prep12 SC 37 再次被with搅晕了呀 求助~

twinsbear

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Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and saw monkeys sleeping on the  
branches, whose arms and legs hang like socks on a clothesline.  
A. saw monkeys sleeping on the branches, whose arms and legs hang  
B. saw monkeys sleeping on the branches, whose arms and legs were hanging    
C. saw monkeys sleeping on the branches, with arms and legs hanging  
D. seen monkeys sleeping on the branches, with arms and legs hanging  
E. seen monkeys sleeping on the branches, whose arms and legs have hung
答案是D. 我选的E 。但我还是觉得with这里的逻辑主语不是visitors嘛 怎么就能对呢？？？恳请赐教。。。
with引导的独立主格结构的逻辑主语不通常是主句的主语嘛 那不就得是visitors吗？？？ 这里逻辑主语本来是想说monkeys的 对吧？另外whose不可以指代前面的monkey么？？
之前翻了很多NN关于with的解释，本来以为还算略懂些了 ，遇到这道题弱弱的我就又晕了
第一次发帖 多多指教

tzhou7

大N，我有个问题阿
（不管其他的错误，）根据常识可以知道branches是不会有arms的，显然这里的whose对monkeys的跳跃修饰是可以的吧！？

twinsbear

恩~继续学习~谢谢指点···

DUKB24

sohere u got the split between with and whose


whose here functions as noun modifier（it should be placed to the noun intended to be modified as close as possible）


with here is adverbial modifier （so it can be placed more flexible than the one above）


The comma +with modifier above modifies the preceding clause. In essence this sentence can be written as two separate sentences:


1. Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and seen monkeys sleeping on the branches.
2. Their arms and legs are hung like socks on a clothesline.


So sentence 2 has been converted into with modifier. This modifier extends the thought of the preceding clause by providing a detail supporting it.

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/9 17:48:12)

(⊙o⊙)哦····太谢谢了~！茅塞顿开！！！ 也就是说with引导的独立主格结构的主语其实可以是它前面从句的主语对吧
而在这个句子里sleeping on the branches作为主句中的定语修饰monkeys 其实与定语从句是可以互换的
看作 Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and seen monkeys (those  are) sleeping on the branches.
所以with这时其实逻辑主语是现在定语从句的主语monkeys. 可是这样理解的吧？ 欢迎猛烈拍砖···

-- by 会员 twinsbear (2012/9/9 18:51:35)

yes，u can understand in this way

with is rather a versatile modifier （under some circumstances it could exist without applying the subject）

a example from prep：


With the cost of wireless service plummeting in the lastyear and mobile phones becoming increasingly common, many people are nowusing their mobile phones to make calls across a wide region at night and onweekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for arelatively small monthly fee.


it could either modify a clause or a noun ，you should use the context to determine

twinsbear

sohere u got the split between with and whose


whose here functions as noun modifier（it should be placed to the noun intended to be modified as close as possible）


with here is adverbial modifier （so it can be placed more flexible than the one above）


The comma +with modifier above modifies the preceding clause. In essence this sentence can be written as two separate sentences:


1. Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and seen monkeys sleeping on the branches.
2. Their arms and legs are hung like socks on a clothesline.


So sentence 2 has been converted into with modifier. This modifier extends the thought of the preceding clause by providing a detail supporting it.

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/9 17:48:12)

(⊙o⊙)哦····太谢谢了~！茅塞顿开！！！ 也就是说with引导的独立主格结构的主语其实可以是它前面从句的主语对吧
而在这个句子里sleeping on the branches作为主句中的定语修饰monkeys 其实与定语从句是可以互换的
看作 Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and seen monkeys (those  are) sleeping on the branches.
所以with这时其实逻辑主语是现在定语从句的主语monkeys. 可是这样理解的吧？ 欢迎猛烈拍砖···

DUKB24

sohere u got the split between with and whose


whose here functions as noun modifier（it should be placed to the noun intended to be modified as close as possible）


with here is adverbial modifier （so it can be placed more flexible than the one above）


The comma +with modifier above modifies the preceding clause. In essence this sentence can be written as two separate sentences:


1. Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and seen monkeys sleeping on the branches.
2. Their arms and legs are hung like socks on a clothesline.


So sentence 2 has been converted into with modifier. This modifier extends the thought of the preceding clause by providing a detail supporting it.

scottshen

我觉得E选项更多的是后面have hung 的时态不对吧，而且with结构放在句前和句后的逻辑主语好像不太一样，和人感觉，错了表拍我