open to discuss：the same as & the same that

lemonsong · 发表于 2013-2-5 18:00:35

今天做一道语法题，涉及到the same that是否可以用。

16. GWD30-Q16:

Researchers are using computer images to help surgeonsplan difficult operations and to develop programs that will work for doctors and nurses in the same way that flight simulators dofor pilots, letting medical personnel practice their techniques and test their reflexes before they ever see a patient.

plan difficult operations and to develop programs that will work for doctors and nurses in the same way that flight simulators do
plan difficult operations and develop programs to work for doctors and nurses the same way as with flight simulators
to plan difficult operations and to develop programs that will work for doctors and nurses like flight simulators
plan difficult operations and in developing programs to work for doctors and nurses the same way as flight simulators
to plan difficult operations and developing programs that will work for doctors and nurses like flight simulators do

OA:A

查了下字典，找到几个例句：
He winked at her and she know he was thinking the same thing that she was.
She was wearing the same dress that I had on.
Breathing such polluted air is the quivalent of(=has the same effect as) smoking ten cigarettes a day.
I bought the same car as yours.
I think the same as you do about this.
所以，不知道关于the same that和the same as的区别是否可以总结如下：
1、the same+词+that+句子
2、the same+词+as+词（省略谓语动词时）/句子/状语/介词短语
3、the same as+句子
用法1中的that是做关系代词引导定从的用法。
用法2中的as就是as在比较中的各种用法。

另外在og13中有如下the same的句子：
32. Galileo was convinced that natural phenomena, as manifestations of the laws of physics, would appear the same to someone on the deck of a ship moving smoothly and uniformly through the water as to a person standing on land.
the same to…as to……平行比较
44. The plot of the Bostonians centres on the rivalry that develops between Olive Chancellor, an active feminist, and Basil Ransom, her charming and cynical cousin, when they find themselves drawn to the same radiant young woman whose talent for public speaking has won her ardent following.
由于young woman 和 talent for public speaking has won her ardent following.关系不同，用了whose而不是that
89. Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile Delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
at the same time 短语
107. While the costs of running nuclear plants is about the same as for other types of power plants, the fixed costs that stem from building nuclear plants make the electricity they generate more expensive.
for other types of power plants省略了系动词
125. Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples as it did in 1910.
the same修饰amount，无关

另外在http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-256378-2-1.html中找到了aeoluseros 的讲解：

Researchers are using computer images to help surgeons plan difficult operations and to develop programs that will work for doctors and nurses in the same way that flight simulators do for pilots, letting medical personnel practice their techniques and test their reflexes before they ever see a patient.

plan difficult operations and to develop programs that will work for doctors and nurses in the same way that flight simulators doplan difficult operations and develop programs to work for doctors and nurses the same way as with flight simulatorsto plan difficult operations and to develop programs that will work for doctors and nurses like flight simulatorsplan difficult operations and in developing programs to work for doctors and nurses the same way as flight simulatorsto plan difficult operations and developing programs that will work for doctors and nurses like flight simulators do
补充一下之前总结的the same as和the same that在GMAT考试中的区别：1）如果as/that后面的句子出现倒装或是省略，使用the same as；2）如果比较对象是抽象名词，用the same as；3）如果比较对象是way或是year后面的句子没有倒装或是省略，用the same that；4）如果比较对象是具体名词，且在后面的定语从句中做宾语的话，用The same…that；
-- by 会员 Liu_leaf (2009/7/2 18:19:00)

这个现象是因为the same…as结构很特殊，能够imply动词（即省略动词，而不写出），as后面的东东也能倒装。
但是不一定as后面必须倒装，因为比较结构里连词as后面可以用正常语序：
例如5（prep1-92）：Scientists have found new evidence that people initially register emotions such as sadness or anger in much the same way as they experience heartburn--by monitoring what's going on within their bodies.
例如6（prep2-118）：Research has shown that when speaking, individuals who have been blind from birth and have thus never seen anyone gesture nonetheless make hand motions just as frequently and in the same way as sighted people do, and that they will gesture even when conversing with another blind person.

麻烦大家做题的时候看看这个决定用that还是as对不对……

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