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发表于 2004-8-11 03:26:00 | 只看该作者

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187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.


(A) Americans were killed as


(B) Americans were killed than


(C) Americans were killed than those who


(D) more Americans were killed as there


(E) more Americans were killed as those who


and in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion. In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the idea of more.


请问:为什么说those who is a wordy intrusion?AS…AS结构是否要求完全平行,也就是说times as many Americans were killed as,因为前面是句子,所以第二个AS后面也要跟个句子, . In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the idea of more.再问一下这个:有点疑惑,我觉得OGX times more than(OG199)有作为正确答案出现,为什么说它REDUNDANT

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发表于 2006-8-12 02:38:00 | 只看该作者

In one of the battles, 1862, many American were killed four times as many as (those) would later be killed on the D-Day.

为了强调人数的众多,将four times表示倍数的词放到了前面。


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沙发
发表于 2004-8-11 03:49:00 | 只看该作者

先回答你最后一个问题:OG199中的用法和OG187中的X TIMES用法不一样.

187: FOUR TIMES AS MANY AS....
199: AN AREA 100 TIMES GREATER THAN...

两个都对.但是:

FOUR TIMES AS MANY ... THAN和FOUR TIMES AS MANY MORE... 和 100 TIMES THE AREA 都是错的.

要分清句子结构.

板凳
发表于 2004-8-11 09:21:00 | 只看该作者

1. As many ... as中的第二个as可以做代词, 因此后面的those who就wordy

2. as many ...as已经表达了"more"的意思, 所以不能加这类程度副词了

地板
 楼主| 发表于 2004-8-14 06:21:00 | 只看该作者
明白了,谢谢
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发表于 2005-6-29 14:01:00 | 只看该作者

我还是觉得as many as后面直接接 would...有些怪怪的,因为毕竟as前是americans

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发表于 2005-9-5 11:47:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用horsefish在2004-8-11 9:21:00的发言:

1. As many ... as中的第二个as可以做代词, 因此后面的those who就wordy


2. as many ...as已经表达了"more"的意思, 所以不能加这类程度副词了


as many as是和...一样多,而more是比。。。多,怎么能说意思一样呢?

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发表于 2005-9-8 10:58:00 | 只看该作者

既然还没有人回答偶的问题,就自己顶一个吧。


og187解释是说In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the idea of more.应该是这样理解吧:“四倍于和。。。一样多”=“大于”


这样还比较好理解。


但是新问题又出现了。


og239


Neither A nor B produces the idiomatic phrase "... as many as, or more than, 250 ..."--a phrase that would be needlessly wordy here.


就不明白为什么是wordy了


把题目贴一下


Organized in 1966 by the Fish and Wildlife Service, the Breeding Bird Survey uses annual roadside counts along established routes for monitoring of population changes of as many as. or of more than 250 bird species, including 180 songbirds.
(A) for monitoring of population changes of as many as, or of
(B) to monitor population changes of as many, or


(C) to monitor changes in the populations of


239正确答案是c

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发表于 2005-10-19 11:44:00 | 只看该作者

as many as = more than.


so in the example you sited, C is the correct answer.

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发表于 2006-3-27 10:30:00 | 只看该作者

看完了所有的讨论,我还是不明白。。。是一点思路都没有的那种。。。


187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.


(A) Americans were killed as


(B) Americans were killed than


(C) Americans were killed than those who


(D) more Americans were killed as thereA


(E) more Americans were killed as those who



答案倒是容易选出,可是怎么到底怎么来看这句话呢?



four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.


请问这句话哪个是主语呀? 是four times as many Americans were killed as 吗?好奇怪!


有两种说法:一是as能作代词,二是as后面有省略。


那么不管哪种说法,如果有明白的xdjm能不能把被代替的部分补到句子里,或者把省略的部分补到句子里给我讲讲,让我明白这句子到底是怎么回事,真的感谢!


在线等待答案。。。谢谢了!:)

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发表于 2006-6-23 12:57:00 | 只看该作者

我的理解:

four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day  ==> four times as many Americans as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day were killed: 画线部分是主语, were kill 是谓语.

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