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发表于 2013-3-22 09:38:37 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
非常能理解各位MBA申请者对于学校的各方的考量, 因为毕竟MBA项目是一个非常大的投资, 谁会对自己的未来职业生涯和高额的学费开玩笑呢!作为Johns Hopkins Carey Business SchoolAdmissions OfficeGraduate Assistant我也希望能更好的服务大家的申请和择校过程。 也看到大家想看看真正在GMBA读书的人的具体感受的一些帖子。


所以小编选择了一些类似于chasedream 的美国论坛, 上面有许多申请MBA的美国职业人士, 他们对于美国的学校,地理位置, 学校名气好坏,项目的好坏相信要比许多中国申请者和中国留学生了解的多得多。所以我选择了一些在这些论坛上的一些Carey的应届生的帖子和将要来CareyMBA的职业人士与大家分享他们的心得。 希望能对大家的择校和申请有借鉴作用!



l  EmoryNole wrote:

I was accepted to Emory, as myusername would suggest, but I am very interested in the JHU program. Thistalk about rankings is silly. MSU Broad and SMU broke into the top 25 this yearso make no mistake about it, there is room for new comers in the top 25.Vanderbilt and Georgetown would agree.
这位被Emory录取的同学,在考虑JHU 的项目
As forJHU v. GTown in the BoWash demo, I wouldn't worry. NYU and Columbia aren'tlamenting the competition in NY. To put MD and GW on the same level as JHU andGTown is a stretch. While, yes, their MBA programs are mature, they are not inthe same league in terms of prestige. JHU is one of the most prestigious univerisities in theworld, period, end of story. World class universities don't tolerate mediocrityand JHU's Carey MBA will be world class.
学校的名气真的是不用说了啊!
That being said, I would have to think long and hard about turning down a UNC,GTown or (in my case) Emory admit for the gamble. Plain and simple, the alumnibase is scant and all new things have bugs to fix. You will have access to any job opportunities youwant from JHU, but not the alumni to hold the door for you as you walk in. Whatis one of the main advantages of a top 25 MBA? That alumni holding the door foryou as you walk in. So, weigh that.
一所新的商学院确实会有较少的校友圈, 这点大家也可以考虑在内。
Ultimately,if you are struggling to gain acceptance to a top 25 program (stalwarts, notthe "oh, would you look at that, MSU and SMU are top schools thisyear"), JHU is a phenomenal opportunity you may never have again (at leastnot until CalTech or Brown develop an MBA). You have the chance to be part ofsomething big, something new, something special that you may not ordinarliyget. Carpe Diem, my friends!


源自于GMAT Club
http://gmatclub.com/forum/johns-hopkins-carey-business-school-112451-20.html

小编认为:
JHU brand name在世界上都是首屈一指的。 正像Emory Note(Emory 录取)的仁兄所说:“ JHU is one of the most prestigious universities inthe world, period, end of story. World class universities don't toleratemediocrity and JHU’s Carey MBA will be world class.

还有就是如果大家希望在美国有些工作实习经验的话, 觉得在选择学校的时候要考虑地理位置。 纽约有ColumbiaNYU两强竞争. DC这座美国首府就是JHU Georgetown 的竞争了。 在一个好的location意味着更多的职场人脉和更大的工作机会, 对于MBA 来说这是非常重要的。 Emory Note也觉得:You will have access to any job opportunities you wantfrom JHU, but not the alumni to hold the door for you as you walk in. What isone of the main advantages of a top 25 MBA? That alumni holding the door foryou as you walk in. So, weigh that.


l  以下是位GMBA的在读学生的心得:
Re: Johns Hopkins Carey Business School [#permalink]
21 Feb 2012, 14:16This post received
KUDOS

I believe I may be one of the mythical JHUfull-time MBAs you are discussing and I'll be glad to weigh in! Firstoff, this is a worthwhile discussion. Choosing to go to a "startup"b-school is a big decision. The best I can do is offer my perspective and explainthe logic I used when deciding to come to Carey. I'll try to address only thethemes that you all brought up directly.
是一位在读的GMAB学生, 很好的职业背景。

My background: Igrew up in Africa, went to a Virginia state school to study Computer Science,joined a software company that was recently acquired by Oracle, and startedanother company that raised some money but then failed in the economicdownturn.

Accreditation: In my mind,this didn't matter at all. As many of you have mentioned, Johns Hopkins is aworld-renowned institution of higher learning. They are not going to graduateincapable full-time MBAs. I have had employers ask me about accreditation, butthe question always more of a "why did you choose to go to a school withno track record" question.

Alumni base:We've graduated thousands of part-time MBAs for many years. While our alumnibase may be more localized than some, it is active and passionate about the newprogram. At the end of theday, even an alum won't just hand new graduates jobs. They may help get aninterview, but after that, you're on your own.
JHU 你周围一定是优秀的人, 但最后工作的话, 你的同学能帮助到你, 但最重要的还是自己哇!

Name recognition: JHU is considered one of themost recognized educational brands worldwide. Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley,Columbia, and Yale are other names that carry similar heft. Ask peoplein Europe or Asia outside the MBA bubble about Northwestern, Chicago, UPenn(let alone the words Kellogg, Booth, or Wharton) and you might be left withsome courteous nods. However, if you want admission to the "MBAworld" of jobs, you may want to go to one of those schools. I was willingto take my chances with Johns Hopkins on my resume. Similarly, the number ofAmerican hirers who have heard of any European b-schools besides Oxford andCambridge is small. (Sad but true)
JHU
的名气享誉全球,这个是事实。 至于是不是和哈弗, 斯坦福齐名看各个领域不同吧。

Track record for recruiting: The only stats I know come fromthe inaugural class' internships last summer. We had a 99% internship placementrate (of all students, not just those who reported). Some of the companies weworked for include Accenture, Acumen Fund,Amazon, Apple, Disney, Goldman,IBM, J&J, Kiva, Microsoft, Siemens, UBS, the US State Department, and theUnited Nations.
99%
实习机会, 都是大公司!

Finance placement: Some companies I know thatclassmates received offers from include: Deutche Bank, Citigroup, Barclays, BNYMellon, Brown Advisory, Stifel Nicolaus, UBS, and in the non-profit space,Grameen, Kiva, and Ashoka. I worked as a Senior FA last summer in InvestorRelations for Agilent Technologies (NYSE: A)
他的班级同学两年MBA之后得到的offer.当然要考虑存在报喜不报忧的现象, 但至少这个公司list已经很不错了。

Ranking: Right now,we're not concerning ourselves with rankings. We have incredible students, brilliant faculty, and cooljobs. Rankings will come with accreditation and time.
对于学校的教授, 未来的排名, 周围同学反馈还是比较积极的

Regional Perception: GW, UMD, and Georgetown are allgreat schools. However, I wanted a top-tier name on my resume that would get meinto the interview rooms at the most selective companies in the US (like Googleand Amazon). Georgetown, UMD, and GWUhaven't placed anyone at either company in the past year. We have and I believethat speaks to the quality of both our brand and our students.
这位同学想要进top-tier 的公司, 所以选择了JHU的名气帮助他毕业有的工作选择。

Summary
At the end of the day, what matters most is what
you want out of anMBA. Do you follow the status quo, or are you willing to walk the road lesstraveled? Are you willing to challenge yourself in the company of world-classfaculty in a small-school environment? Do you want a mandatory abroad componentthat is more involved than the week-long "field-trip" common at mostb-schools? Do you want to work on commercializing a discovery from JHU's immensebody of research?

It's not for everyone, but it was for me.
_________________


Jack Hirsch
Carey Business School '12
Johns Hopkins University

源自于GMAT Club
http://gmatclub.com/forum/johns-hopkins-carey-business-school-112451-20.html


l  另一位Carey MBA在读同学
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 Current student here.
 
 Your question is very opened ended... Will Hopkins Carey lead to"a good  job"? As long as you put yourself out there, of course it will. In what  industry are you working? Are you looking to stay there, or to change  careers? What is your ideal position upon graduation? Are you looking for a  full time or part time program? I think those types of questions should drive  your decisions about B-school.
 
 My experience so far (half way through and coming from an ivy league  background) has left me very impressed by the program. The students and  faculty are dedicated to the school's unique mission and committed to seeing  it succeed, and to have that success mirrored in the rankings. Hopkins U ranks just outside  of the 10 globally, and higher than many Ivy league schools. In the years to  come, I think we can expect the Carey school to rise accordingly.
 
对于JHUCarey 的信心。
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 Re AACSB accreditation,  it has honestly never come up with any of the employers with whom I've  interacted, and it's not a preoccupation of the students, nor the faculty.  The reality is that you need a full time program to get AACSB accred and the  first cohorts of that newly created program have just started getting out  into the workforce. So, the school is in that process. I do work in  healthcare and needed a part-time program, but I also chose Hopkins Carey  over a number of other AACSB accredited schools - Georgetown and Cornell, to  be specific - and I think AACSB should be the last reason to choose a  different program.

 
 
这位同学认为大家担忧的AACSB的问题,  可能到最后面试从不被提及。
 
 Hopkins has opened doors for me in the healthcare field that I'm convinced an  MBA from a place like NYU or Columbia simply wouldn't have. But with all  things MBA, it's just a foot in the door, and there are many more students at  Harvard who want to work for Google or McKinsey than there are offers made to  those students. That is  to say, reputation and your network isn't a golden ticket to anything.

 

  源自于The Baltimore Sun
http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?t=323061
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-22 09:58:07 | 只看该作者
各位有任何问题请写在下面, 希望能帮助到大家!
板凳
发表于 2013-3-22 10:33:40 | 只看该作者
你好,我听说申请你们学校的GMBA的程序很复杂,是真的吗?能详细的介绍一下申请过程吗?谢谢
地板
发表于 2013-3-22 10:42:27 | 只看该作者
你好 我是IT背景,请问往届有IT背景并且是大陆的人进入吗? 另外,JHU对GT的要求如何呢? 谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-22 10:59:26 | 只看该作者
你好Ericxin,

Application Checklist
Home > Global MBA Admissions
1.Application Form (online)

2.Personal Essays (online)

3.Two Professional Recommendations (online)

4.GMAT Score

5.TOEFL or IELTS Score (for international applicants, unless otherwise specified)

6.Current Resume/CV

7.Official Transcripts

这是学校官网上的要求, 对于国际生(你的本科如果不是美国的学位)你的成绩单需要WES认证, 一般对于美国比较好的学校, 都需要第三方认证。 这样对所有的申请者也比较公平公正。


截止时间:
Application deadlines for Fall 2013
Round One: November 18, 2012

Round Two: January 13, 2013

Round Three: March 17, 2013

Round Four: May 12, 2013

Round Five: June 16, 2013

*Note to international applicants: You are required to apply by April 1, 2013, in order to facilitate visa arrangements.
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-22 11:15:53 | 只看该作者
你好mxb93,

GMBA喜欢招收各行各业的精英, 往届也有IT行业的大陆人进入。 所以大家所认为的一定要咨询或者投行,那也不一定。


关于GT的分数没有确定的分数线, 因为每个人的优势领域不同。 举例说: 招生官如果看到一个有个人创业经验的人, 可能GMAT分数低一些也会招收, 因为这些有创业经验的人可以给课堂带来很多独到见解。 所以没有确定分数线。


当然对于工作经验不足或者工作背景自认为不够好的申请者来说, 建议分数当然越高越好。
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发表于 2013-3-22 11:29:29 | 只看该作者
2012届是很好
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-23 10:56:32 | 只看该作者
关于WES的事情,JHU需要所有本科及其以上的学位凡是在中国得到的, 都要通过WES认证。 所以如果有申请者本科是中国读的, 硕士是美国的, 还是得把本科的学位认证了才能完成整个申请过程。 谢谢!

小编知道WES有些麻烦, 自己也做过WES认证(GPA做好以后还上去了呢!), 但是这对所有的申请者会比较公平公正。
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