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作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-9-20 06:05
标题: as well as ?
Can we say?
1. "A, B, as well as C".
(I think it should be "A, B, and C" or "A and B, as well as C")

2. "both A and B, as well as C"

作者: braveMBA    时间: 2003-9-20 06:51
1、我觉得可以。因为AS WELL AS可以充当连词

2、我觉得也可以,似乎没有什么语法错误。
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-9-21 02:11
以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-20 6:05:00的发言:
Can we say?
1. "A, B, as well as C".
(I think it should be "A, B, and C" or "A and B, as well as C")

我认为不允许出现A, B, as well as C的结构,因为as well as不等于AND。as well as的用法是:它后面所接的是前面的若干(包括一个)个东西之后的一个补充,这个补充的东东在地位(性质上)无法与as well as之前的东东构成完美的平行与对称(否则就用AND连接)。如果as well as前面有二个或以上的东东并列,它之前的第一个东东的前面一定要有AND连接。所以A, B, as well as C在逻辑上本身就是有问题的。的确应该改为sbbi所说的"A, B, and C" or "A and B, as well as C"。至于到底是哪一种,要看这三者之间的逻辑关系。
下面是所有阅读与改错中出现的支持上述结论的类似结构。我极为细致地搜遍了40余万字的所有阅读材料,没有找到一个A, B, as well as C的结构。
我突然感到sbbi是一个真正的大师!他在用极其有价值的问题引导我们探索真理!(不会有相互吹捧的嫌疑吧?)
18.    While all states face similar industrial waste problems, the predominating industries and regulatory environment of the states obviously determines the types and amounts of waste produced, as well as the cost of disposal.
(A) all states face similar industrial waste problems, the predominating industries and regulatory environment of the states obviously determines
(B) each state faces a similar industrial waste problem, their predominant industries and regulatory environment obviously determine
(C) all states face a similar industrial waste problem, their predominating industries and regulatory environment obviously determines
(D) each state faces similar industrial waste problems, the predominant industries and regulatory environment of each state obviously determines
(E) all states face similar industrial waste problems, the predominant industries and the regulatory environment of each state obviously determine

4.    Which one of the following, if true, would most effectively undermine the author’s argument?
(A) Although the number of people killed by lightning on golf courses each year is very small, the total number of lightning fatalities is many times greater.
(B) Electric blenders are among the safest household appliances; were the author to compare fatalities from electrical appliances in general, she would get a much higher figure.
(C) Most people would rather take their chances with blenders and golf games than with grizzly bears.
(D) Bears in general—including black, brown, and cinnamon bears, as well as grizzly bears—kill many more people than do electric blenders.
(E) Statistics show that the number of times people use electric blenders each year exceeds the number of times people play golf each year, which in turn far exceeds the number of contacts people have with grizzly bears each year.

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Maps made by non-Native Americans to depict Native American land tenure, resources and population distributions appeared almost as early as Europeans’ first encounters with Native Americans and took many form: missionaries’ field sketches, explorers’ drawings, and surveyors’ maps, as well as maps rendered in connection with treaties involving land transfers.

Thus our current cartographic record relating to Native American tribes and their migrations and cultural features, as well as territoriality and contemporary trust lands, reflects the origins of the data, the mixed purposes for which the maps have been prepared, and changes both in United States government policy and in non-Native Americans’ attitudes toward an understanding of Native Americans.

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In particular, his actos contain the same assortment of semiallegorical characters and the same blend of music, chorus, and dialogue found in some of the agitprop pieces, as well as the same fierce spirit of social and political critique.

Studies directed at describing aggressive behavior and the situations that elicit it, as well as the social mechanisms that control it, were therefore among the first investigations of monkeys’ social behavior.

Among the factors that constrain the competitiveness of integrated producers are excessive labor, energy, and capital costs, as well as manufacturing inflexibility.

Taking a slightly different approach, other scholars have adopted a technique that requires reading complete transcripts of all sex discrimination cases litigated during a certain time period to identify variables such as the nature of the allegedly illegal conduct, the consequences for employers, and the nature of the remedy, as well as the factors that contributed to the verdict and the kind of evidence necessary for the plaintiff to prevail.











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作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-9-21 02:34
gemj兄讲得我都飘起来了.
我极其钦佩GEMJ兄的勤奋严谨,及真诚友爱.GEMJ兄成功只是早与晚的问题.甚至去读MBA都是浪费人才,真应该先拿几个PHD.(决不是吹捧,就算吹捧也是由衷吹捧)

由于我9/30考试,不能帮班主们回答问题,只能不停的问...
有时自己都觉得自己挺烦的.感谢大家在我的问题上花这么多工夫.

还有那"BOTH A AND B, AS WELL AS C"也应是对的了?


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作者: braveMBA    时间: 2003-9-21 02:55
好,好斑竹。
作者: fyhllj    时间: 2003-9-21 05:18
GEMJ 治学严谨,应该去拿个PHD。
作者: xianwharton    时间: 2003-9-21 14:58
同意gmej兄的说法,记得考toefl时沙老师说过as well as和and 的并列问题,即A ,B,C,and D,as well as E,同志们还可看看og 197的解释。
作者: njsjfr    时间: 2003-9-21 22:30
do you guys think ETS has some preference between "and" &"as well as" when it set tricky questions?
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-9-21 22:44
I saw 'both a and b, as well as c" in september jj.
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-9-23 11:15
再来一个例子,A中的as well as不如正确答案D中的and好。尽管A可以用其他的办法排除。看来这的确是ETS的考点啊。多加小心!
25. Europe’s travel industry is suffering as a result of a sluggish economy, a stretch of bad weather, as well as the chilling effects of terrorist activity that is persistent.
(A) as well as the chilling effects of terrorist activity that is persistent
(B) and the chilling effect of terrorist activity that is persistent
(C) but persistent terrorist activity has had a chilling effect too
(D) and the chilling effects of persistent terrorist
(E) as well as the chilling effects of terrorist activity that persists



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作者: gemj    时间: 2003-9-23 11:17
以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-21 22:44:00的发言:
I saw 'both a and b, as well as c" in september jj.

我又查了好多的资料,没有找到 “both A and B, as well as C”的结构,因此我觉得在写作时最好不要用这样的结构,这样的结构完全可以用“A and B, as well as C”代替。如果在改错中出现了这样的结构,先考虑别的。
作者: mzyzhu    时间: 2003-9-23 20:01
以下是引用gemj在2003-9-23 11:17:00的发言:“A and B, as well as C”代替。


完全赞同该中表达:再加一例ETS专考and 和as well as的用法:
885/250-81:句型 and和as well as的区别。allows voters to propose and pass laws, as well as to repeal them
作者: hodgechen    时间: 2003-11-23 23:14
正要问这个问题,检个现成儿,感谢楼上所有人
作者: hodgechen    时间: 2003-11-23 23:45
不敢挑战权威,但我有自己的理解——多重并列说:

1、我和你————————和
我以及你————————以及

只有一对,是  我和你
还有一对,是阿三和啊四,

上面两组再并列, 说成我和你    和   阿三和啊四  也成
是不是                      我和你    以及啊三和啊四  更好?

2、所以,我倾向首选A and B,  当没有这种形式再选A as well as B,这也恰恰是楼上举的OG 197,中for women as well as for men的实证。

3、对于这个例子allows voters to propose and pass laws, as well as to repeal them
我也是这样的理解,尽管或许可以用to propose , pass laws, and repeal them
                                     或者to propose, to  pass laws, and to repeal them
如果没有原句子and  , as well as我们就从另两个里挑一个了,但现在有了就要坚持,

因为propose  ,pass是近似POSITIVE的概念,而repeal 则四NEGATIVE的概念,
用AND 连接褒意的PROPOSE ,PASS,再用第二重并列AS WELL AS将贬义的REPEAL与前面的褒义AND 词组连接,这样是否很完美哪,

就是  阿一和阿二   以及 阿三和阿四。

4,至于both A and B, as well as C,我不知道对错,但考试中没有比她更好的我就用,
毕竟我相信,英语跟汉语一样,不会让丰富的几千年语言表达只限定在 A, B, and C

就好象
我和你,  啊三和阿四    亦然
现代汉语及少用,但不是错的。
同样“罕见但正确”的例子是XDF补充材料的13题目, For all,这个极其罕见的尽管(=in spite of )是正确的。

5、套用众人皆知的观点, 保持正确元素运用的基础,给语言以丰富、鲜活、轻盈、灵动的使用是她亘古不化的真理。

6、等我发了大财,就编本字典,只两条:
我走——     先,
谢谢——我鼻涕都留下的     说,

是汉语使用的新境界





作者: hodgechen    时间: 2003-11-23 23:50
鼓掌,楼上谁家孩子,说的真好,有出息,
看聪明的,就是使坏也管保比一般人更坏。





玩够了,回去看书
作者: luxinwinter    时间: 2004-12-29 14:52
ding
作者: ethyl    时间: 2005-5-22 00:18

好像不用顶,也置顶了

郁闷ing


作者: 番茄笑了    时间: 2005-5-26 02:43

个人愚见!


ETS在“AND”和"as well as"之间有没有偏爱哪一个我不知道。但是我觉得到底是用and更好,还是用as well as更好是要看句子逻辑意思的!就像楼上的人说过的,as well as和and的意思不一样。a and b说明,a和b完全并列。如果是a as well as b的话,a 和 b不是并列的。a是主角b只是配角。所以如果句子的意思是要列举几个完全并列的东西时,我们应该用a, b, and c 如果不并列的时候就用a and b, as well as c。这里ab并列,c是附加的。


作者: oookk    时间: 2005-6-3 15:51
DING
作者: quiny    时间: 2005-6-29 15:26

感谢!



作者: carmenleaf    时间: 2005-8-18 15:56

同意番茄笑了的看法


作者: 三脚猫    时间: 2005-10-30 16:20

2.     The Federalist papers, a strong defense of the United States Constitution and important as a body of work in political science as well, represents the handiwork of three different authors.


(A) and important as a body of work in political science as well, represents


(B) as well as an important body of work in political science, represent


(C) and also a body of work of importance in political science is representing


(D) an important body of work in political science and has been representative ofB


(E) and as political science an important body of work too, represent


如果E中的as改为in,那是不是宣E更好


作者: 北溟鱼    时间: 2005-10-30 16:46

受教了


作者: RayBear    时间: 2006-3-24 20:36
hao tie
作者: roselee0817    时间: 2006-3-24 22:41
周星星真好玩!
作者: numberunique    时间: 2006-3-28 21:07

3. 如果as well as 前面是动词不定式,那么其后的动词也是不定式,但to要省略。例如:


You cannot expect her to do the housework as well as look after the children.


4. 由as well as 连接的复合主语并不影响谓语动词的数。例如:


Helen as well as I is eager to see the performance.


海伦和我一样急于要看演出。


I as well as they am ready to help you. 不仅他们愿意帮助你,我也愿意帮助



6. as well as 用于肯定结构和否定结构中,其意义不同。as well as 和not搭配使用,as well as 位于not前时,两者均否定;位于not后时,否定前者,肯定后者。例如:


George, as well as his brother, has gone abroad.


乔治和他兄弟一样都出国了。


George hasn”t gone abroad as well as his brother.


乔治并没有和他兄弟一样出国去。(他兄弟一人出国)


George, as well as his brother, hasn”t gone abroad.


乔治和他兄弟都没有出国。


7. as well as 在意义上通常强调前者,而not only …but also在意义上则强调后者。例如:


He”s got a car as well as a motorbike.


他不但有一辆摩托车,而且有一辆小汽车。


(= He”s got not only a motorbike but also a car. )


8. 注意as well as 有时会引起歧义句。例如:


He can speak french as well as English.


(1)他会说英语,也会说法语。


(2)他说法语能说得像英语一样好。(…as well as he speaks English)


作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-5-23 09:41

好贴


作者: livary    时间: 2006-6-10 19:32
以下是引用三脚猫在2005-10-30 16:20:00的发言:

2.     The Federalist
                
papers, a strong defense of the United States Constitution and important as a body of work in political science as well, represents the handiwork of three different authors.

(A) and important as a body of work in political science as well, represents

(B) as well as an important body of work in political science, represent

(C) and also a body of work of importance in political science is representing

(D) an important body of work in political science and has been representative ofB

(E) and as political science an important body of work too, represent

如果E中的as改为in,那是不是宣E更好

不是的, 这里是a strong defense of ..和an important body of ..并列作同位语, 改了in也没用.


作者: livary    时间: 2006-6-10 19:37

单数GG对as well as的总结真好啊!

不过我觉得ETS不会考这么细的, 最多就是在平行结构中出现as well as.


作者: joshcn2006    时间: 2006-12-5 00:08
以下是引用numberunique在2006-3-28 21:07:00的发言:

3. 如果as well as 前面是动词不定式,那么其后的动词也是不定式,但to要省略。例如:

You cannot expect her to do the housework as well as look after the children.

4. 由as well as 连接的复合主语并不影响谓语动词的数。例如:

Helen as well as I is eager to see the performance.

海伦和我一样急于要看演出。

I as well as they am ready to help you. 不仅他们愿意帮助你,我也愿意帮助

6. as well as 用于肯定结构和否定结构中,其意义不同。as well as 和not搭配使用,as well as 位于not前时,两者均否定;位于not后时,否定前者,肯定后者。例如:

George, as well as his brother, has gone abroad.

乔治和他兄弟一样都出国了。

George hasn”t gone abroad as well as his brother.

乔治并没有和他兄弟一样出国去。(他兄弟一人出国)

George, as well as his brother, hasn”t gone abroad.

乔治和他兄弟都没有出国。

7. as well as 在意义上通常强调前者,而not only …but also在意义上则强调后者。例如:

He”s got a car as well as a motorbike.

他不但有一辆摩托车,而且有一辆小汽车。

(= He”s got not only a motorbike but also a car. )

8. 注意as well as 有时会引起歧义句。例如:

He can speak french as well as English.

(1)他会说英语,也会说法语。

(2)他说法语能说得像英语一样好。(…as well as he speaks English)

佩服!功夫下到如此地步!
作者: supermary    时间: 2007-1-26 12:14
我在前人的脚步后总结一下可以么?
A and B, 并列,动词一般从A and B;
A,as well as B,强调前者,补充一下B的情况,动词从A;
not only A, but also B, 两者并列但是强调后者,动词一般从B。



作者: passer_by    时间: 2008-5-5 17:50
瞻仰一个,一语惊醒梦中人
作者: 热带鱼    时间: 2008-12-17 22:03
请教大家,这道GWD的题目,偶这样分析对不对,B中的as well as 有没有错啊?谢谢啦
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Turning away from literary realism to
write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became
the first woman and was also the first Swedish
writer to win
the Nobel Prize for Literature.


    

 


    
  1. Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories
         about the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf
         was the novelist who became the first woman and
         was also the first Swedish
    writer to win
  2. She turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic
         stories about the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, and novelist Selma
         Lagerlöf in 1909 became the first woman as well
         as
    the first Swedish writer that
                    
    won
  3. Selma Lagerlöf was a novelist who turned away from literary
         realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape of
         northern Sweden,
         and in 1909 she became the first woman in
         addition to
    the first Swedish writer winning
  4. A novelist who turned
         away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant
         life and landscape of northern Sweden, Selma Lagerlöf became in 1909 the first woman and
         also the first Swedish writer to win
  5. As a novelist, Selma Lagerlöf turned away from literary realism
         and wrote romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape of
         northern Sweden,
         in 1909 becoming the first woman and also the first Swedish writer that
         won

    

   Answer:


    

Parallelism


    

The
first woman and the first Swedish,
排除ABC


    

并列连词And 优于as well as, in addition


    

定语从句修饰
        
当先行词带有最高级时,其后的关系代词通常用thatBE that 可以接受,但没有D的不定式简洁


    

作者: guting109    时间: 2008-12-17 23:13
太好了 正在找这个贴
作者: 热带鱼    时间: 2008-12-17 23:53
补充一点,定语从句引导词,如果前行词是人的话,那么引导词可有两种选择:who或that。但GMAT中要求选择who不用that。
这样的话,BE排除

作者: zxkingsey    时间: 2010-1-28 19:53
gemj太太太太太太太佩服你了
向你学习
作者: myungryong    时间: 2010-9-7 21:47
好贴!! 对as well as 疑惑全都解除了

gemj真是太感谢你了~~~!!
作者: jianglindenise    时间: 2011-3-6 12:01
正在找as well as的用法~~就看到了~

感谢各位大牛~~
作者: cptiger    时间: 2011-3-13 00:51
感觉前人牛人太多,最近两年的NN发言太少
作者: zoexixi    时间: 2011-12-15 01:00
CD的好处不仅在于解惑,还在于深刻认识什么叫牛人
作者: boa0711    时间: 2012-5-4 10:39
总结了前人关于as well as的用法。我将它们结合自己的总结一起弄了一下。
关于and和as well as的比较
首先,先看as well as逻辑上的分析。
(1)一般用于结构A and B,as well as C.其中,C与A,B不在一个层次上并列。C属于附属。而这个结构翻译成中文可以很好地理解成:A和B,以及C.
例如:allows voters to propose and pass laws, as well as to repeal them。其中propose和pass是一个层面,repeal是附属了。
所以,当做题的时候,原文中如果有A and B就不能随意改成A as well as B.
如OG46题中
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.
(B) much of the local artisans’creative energy was expendedon the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
(C) much of the local artisans’creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
(D) creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans’creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them
(E) the creation of Buddha images accounted for much of the local artisans’creative energy as well as construction and decoration of the temples that enshrined them
这里的C选项就要排除掉了,因为原文中是and,与as well as的并列程度不一样。所以,不能随意替换。
(2)as well as 用于肯定结构和否定结构中,其意义不同。as well as 和not搭配使用,as well as 位于not前时,两者均否定;位于not后时,否定前者,肯定后者。例如:
George, as well as his brother, has gone abroad.
乔治和他兄弟一样都出国了。
George hasn”t gone abroad as well as his brother.
乔治并没有和他兄弟一样出国去。(他兄弟一人出国)
George, as well as his brother, hasn”t gone abroad.
乔治和他兄弟都没有出国。
(3)as well as 在意义上通常强调前者,而not only …but also在意义上则强调后者。例如:
He”s got a car as well as a motorbike.
他不但有一辆摩托车,而且有一辆小汽车。
(= He”s got not only a motorbike but also a car. )

关于as well as的语法结构问题分析
(1)As well as也有自己的基本使用句型。
A did one thing, as well as doing another thing.(prep1-90)
例:The organization gives help and support to people in need,as well as raising money for local charities.
(2)如果as well as 前面是动词不定式,那么其后的动词也是不定式,但to要省略。例如:
You cannot expect her to do the housework as well as look after the children.
(3) 由as well as 连接的复合主语并不影响谓语动词的数。例如:
Helen as well as I is eager to see the performance.
海伦和我一样急于要看演出
I as well as they am ready to help you. 不仅他们愿意帮助你,我也愿意帮助

欢迎各位参考指正!
作者: rylstar01    时间: 2013-3-15 23:51
前辈太给力了,即深入也不乏欢乐。
谢谢。
作者: hzasian    时间: 2013-9-16 12:01
As well as vs. and
http://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/bien-well/fra-eng/grammaire-grammar/ainsi-and-eng.html
来自加拿大政府的网站的英语学习区,应该比较权威,基本如前面所说,as well as只能用于连接两者,并且语义重点在前者;若要用于三者或以上,要在前面加and,并将前面用and连接的东西视为一个整体和语义的重点,如:The service was prompt and courteous as well as efficient. [The emphasis is on “prompt and courteous”.]。
作者: Smilingbunny    时间: 2016-11-27 00:56
感谢分享!               
作者: 小小明噢耶    时间: 2019-8-17 21:25
'both a and b, as well as c OG19里说是错误的
作者: lisa001    时间: 2019-8-20 13:21
sbbi 发表于 2003-9-20 06:05
Can we say?1. "A, B, as well as C". (I think it should be "A, B, and C" or "A and B, as well as C")2 ...

可以啊,只是c的重要性比A、B要次之。




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