NNNNNNNNNNNN们！ 求解啊~ OG12 SC43中的指代问题。。 我已经快纠结致死了。。。。。。。

yuanxun59

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
C答案OG解释说them指代不明。。。 请问哪里指代不明了啊。。。 前面就只有four million people这一个复数啊~~  要说指代错误，我都还能理解点，就是前面的重点是population,后面改成which，。。 但是指代不明算个什么事儿啊。。。

yuanxun59

看了好多帖子还是木有答案。。。。。。。

清飞扬

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
C答案OG解释说them指代不明。。。 请问哪里指代不明了啊。。。 前面就只有four million people这一个复数啊~~  要说指代错误，我都还能理解点，就是前面的重点是population,后面改成which，。。 但是指代不明算个什么事儿啊。。。

-- by 会员 yuanxun59 (2011/10/14 15:15:08)

我不是NN，我只是试试看

(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
==》1. 比较错误，Laos has a land area  about the same as Great Britain  这个是拿 land area和great Briain来比较，但是Laos是和britain概念对等的，应该是land area in Laos和In Great Britain的对比才是平行对称的。
2. 此外where是修饰地理位置的，但是放在这边修饰population人口，就修饰错误了

(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
==》1. 依旧是比较错误；Laos has a land area of about the same size as Great Britain is，==>a land area of about the same size和Great Britain比较，这个在A中已经说明了，比较点不对等。此外laos是用has，但是britain用的是is ，比较平行的话动词必须是平行一致的。
也就是 sb/sth do xxx sb/ sth do
OR. sb/sth can xxx sb/sth can
or. sb/sth be xxx sb/sth be
这种的助动词在比较两边必须是平行的可是这里是：has...be...明显是不对称了

2. but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many are members of hill tribes xxx ==>说真的这个many不知道是指代谁的。因为这句句子前面根本就没有复数可以和many来对应的,population吗？可是这个是单数。虽然语义是可以正确理解和翻译，但是当中有语法的错误，不能这么用的
我想LZ也不会用many来指代million把，这个是明显的不对的

(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
==>Laos has a land area that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area，这个比较应该可以，因为是指area 和GB的land area的size来比。但是后面半句有问题

根据句子结构：svo, but svo是对的；svo but vo是对的，svo but o是对的，可是svo, but o/介词词组就不对了。but后面应该是句子的，可是这里 in Laos 介词词组；with a population of only four million people介词词组

还有一个错误；Laos has xxxx, but xxx, many of them are xxx后面这块加粗的，LZ可以看得出来是clause1，but 介词词组，clause2==>且不论这个but不能作为插入被省掉，如果but 不省略：but xxx, clause当中缺少连接词，所以是run on sentence.如果把but结构去掉，还是clause1, clause2还是缺少连接词，所以还是RUN ON SENTENCE

(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
==》1. Laos has a land area comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population==》这个是把land area和size 作比较了，有点奇怪

2. and many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.==>又发生了A中所说的many的情况

(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
==>Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people==>是land area的比较，比较点一样。

还有but的结构也正确:刚才有提到：svo but vo, 这里是==>Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but (Laos has )a population of only four million people，用but体现出了一种正确的转折

2. only four million people, many of whom are xxx, whom很正确的指代了people和前句结合成了一种从句的结构
此外一般口语会说：there were 50 women, and many of them were brunettes. --> 口语中说的，但是书面语不太这么用
而 there were 50 women, many of whom were brunettes.-->是书面语的通常表达


不知道我的分析是否正确，等NN来拍

hellocrystal

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
C答案OG解释说them指代不明。。。 请问哪里指代不明了啊。。。 前面就只有four million people这一个复数啊~~  要说指代错误，我都还能理解点，就是前面的重点是population,后面改成which，。。 但是指代不明算个什么事儿啊。。。

-- by 会员 yuanxun59 (2011/10/14 15:15:08)

我不是NN，我只是试试看

(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
==》1. 比较错误，Laos has a land area  about the same as Great Britain  这个是拿 land area和great Briain来比较，但是Laos是和britain概念对等的，应该是land area in Laos和In Great Britain的对比才是平行对称的。
2. 此外where是修饰地理位置的，但是放在这边修饰population人口，就修饰错误了

(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
==》1. 依旧是比较错误；Laos has a land area of about the same size as Great Britain is，==>a land area of about the same size和Great Britain比较，这个在A中已经说明了，比较点不对等。此外laos是用has，但是britain用的是is ，比较平行的话动词必须是平行一致的。
也就是 sb/sth do xxx sb/ sth do
OR. sb/sth can xxx sb/sth can
or. sb/sth be xxx sb/sth be
这种的助动词在比较两边必须是平行的可是这里是：has...be...明显是不对称了

2. but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many are members of hill tribes xxx ==>说真的这个many不知道是指代谁的。因为这句句子前面根本就没有复数可以和many来对应的,population吗？可是这个是单数。虽然语义是可以正确理解和翻译，但是当中有语法的错误，不能这么用的
我想LZ也不会用many来指代million把，这个是明显的不对的

(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
==>Laos has a land area that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area，这个比较应该可以，因为是指area 和GB的land area的size来比。但是后面半句有问题

根据句子结构：svo, but svo是对的；svo but vo是对的，svo but o是对的，可是svo, but o/介词词组就不对了。but后面应该是句子的，可是这里 in Laos 介词词组；with a population of only four million people介词词组

还有一个错误；Laos has xxxx, but xxx, many of them are xxx后面这块加粗的，LZ可以看得出来是clause1，but 介词词组，clause2==>且不论这个but不能作为插入被省掉，如果but 不省略：but xxx, clause当中缺少连接词，所以是run on sentence.如果把but结构去掉，还是clause1, clause2还是缺少连接词，所以还是RUN ON SENTENCE

(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
==》1. Laos has a land area comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population==》这个是把land area和size 作比较了，有点奇怪

2. and many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.==>又发生了A中所说的many的情况

(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
==>Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people==>是land area的比较，比较点一样。

还有but的结构也正确:刚才有提到：svo but vo, 这里是==>Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but (Laos has )a population of only four million people，用but体现出了一种正确的转折

2. only four million people, many of whom are xxx, whom很正确的指代了people和前句结合成了一种从句的结构
此外一般口语会说：there were 50 women, and many of them were brunettes. --> 口语中说的，但是书面语不太这么用
而 there were 50 women, many of whom were brunettes.-->是书面语的通常表达


不知道我的分析是否正确，等NN来拍

-- by 会员 清飞扬 (2011/10/14 16:52:48)

大牛！！！！你这个回复解决了一直以来我对but用法的困惑啊啊啊啊
ＰＳ：问一下哈：but+clause，clause也是run-on句型么？ 不是有了but了么？还是说两个从句之间应该还有个连词，那个but只是but+clause这个句子和它前面的那个句子的连词？

yuanxun59

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
C答案OG解释说them指代不明。。。 请问哪里指代不明了啊。。。 前面就只有four million people这一个复数啊~~  要说指代错误，我都还能理解点，就是前面的重点是population,后面改成which，。。 但是指代不明算个什么事儿啊。。。

-- by 会员 yuanxun59 (2011/10/14 15:15:08)

我不是NN，我只是试试看

(A)    about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
==》1. 比较错误，Laos has a land area  about the same as Great Britain  这个是拿 land area和great Briain来比较，但是Laos是和britain概念对等的，应该是land area in Laos和In Great Britain的对比才是平行对称的。
2. 此外where是修饰地理位置的，但是放在这边修饰population人口，就修饰错误了

(B)    of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
==》1. 依旧是比较错误；Laos has a land area of about the same size as Great Britain is，==>a land area of about the same size和Great Britain比较，这个在A中已经说明了，比较点不对等。此外laos是用has，但是britain用的是is ，比较平行的话动词必须是平行一致的。
也就是 sb/sth do xxx sb/ sth do
OR. sb/sth can xxx sb/sth can
or. sb/sth be xxx sb/sth be
这种的助动词在比较两边必须是平行的可是这里是：has...be...明显是不对称了

2. but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many are members of hill tribes xxx ==>说真的这个many不知道是指代谁的。因为这句句子前面根本就没有复数可以和many来对应的,population吗？可是这个是单数。虽然语义是可以正确理解和翻译，但是当中有语法的错误，不能这么用的
我想LZ也不会用many来指代million把，这个是明显的不对的

(C)    that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
==>Laos has a land area that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area，这个比较应该可以，因为是指area 和GB的land area的size来比。但是后面半句有问题

根据句子结构：svo, but svo是对的；svo but vo是对的，svo but o是对的，可是svo, but o/介词词组就不对了。but后面应该是句子的，可是这里 in Laos 介词词组；with a population of only four million people介词词组

还有一个错误；Laos has xxxx, but xxx, many of them are xxx后面这块加粗的，LZ可以看得出来是clause1，but 介词词组，clause2==>且不论这个but不能作为插入被省掉，如果but 不省略：but xxx, clause当中缺少连接词，所以是run on sentence.如果把but结构去掉，还是clause1, clause2还是缺少连接词，所以还是RUN ON SENTENCE

(D)    comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
==》1. Laos has a land area comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population==》这个是把land area和size 作比较了，有点奇怪

2. and many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.==>又发生了A中所说的many的情况

(E)    comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
==>Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people==>是land area的比较，比较点一样。

还有but的结构也正确:刚才有提到：svo but vo, 这里是==>Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but (Laos has )a population of only four million people，用but体现出了一种正确的转折

2. only four million people, many of whom are xxx, whom很正确的指代了people和前句结合成了一种从句的结构
此外一般口语会说：there were 50 women, and many of them were brunettes. --> 口语中说的，但是书面语不太这么用
而 there were 50 women, many of whom were brunettes.-->是书面语的通常表达


不知道我的分析是否正确，等NN来拍

-- by 会员 清飞扬 (2011/10/14 16:52:48)

非常非常感谢！！ 我基本上懂了.. 答案中说的them指代不明 意思就是 根本不知道这个them到底在说什么，因为前文根本就没出现。 是吧？ 我当时就只看到了but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them这个地方.. 根本没有看整句...

hellocrystal

看了好多帖子还是木有答案。。。。。。。

-- by 会员 yuanxun59 (2011/10/14 15:19:32)

首先我不是牛人哈，我只是上午也研究了这个题，跟你分享一下。
那个them在题中的意思是强指population而population是集合名词，不应该被用they，them之类的词指代的。
it，they，them都是完全指代，就是连带着修饰成分加核心名词都指代了，所以them在这里应该指的是a population of only 4 million people。就跟我上面说的一样，不能用they来指代。

小女子非牛，轻拍

yuanxun59

你看看2L的说法呢？
 其实我对OG解释中的 the reference of them is unclear中的unclear 比较有疑惑.  这个unclear是指的前面有两个可以指代的词语,不知道到底指代的是哪个呢 还是说前面根本就没有可供them指代的词语？

清飞扬

你这个回复解决了一直以来我对but用法的困惑啊啊啊啊
ＰＳ：问一下哈：but+clause，clause也是run-on句型么？ 不是有了but了么？还是说两个从句之间应该还有个连词，那个but只是but+clause这个句子和它前面的那个句子的连词？

-- by 会员 hellocrystal (2011/10/14 17:03:20)

clause(svo), but clause(svo)不是run on sentence,因为but是连接词

hellocrystal

你这个回复解决了一直以来我对but用法的困惑啊啊啊啊
ＰＳ：问一下哈：but+clause，clause也是run-on句型么？ 不是有了but了么？还是说两个从句之间应该还有个连词，那个but只是but+clause这个句子和它前面的那个句子的连词？

-- by 会员 hellocrystal (2011/10/14 17:03:20)

clause(svo), but clause(svo)不是run on sentence,因为but是连接词

-- by 会员 清飞扬 (2011/10/14 17:21:14)

您说的这个我懂，我是说but+clause，clause是run-on句型么？应该是but+clause，连词clause才对是吧？但是这种结构好别扭啊。从来没有看见过这种结构呢。。。所以小女子各种疑惑求大牛赐教

hellocrystal

你看看2L的说法呢？
 其实我对OG解释中的 the reference of them is unclear中的unclear 比较有疑惑.  这个unclear是指的前面有两个可以指代的词语,不知道到底指代的是哪个呢 还是说前面根本就没有可供them指代的词语？

-- by 会员 yuanxun59 (2011/10/14 17:21:11)

其实我觉得两种说法都解释的通，但是我偏向后者。。。