OG12 SC 126 又不懂OG再说神马啊~~

rocer

同时，关于in turn的位置的问题 和 非就近指代的问题，以下下是个人的看法：

In turn 如果放在中间，那么emotional reactions> unconscious physiological（>表示时间先后的关系）；放在后面，则emotional reactions= unconscious physiological

That/which 跳跃引导定语从句的几种情况：
1、同位语结构。同位语名词+of等介词结构
2、后面跟介词短语作介词短语，n+preposition+….

这几点基本没有争议吧  欢迎拍砖

phoebe0624

up！！！

yuha1111

妈的，这题弄了半天，只能心痛的表示，答案是不是要把封号前后两句弄反了，if  comma那句在前。按原来没有逗号的结构，creating修饰几百年也修饰不到lying头上去，咱得勇于挑战GMAC狗屎的解释，GMAC全家awkward and wordy...

ClioC

妈的，这题弄了半天，只能心痛的表示，答案是不是要把封号前后两句弄反了，if  comma那句在前。按原来没有逗号的结构，creating修饰几百年也修饰不到lying头上去，咱得勇于挑战GMAC狗屎的解释，GMAC全家awkward and wordy...

-- by 会员 yuha1111 (2012/3/13 0:58:01)

真是很久没看到这么给力的评论了。。。。
您老人家威武！

babybearmm

Receiving a PM, I decide to weigh in.

comma + v-ing
只要comma前面存在完整的clause，就一定是adverbial modifier
如果comma前面不存在完整的clause，就一定是noun modifier （典型例子： Neuroscientists, having amassed ..., are now drawing ...）
以上是毫无争议的定论，参见Ron的讲课、forum发言, e-gmat总结, stacey发言.....

这题，仍然是adverbial modifier
注意Ron总结的是，v-ing针对adverbial modifier针对的是preceding clause   （链接在suri发的一个v-ing贴子里）
什么叫做preceding clause? 为什么不叫做main clause?

这题C选项是错误的，按照C选项的说法：
(C). The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual, creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses
Grammatically speaking, "creating ..." serves as an adverbial modifier of the preceding clause "lying produces emotional reactions in an individual" and applies to the subject within that clause ("lying"). Therefore, C is illogical. This is why OG says:
creating seems to refer back to lying

126. The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption
that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual
that, in turn, create unconscious physiological
responses.

(C) creating, in turn, unconscious physiological
responses
C是错误答案。

OG上说 creating seems to refer back to lying. (正确的是 creating 应该修饰 emotional reactions)
我觉得creating 紧跟在induvidual之后，语法上就是做individual 的后置定语。
那OG是什么意思呢？

-- by 会员 坨坨元 (2011/7/26 17:21:42)

babybearmm

不好意思，刚才没核对OG，刚发现这题C选项creating前面没有comma
那么，lz没错，"no comma + v-ing" is a noun modifier.
但是作为noun modifier，既可以是修饰"individual"，也可以修饰"emotional reactions in an individual"，往往根据句意来决定修饰什么。

但C选项仍然错，因为逻辑
A的逻辑是个链式关系，正确
而C的逻辑是：on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions (modifiers)

babybearmm

see Stacey's input here
http://www.beatthegmat.com/lie-detectors-t52139.html

In C, "creating ..." is a noun modifier, but what's the modified noun? Here is an ambiguity.

maomiguaiguai

SVO,doing doing由S发出即伴随状语

teddybearj4

mark一下姐姐高度浓缩总结的Ving的两种情况，顿时豁然开朗！

Receiving a PM, I decide to weigh in.

comma + v-ing
只要comma前面存在完整的clause，就一定是adverbial modifier
如果comma前面不存在完整的clause，就一定是noun modifier （典型例子： Neuroscientists, having amassed ..., are now drawing ...）
以上是毫无争议的定论，参见Ron的讲课、forum发言, e-gmat总结, stacey发言.....

这题，仍然是adverbial modifier
注意Ron总结的是，v-ing针对adverbial modifier针对的是preceding clause   （链接在suri发的一个v-ing贴子里）
什么叫做preceding clause? 为什么不叫做main clause?

这题C选项是错误的，按照C选项的说法：
(C). The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption thatlying produces emotional reactions in an individual, creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses
Grammatically speaking, "creating ..." serves as an adverbial modifier of the preceding clause "lying produces emotional reactions in an individual" and applies to the subject within that clause ("lying"). Therefore, C is illogical. This is why OG says:
creating seems to refer back to lying

126. The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption
that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual
that, in turn, create unconscious physiological
responses.

(C) creating, in turn, unconscious physiological
responses
C是错误答案。

OG上说 creating seems to refer back to lying. (正确的是 creating 应该修饰 emotional reactions)
我觉得creating 紧跟在induvidual之后，语法上就是做individual 的后置定语。
那OG是什么意思呢？

-- by 会员 坨坨元 (2011/7/26 17:21:42)

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/2 9:52:26)

zwhjzwhj

不好意思，刚才没核对OG，刚发现这题C选项creating前面没有comma
那么，lz没错，"no comma + v-ing" is a noun modifier.
但是作为noun modifier，既可以是修饰"individual"，也可以修饰"emotional reactions in an individual"，往往根据句意来决定修饰什么。

但C选项仍然错，因为逻辑
A的逻辑是个链式关系，正确
而C的逻辑是：on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions (modifiers)

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/2 10:00:09)

问题是在no comma的情况下，OG说ving它修饰的是lying ！？
because creating seems to refer back to lying; if used as a participial, creating would have to be preceded by a comma.
话说OG这句话实在太高深了。。。我看了这么多讨论分词修饰的帖子都没真正弄明白这句话想表达的意思。