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作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 01:16
标题: 关于申请美国博士的诸多的问题

本人现在瑞典读Master,major in industrial and financial economics,GPA不高(硕士成绩目前每门都是遗憾的差1,2分high pass),没有paper,想申请50-100的美国大学的Phd,,托福596(TWE5.0),会努力把GMAT考到700以上.


1.想转专业,读general management或marketing方面的Phd,请问利弊如何?不行读Finance也行,


2.以以上条件,50-100学校申请到Stipend,tuition waiver的机会大概有多大?


先谢谢大家的回复


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作者: Brettthompson    时间: 2005-3-19 01:35

There are more finance applicants each year than any other programs. It is likely to be more competitive. I do think you need to retake your TOEFL. Please also note that your statement and letters may be more important than other materials.


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 01:56

谢谢回复!

您的意思是说申请其他专业反而比finance的机会大些了?

那拿stipend和tutition fee waiver的几率如何呢?

托福是会再考的了,不过新托福真的没什么底啊.


作者: Brettthompson    时间: 2005-3-19 03:41

I mean if you only look at their numbers, there are actually more finance applicants than management or marketing. Finace is normally regarded as one of the most competitive majors for b-school applications.

For top b-school programs, if they offer you admission, you will get full aid. But some third or fourth tier schools may sometimes offer admission only if you are not on the top of their list. In general, if you are admitted to a b-school Ph. D. program, your chance of getting full aid is good.


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 05:11

thx for your kind answers.Hope to get more instructions from you.


anyway,if I took a GMAT around 700 and TOEFL around 600, the other conditions don't change,is there a great chance for me to be admitted in a Phd programme by 50-100 ranking U.S Business school?You know,If the chance is few,I would not like to begin the process because I have not been young anymore.


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作者: mablechen    时间: 2005-3-19 05:32

我觉得还是很有可能的。你的GPA很低么?个人觉得如果3.0以下录取的可能性很小

如果你gpa不是很低,达到GMAT around 700 and TOEFL around 600,50-100得学校有可能,你还可以申请些100后的垫底


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 05:44

先谢谢mablechen,

我不知道我的GPA到底是多少,因为本科和现在的硕士都不是4.0制.本科以学时算,总平均分在82点几左右,应该大于3.0.现在的硕士,目前每门课都差一到三分不等得到high pass(总分的75%算hp),应该没有3.0.

我想如果把GMAT和TOFEL尽量弄高,通过Essays和RL弥补,也许还有点希望,但心里并没有把握,是否垮专业申请更是没底.所以想请前辈和各位朋友指点啊.


作者: mablechen    时间: 2005-3-19 05:56

如果你喜欢marketing, 就申请试一试,不是很清楚学校可不可以跨系,如果没有特别说明,应该是可以的!关于这个等你确定学校后,同学校联系

你可以marketing, finance都申请,然后再选择。 m录取的名额少些,竞争相对来说不是那么强, f现在很热门,名额多,申请的人也多。


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 06:47

再次谢谢mablechen

总之还是想试一试.虽然以我的条件看起来是mission impossible.刚才还在2004成功MBA申请访谈里看到还是有GPA低于3.0被超级牛校MBA录取的,算是给自己来了点阿Q吧.

希望以后能得到你们更多的指点和帮助,万分感谢


作者: superstorm    时间: 2005-3-19 07:48

作者: superstorm    时间: 2005-3-19 07:54
MBA is different from PhD aplication.  Maybe my words are too stright.  I do not think there is a high probability to get admission from top 50-100 for you.  I am sorry for my strightness.  But I am honesty.
作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 16:47
it's okay,I know this,thanks.
作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-19 16:48

Dear Brettthompson:

Thanks for your reply,About the GMAT and TOEFL,it sounds like a question of critical reasonning.They are essential conditions but not sufficient ones,right?

I will try to apply for non-finance majors,especially in Marketing.Is it good to take the speciality ranking of U.S News as a referrence?Because my background isn't competitive,should I not apply for the u. before 10th in speciality ranking?

I will be very appreciated of your kind help


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-20 01:20
怎么没有同志再帮帮我啊?

I will try to apply for non-finance majors,especially in Marketing.Is it good to take the speciality ranking of U.S News as a referrence?Because my background isn't competitive,should I not apply for the b-school before 10th in speciality ranking?


作者: free_rabbit    时间: 2005-3-20 04:19

Frankly, I don't want to discourage you. But I would like to tell you something I heard from some PhD program advisors.

Besides all the discussion above, you may have a big weakness: you are not currently in USA.

In fact, for many phd programs in USA, it is too hard for a Chinese students to get admitted directly from China or other countries, because you would have high risk in getting visa, and you are taken granted that your English is not so good. These two points would not published in the public websites, but you can get the similiar information if you talk with some PhD students and advisors in USA.

Secondly, because the job market for international PhD graduates rank as: Accounting, Finance, MIS, Marketing, Business, so it seems the competition in finance major is tougher than others. So please consider it.

Unless you are a big cow, otherwise, you must have difficulties in getting admission in US B-school PhD program in Finance, so I suggest you to apply a good portfolio, not only including the top 100.

Certainly, I am not a big cow, so I just did what I can do best. Good luck, buddy:-)


作者: catree    时间: 2005-3-20 05:58

If you interested in a specific area, do not easily give it up just due to the high competition in admission. These should be a lot of way to solve this problem. But if you change your study area, in this case, you will change you career focus. Well, if you have not got high GPA, you could apply for the B-school ranking at 50-150.

Everything just depends on your furture life and carrer plan, and welcome to discuss about this issue.


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-20 06:19

I am very appreciated all of your kind helps.This makes me feel warm when I am in such a lonely and boring country currently.I will take a full consideration on your words and think about my future.Anyhow,thank you so much.


作者: larry98    时间: 2005-3-20 06:46

Unless you will got much higher T&G scores, and will have very strong rec. letters from those U.S degree holders, and plus a really eye-catching essay, your chance of getting into top 100 schools is not that favorable. Sorry for my words. Finance program would be impossible to get in, solely based on the info your provided.


Actually Freerabbit stated very clearly about the hidden rules that applied in US b-school recruitment process. Every Chinese applicants outside of US confront this without any exceptions.


Try to improve every single aspects in your application credentials. Sometimes second or third tier schools are more picky about  T&G scores, that says, it's likely you would be able to be admitted by very top or very low ranking schools with an average scores, however, this case only applies to when you have very strong supporting materials like excellent reference letters, outstanding essays, or some insiders you know would help you..etc.


Do not give up, there're still many ways to improve yourself, and good luck!


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作者: free_rabbit    时间: 2005-3-20 07:46
I agree with larry98:-)
作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-20 20:17

Thank both of you very much.

anyway,I searched the B-school from 50-80,the more I got,the more I felt dicouraged because every school requires a GPA above 3.5 for master graduate study.But I still don't give up the efforts and hope now.I wished to finish the school searching as soon as possible,then,consulting with you on those choosen schools.


作者: catree    时间: 2005-3-20 22:41

My GPA is not high as well, because I did not drive for the higher scores in uni  and most of my scores are C. Sigh! . So, the effective way to solve this probalem is getting chance to meet  professor with strong paper works before uni. made final decision. And then rest of thing....just pray!


作者: catree    时间: 2005-3-20 22:56

88 Auburn University (AL) 3.1

88 Brigham Young Univ.-Provo (UT) 3.1

88 Ohio University 3.1

88 SUNY-Binghamton 3.1

88 SUNY-Buffalo 3.1

88 Washington State University 3.1

94 Yeshiva University (NY) 3.0

94 Clemson University (SC) 3.0

94 Colorado State University 3.0

94 Florida State University 3.0

94 Illinois Institute of Technology 3.0

94 Rutgers-Newark (NJ) 3.0

94 St. Louis University 3.0

94 SUNY-Albany 3.0

94 University of Kentucky 3.0

94 University of Miami (FL) 3.0

94 University of Vermont 3.0

94 Kansas State University 3.0

94 New School University (NY) 3.0

94 Oregon State University 3.0

94 University of Illinois-Chicago 3.0

94 Uni

110 American University (DC) 2.9

110 Clark University (MA) 2.9

110 Marquette University (WI) 2.9

110 Pepperdine University (CA) 2.9

110 University of New Hampshire 2.9

110 Univ. of South Carolina-Columbia 2.9

110 Worcester Polytechnic Inst. (MA) 2.9

110 Drexel University (PA) 2.9

110 George Mason University (VA) 2.9

110 Northeastern University (MA) 2.9

110 St. John's University (NY) 2.9

110 Temple University (PA) 2.9

110 University of New Mexico 2.9

110 University of Rhode Island 2.9

110 Indiana U.-Purdue U.-Indianapolis 2.9

111 Catholic University of America (DC) 2.8

111 Loyola University Chicago 2.8

111 University of Missouri-Rolla 2.8

111 Howard University (DC) 2.8

111 Louisiana State U.-Baton Rouge 2.8

111 University of Alabama-Birmingham 2.8

111 University of San Francisco 2.8

111 Virginia Commonwealth University 2.8

111 Univ. of Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2.8

134 Michigan Technological University 2.7

134 Stevens Institute of Technology (NJ) 2.7

134 Texas Christian University 2.7

134 University of Alabama 2.7

134 University of San Diego 2.7

134 DePaul University (IL) 2.7

134 Hofstra University (NY) 2.7

134 New Jersey Inst. of Technology 2.7

134 Seton Hall University (NJ) 2.7

134 Texas Tech University 2.7

134 University of Cincinnati 2.7

134 University of Hawaii-Manoa 2.7

134 U. of Maryland-Baltimore County 2.7

134 University of Texas-Dallas 2.7

134 Utah State University 2.7

134 Wayne State University (MI) 2.7

134 West Virginia University 2.7

134 Old Dominion University (VA) 2.7

134 San Diego State University 2.7

134 University of Houston 2.7

154 Clarkson University (NY) 2.6

154 Duquesne University (PA) 2.6

154 University of Denver 2.6


作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-20 23:16

Thank you so much, Catree


anyway,I don't  understand your solution vey well of "the effective way to solve this probalem is getting chance to meet  professor with strong paper works before uni. made final decision."


could you explain it more?


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作者: icecdy    时间: 2005-3-22 04:45
再不顶就沉底了




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