求讨论：OG13 118关于except for的用法的疑惑

sammilulu · 发表于 2013-7-30 16:51:08

file://localhost/Users/ryanciara/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/msoclip/0/clip_image002.png118.Mauritius was a British colony for almost 200 years, exceptingfor the domains of administration and teaching, the English language wasnever really spoken on the island.

(A) excepting for

(B) except in

(C) but except in

(D) but excepting for

(E) with theexception of

OG给出的解释是except for不是正确的idiom；我觉得不能这么解释。except for的用法还是有的，比如
1.Remove everything from the screen except for your file.

2.All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.

但真正的错误应当是except for用于同类事物间，比如例句中everything on the screen 和 your file； curshed cars 和 cars；原题中Mauritius 和domains显然不是同类，所以用except for是不对的； domains指领域，所以介词应当用in，except in。

不知这样解对不对？求讨论。

sammilulu · 发表于 2013-11-12 15:19:10

刷了几遍OG和prep后，再回来看这题，其实真的不用去纠结到底except怎么搭配表达什么意思。OG上说的很明白，不是idiom的正确用法，其实就是 domains 的介词搭配就应该是in，就这么简单。这个Ron的回复中的是一致的。

所以再次证明了SC这个部分，随着做题的深入，是会产生质变的。质变到位了，就会出现大N们一直推崇的语意解题。但这一**的过程是不可避免的。

bejamin1111 · 发表于 2013-7-30 17:30:21

对
账号很强大嘛。03年注册

lhz910216 · 发表于 2013-7-30 17:32:22

跟lz观点一样啊~

gmf · 发表于 2013-7-30 17:33:18

见9楼：http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-184544-1-1.html

这样一道道问，等待回复需要很长时间。给楼主推荐个方法，快速查询前辈们交流贴——提高效率！！

在百度搜索栏输入：（题目的关键句）Mauritius was a British colony for almost + site:forum.chasedream.com （“+”不需要的，为了让你看清楚些）

百度会在CD中搜索含有“Mauritius was a British colony for almost”的帖子。

sammilulu · 发表于 2013-7-30 18:31:24

gmf 发表于 2013-7-30 17:33
见9楼：http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-184544-1-1.html

这样一道道问，等待回复需要很长时间。给楼 ...

谢谢指点！

xunzlyx · 发表于 2013-8-23 19:30:25

Ron神的解释，摘录如下：

in most cases, though, except + preposition is not actually an idiomatic construction at all. what you're seeing is the use of the word "except" - in isolation - followed by a preposition that goes with whatever words follow.

it's not really "except in" - in other words, the "in" doesn't really belong with the "except" here.

the "except" construction is basically just "except X, Y".
the "in" belongs idiomatically with "the domains". i.e., the only preposition that's acceptable with "the domains" is "in"; it's not really an issue of "except" at all.

for instance:
she's never been happy in a relationship, except with james.
except on saturdays, the store is open until 9 p.m.

note these examples: in each, the preposition is determined by the idioms of the FOLLOWING noun, not the "except".
same here.

xunzlyx · 发表于 2013-8-23 19:35:05

我看到以前的帖子说
except用于同类
except for用于不同类
刚好和楼主说的相反

没有查字典，不知道哪种说法正确。

BTW，楼主账号真强大！！！

驾六龙乘风而起 · 发表于 2013-11-11 18:49:37

except for 用于非同类事物 except 是同一事物的总体除去一部分
看原句
M是个殖民地，除了管理和教学，英语从没被说过，
这里expect的是说没说英语，而不是M和D
所以用的是except

驾六龙乘风而起 · 发表于 2013-11-11 18:51:01

除此之外 except 还有个不定式用法
except 加不定式如果except前有do的某种形式，则except后的不定式一般不带to，反之必须带to

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