PREP 08 TEST1-191 关于such的问题

zhongshanlh

看了所有的关于这个问题的帖子，还是没有弄明白，因此发帖求助，望各位TX NN解惑191.
The loan companyannounced it would soon lend money to borrowers with proven records of theirnot paying back their loans on time, collectively known as the subprimelending market.
A.    of their not paying back their loans on time,
B.    of not paying back their loans on time, a group
C.    of not paying back their loans on time, with such a group
D.    that they do not pay back their loans on time,    
E.     that they do not payback their loans on time, such a group
OA：B
疑问，关于E中such 用法的错误
CD论坛中所有涉及到这个问题的帖子如下：
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-590940-1-1.html?SearchText=191
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-580267-1-1.html?SearchText=191
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-515227-1-1.html?SearchText=191
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-371566-3-1.html
Ron的解释如下：
as long as you mentionsome specific "X" earlier in the sentence, then "such an X"is fine, yes.
another example:
i have no problem with using a standard geometry textbook; indeed, sucha book is helpful in providing ready-made sets of practice problems.
--> "such a book" is legitimate because the sentence has mentioneda particular book (namely, a standard geometry textbook).
我的疑问：我明白such + noun的话，那么这个noun或者这个noun所指代的事物必须在such之前的句子中出现，但是在这个题目中The loan company announced it would soon lend money to borrowers with proven records 中这个borrowers不就是后面的这个group所来代指的内容么？那么such的使用为啥就不对了啊？？（有些解释说such必须genthat连用就太牵强了吧）
求解惑

NocturnalFreak

我觉得ron都解释的很清楚了 为什么such a group 没有指代就是认为group 不是指的是borrower 而是指的公司借钱给那些信用不好的人形成一个集体 或者说市场
拿前面网友举的例子来看
Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help. 这里的help和aid一一对应 没有歧义 aid help都是一个意思


198. (GWD-1-3) Past assessments of the Brazilian rain forest have used satellite images to tally deforested areas, where farmers and ranchers have clear-cut and burned all the trees, but such work has not addressed either logging, which removes only selected trees, or surface fires that burn down individual trees but do not denude the forest. 这里的work指的是past assessment 没有任何歧义

107.Galileo did not invent the telescope, but on hearing, in 1609, that such an optical instrument had been made, he quickly built his own device from an organ pipe and spectacle lenses. 这里的optical instrument指telescope 完全没有问题

这三个指代在意思上和逻辑上都相当贴切
但原题就很明显不是 如果你非要理解成指代那就变成borrowers=market 我觉得这完全说不通难道不是吗？

CAISIJI

zhongshanlh 发表于 2012-5-11 20:42
我认为从意思层面上区别such a group和a group。至于童鞋说的“a group不是指borrowers，而是指前面的贷款 ...

同意！               

奥兰多铁杆球迷

之前选错是因为没看懂语义，这里a group同位的是那些有这种不还钱的贷款记录的borrowers

iltks

winy 发表于 2012-5-11 18:53
这里的a group不是指borrowers，而是指前面的贷款公司借款给那些不能及时还款的人而形成的市场。所以不能用 ...

同意！               

LUOWEI_

winy 发表于 2012-5-11 18:53
这里的a group不是指borrowers，而是指前面的贷款公司借款给那些不能及时还款的人而形成的市场。所以不能用 ...

Mark一下！               

小灰灰养大鸟

winy 发表于 2012-5-11 18:53
这里的a group不是指borrowers，而是指前面的贷款公司借款给那些不能及时还款的人而形成的市场。所以不能用 ...

同意！               

Jupiter1994

粽子小姐 发表于 2013-11-3 20:31
对这道题B和E中 of 结构 和 that同位语从句结构，我的理解是：

that同位语从句 强调的是 record 的内容，  ...

同意！

starwt

winy 发表于 2012-5-11 18:53
这里的a group不是指borrowers，而是指前面的贷款公司借款给那些不能及时还款的人而形成的市场。所以不能用 ...

同意！               

laizi

粽子小姐 发表于 2013-11-4 00:41
这道题里不是such as举例吧，as 是跟known连用的，known as 是group 的后置定语 与such无关吧。。。 ...

such a group known as和such a group as 意思上没大区别，a group 就是指borrowers。。或许不应该叫举例，像。。可能更容易理解吧，当然这个像不是比较的意思。把such as分开也一样
such fruits as apples不能说such apples as fruits