用被动态时必须指出动作的发出者吗?没有就算错吗?


同问,还有啥叫not contribute meaningfully?


作者: brent_zhang    时间: 2006-1-13 13:47
我理解是,句子中有明确的动作发出者,并且被动表达的意思并不比主动更好,所以说not contribute meaningfully:没有使句子有更丰富的含义。
作者: michaelyun    时间: 2006-7-28 14:47

我的理解是:

能主动尽量主动,在动作的发出者不明确的时候,才用被动。记得有例子的,什么能源消耗什么的。。。


作者: hccihll    时间: 2006-7-28 17:26
pay payments不是正確的慣用語,正確的慣用語應是make payments才是
作者: maydaythekid    时间: 2006-8-10 03:22
以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-14 13:27:00的发言:

OG解释的已经很清楚: payment to be paid语意重复. 而payment to be made就不重复

惭愧,完全忽略了OG这一条解释
作者: gorgeous621    时间: 2007-5-21 22:40
C中的THEY指代的是LOANS把?不是PAYMENTS?比较困惑
作者: eXtreme    时间: 2007-7-18 15:08
The bank holds $3 billion in loans that are seriously delinquent or in such trouble that it does not expect payments to be made when they are due.

The bank(主语) holds (谓语)$3 billion in loans (宾语)that are seriously delinquent (定语从句)or in
such trouble that it does not expect payments to be made when they are
due. (???)

从Or 开始后面是什么成分。大侠能否分析下这个句子的结构是怎样的?看着就糊涂了。
作者: yore101    时间: 2007-8-3 17:15

续问本题句法结构及指代:

这个句子乍一看挺清楚,但是多琢磨一下就犯糊涂了,请指教。

The bank holds $3 billion in loans that(引导定语从句,修饰loans) are seriously delinquent or in such trouble that(trouble的同位语从句) it does not expect payments to be made when they are due.

句中的it为什么一定是指代bank呢?最近的单数名词是trouble呀?


作者: Colx    时间: 2008-4-14 13:18
以下是引用yore101在2007-8-3 17:15:00的发言:

续问本题句法结构及指代:

这个句子乍一看挺清楚,但是多琢磨一下就犯糊涂了,请指教。

The bank holds $3 billion in loans that(引导定语从句,修饰loans) are seriously delinquent or in such trouble that(trouble的同位语从句) it does not expect payments to be made when they are due.

句中的it为什么一定是指代bank呢?最近的单数名词是trouble呀?

逻辑!trouble 如何 expect ?


作者: elfgoer    时间: 2008-9-19 19:25
以下是引用gorgeous621在2007-5-21 22:40:00的发言:
C中的THEY指代的是LOANS把?不是PAYMENTS?比较困惑

我也有跟你一樣的疑惑, 我覺得they應該指代loans, 會due的應該是loans, 而不是payments
作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2008-11-20 00:36

When I took the question, I also regarded they as the representation of loans. But OG interprets that this preposition represents payments. I would like to receive OG's notion and considere it the logical and idiomatic difference between Chinese and English language. In other words, we say dai kuan dao qi in Chinese while payments will be due in English.  

Moreover, when they are due is an adverbial modifier of condition here rather than a modifier of time. That is the reason why the subordinate clause uses simple present tense to refer to the future.


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