MAFN@Columbia 和 MSFM@Chicago，大家选哪个？

youayou

Students with CSEE background get more benefit from UC because there are so many quant fund or prop trading firms in Chicago, which give extremely good compensation (require hard core programming/math skills at same time). Also The competition is significantly less in Chicago as well. But if you want to do quant in IB, Columbia is probably a better choice. Not sure about MAFN's placement. Know a guy working in my team as IT is from that program though (still good pay, 100K base + 50K sign-in bonus)

Other two programs are not comparable at all. Not sure how other guys get UC=UIUC but that is just bs, not even mention Fordham. Finance may be the industry that discriminate school brand most.

-- by 会员 youayou (2011/3/14 12:59:43)

To Morningside，我是对此评论的。。。

前台IT的话，50%bonus还是可能的吧

-- by 会员 CorCorC (2011/3/14 13:48:50)

投行前台 = IBD ST PWM Research PE(fund)
投行里IT永远是BO

-- by 会员 MorningSide (2011/3/14 13:50:58)

Do you know Morgan Stanley PDT? Or Credit Suisse AES?Those are definitey pure tech FO team. MS is now building a desk strategist team mixed with traditional quant and developer/IT people.　

It may be reasonable to think in your way 10 years ago. But for now it is absurd to rｅｆｅｒ　ＩＴ only to database, network or other infrastructure team, as more derivatives become standard, electrical, clearing/central trading.

大荣

Students with CSEE background get more benefit from UC because there are so many quant fund or prop trading firms in Chicago, which give extremely good compensation (require hard core programming/math skills at same time). Also The competition is significantly less in Chicago as well. But if you want to do quant in IB, Columbia is probably a better choice. Not sure about MAFN's placement. Know a guy working in my team as IT is from that program though (still good pay, 100K base + 50K sign-in bonus)

Other two programs are not comparable at all. Not sure how other guys get UC=UIUC but that is just bs, not even mention Fordham. Finance may be the industry that discriminate school brand most.

-- by 会员 youayou (2011/3/14 12:59:43)

To Morningside，我是对此评论的。。。

前台IT的话，50%bonus还是可能的吧

-- by 会员 CorCorC (2011/3/14 13:48:50)

投行前台 = IBD ST PWM Research PE(fund)
投行里IT永远是BO

-- by 会员 MorningSide (2011/3/14 13:50:58)

Do you know Morgan Stanley PDT? Or Credit Suisse AES?Those are definitey pure tech FO team. MS is now building a desk strategist team mixed with traditional quant and developer/IT people.　

It may be reasonable to think in your way 10 years ago. But for now it is absurd to rｅｆｅｒ　ＩＴ only to database, network or other infrastructure team, as more derivatives become standard, electrical, clearing/central trading.

-- by 会员 youayou (2011/3/14 22:45:59)

顶LS！严重同意。MS的PDT组听说可全是Phd，属于quant trading，他们的头Peter Muller是墙街的传奇人物。最近IB的prop trading要spin off，报道讲他们组要自己独立出去开fund。

aliceedward

我现在就在Columbia读MAFN，感觉还不错，就是有点累。。。也就是说，这是个需要来之前做好学识准备的program，但是哪个program又不是如此呢？= =

班上的同学比lz说得要多些，我们这届招了86个学生，18个part-time，其他都是full-time，中国人（包括港台的）11个吧，学生的情况chopin童鞋都有介绍，我就不赘述了。

不知为何有人说这个program很“水”，我怕是不能苟同。因为我觉得开办这个还是比较有意义的——我们的core curriculum很多都是phd level的课，很能为一些想有analytical framework但不想读phd的人提供便利。当然也有人说我们这个专业很awkward，主要是从页面比较窄，定位也有点尴尬，不是金融也不是数学。这我不反对，但我想说，认真读下来收获还是很多的。

placement嘛，我们似乎金融危机以后就不太理想了，据说是因为risk management需要的新人数目下降了。但是reputation还算不错，而且不论找工作还是进一步求学，也主要靠自己不是么？自己做好规划，大城市总归还是有机会可觅的。

最后祝贺一下lz，希望你能进一个最适合自己的program~

gnroses

多谢多谢啊

另外想请教，金数读出来最对口的工作是risk management 吗，还是algo，high frequence也行？

aliceedward

其实也没什么一定的对口工作啦。主要是看你喜欢什么、能做什么。我知道OR开algorithm trading之类的课的，OR的不少课MAFN也能选，所以还是你自己的想法最重要～

gnroses

嗯，可以自己选课其实很吸引人的

另外网站上写的“Extended Residence Unit $7,332 per semester” 是说可以申请延期毕业还是？

aliceedward

F1签证的据说没有特殊情况不能延期。。。至少我们这届是的

pansy7

请问下，MAFN的录取的同学录取率？平均T是多少？ 有单项要求吗？
有在官网上找，但是只有说100以上，觉得要求说的很模糊呢