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mia113 · 发表于 2011-7-22 22:33:55

110. Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of The
Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen
and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his
reputation as a labor leader.
A. Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of The
Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler
Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later
make his reputation as a labor leader.
A可以直接通过逻辑主语就排除了·
看OG解释的时候·突然发现了一个初中的知识点：
the owner and editor 记得如果只有一个the的话表示一个人，即使owner又是editor 谓语应该用单数
the owner and the editor才是不同的两个人。
但是OG对该知识点的解释实在是挺费解的·不是特别懂它的意思
Th e use of the
singular owner and editor is puzzling: did one
journalist own and the other edit? Or did they
jointly own and edit?
不知道为什么会造成这样的歧义·
麻烦各位了····

mia113 · 发表于 2011-7-24 11:50:32

自己顶顶·····

不倒翁要杀鸡 · 发表于 2011-7-27 02:44:26

同问！

不倒翁要杀鸡 · 发表于 2011-7-27 02:46:17

C. Published in Harlem, The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.

OG解释说the verbs indicate that both journalists played both roles;

不是很懂啊！
求教NN

bitieming · 发表于 2011-7-27 08:38:53

原话的意思是，owner和editor的角色是由两个年轻人扮演的，即有可能2个人都既是owner又是editor，或者有一个人两种角色都有另外一个人只有一个角色，这两种情况都可以用这种表述；
如果要表达两人分别担任不同角色，就应该用the..and the..的表述方法。

mia113 · 发表于 2011-7-27 21:30:29

原话的意思是，owner和editor的角色是由两个年轻人扮演的，即有可能2个人都既是owner又是editor，或者有一个人两种角色都有另外一个人只有一个角色，这两种情况都可以用这种表述；
如果要表达两人分别担任不同角色，就应该用the..and the..的表述方法。

-- by 会员 bitieming (2011/7/27 8:38:53)

这跟我们高中学的不是很一样吖··
以前是the owner and editor是指同一个人
如果是两个人的话还有这种歧义吖？

bitieming · 发表于 2011-7-27 21:42:56

OG的解释大概就是这个意思吧，我又想了想，即使用the..and the..的表达也无法摆脱歧义

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