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作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-3-15 09:50
标题: OG-SC No. 193

193. Unlike the United States, where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka are concentrated in the monsoon months, June to September, and the skies are generally clear for the rest of the year.


(A) Unlike the United States, where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka


(B) Unlike the United States farmers who can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka


(C) Unlike those of the United States, where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains


(D) In comparison with the United States, whose farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka(E)


(E) In the United States, farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, but in most parts of Sri Lanka the rains





I understand why A, B, and D are faulty. But OG believes C is wrong becuase it violates parallelism. However, to me, C is logical and parallel.



those 指代 most parts of Sri Lanka's rains


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作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-7 01:52

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作者: colacat    时间: 2005-4-7 02:15

those of US 逻辑上,应该指的是part,而不是rains

besides, most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains 这个所有格,不妥当吧


作者: mmmzzz    时间: 2005-4-7 02:53
同意楼上的,those与之平行的应该为主句的主语。而主语应该为第一个名词,后面都是修饰parts的。
作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-7 03:25

为什么those of US就不能指代rains?

most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains 是很绕, 那正确表达应该是什么呢?


作者: mmmzzz    时间: 2005-4-7 03:44

因为从语法上来说,most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains 中的后面来修饰parts还算正常,这种主属关系比较清楚。但如果是rains为主语的话,那就是most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains,如何解释其意思呢?Sri lanka的大部分地区的雨?这样的话我认为它的所有格表达含糊不清,肯定是不符合语法要求的。

如果parts为主语,我认为most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains就不绕了,很清楚:Sri Lanka’s rains中的大部分。

个人意见,请大家看看!!


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-7 03:58
以下是引用mmmzzz在2005-4-7 3:44:00的发言:

因为从语法上来说,most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains 中的后面来修饰parts还算正常,这种主属关系比较清楚。但如果是rains为主语的话,那就是most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains,如何解释其意思呢?Sri lanka的大部分地区的雨?这样的话我认为它的所有格表达含糊不清,肯定是不符合语法要求的。


如果parts为主语,我认为most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains就不绕了,很清楚:Sri Lanka’s rains中的大部分。


个人意见,请大家看看!!



有理.


而且关键是parts不是主语.因为后面的句子are concentrated...已经表明主语是rains.


这样一来most parts应该修饰rains,而不是Sri Lanka,因为rains才是中心词.可这样又改变了原文的意思.原文要表达的是most parts of Sri Lanka. (绕的我舌头都快打结了)


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作者: colacat    时间: 2005-4-7 05:55
以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-7 3:58:00的发言:



有理.


而且关键是parts不是主语.因为后面的句子are concentrated...已经表明主语是rains.


这样一来most parts应该修饰rains,而不是Sri Lanka,因为rains才是中心词.可这样又改变了原文的意思.原文要表达的是most parts of Sri Lanka. (绕的我舌头都快打结了)





如果要表示这个意思应该是rains in most parts of LACE w:st="on">Sri LankaLACE>


LACE w:st="on">这涉及所有格的正确表述LACE>


作者: sammaijgd    时间: 2005-7-28 20:34
我想问个问题,those可以向后指代吗?
作者: brissa    时间: 2005-9-21 23:46

问个新问题


大家有没有注意到E中in the US, 是做全句状语的,那么就会产生这样的歧异E:In the US, ......, but in most parts of SL the rains are concentrated in....在美国的疆域里,大部分的SL的雨....



就象og133A:  In Holland, a larger percentage of the gross national product is spent on defense of their coasts from rising
seas than is spent on military defense in the United States.


而OG的解释是:Since In Holland modifies all of the sentence that follows, A states confusedly that Holland spends a percentage of its
gross national product on military defense in the United States.


难道在OG133里修饰全句的状语到了OG193中就不修饰全句了?还是因为OG193中多了but把全句分隔开了?


作者: scorpio0001    时间: 2005-10-17 10:29

我来回答10楼的问题:


og133A:  In Holland, a larger percentage of the gross national product is spent on defense of their coasts from rising seas than is spent on military defense in the United States.


OG193E: In the United States, farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, but in most parts of LACE w:st="on">Sri LankaLACE> the rains are concentrated in the monsoon months, June to September, and the skies are generally clear for the rest of the year.


OG133A:In Holland,后面是一整句话,所以有In Holland作为状语修饰整句的嫌疑,包括了后面的in the U.S.。而OG193E则不同,but连接了前后两个转折的并列句,两个句子相对独立,所以In the U.S.无论如何也管不了in the most parts of SL.


所以二者情况不可同日而语。


作者: juliet01192000    时间: 2006-3-27 19:39

对于C,还是没有明白those到底指代谁!


193. Unlike the United States, where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka are concentrated in the monsoon months, June to September, and the skies are generally clear for the rest of the year.


(A) Unlike the United States, where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka


(B) Unlike the United States farmers who can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri Lanka


(C) Unlike those of the United States, where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains


(D) In comparison with the United States, whose farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, the rains in most parts of Sri LankaE


(E) In the United States, farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year long, but in most parts of Sri Lanka the rains


In comparative structures (unlike X, Y...; in comparison with X, Y...) X and Y must be both logically and grammatically parallel. Choices A, B, C, and D all fail to observe logical parallelism:  (C) Unlike those of the United States,... most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains...;C also suffers from the unintelligible   most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains.


og说,C unlike前后不平行,并且 most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains.是难理解的。


Unlike the United States,most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains。。。


这里如果假设most parts of Sri Lanka’s rainsmost parts of Sri Lanka’s rains语法上正确,那么应该是most parts of (Sri Lanka’s rains ),即:SL雨的大部分。


无论是从中文翻译还是从A of B的结构来看,这个短语的中心词应该是A,即most parts (其实most parts 也是雨).


那么those应该指代most parts 。


不知道,这样理解对不对,望nn和xdjm们指正!


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作者: 顾风    时间: 2006-3-28 15:52
这是个平行结构
作者: amy7777    时间: 2006-10-4 13:10

下面是OG11的解释:

C  The sentence awkwardly and illogically seems to be comparing most parts of the United States with most parts of Sri Lanka's rains

是不是就是说这里的those指代的是most parts????等待大家确认。

谢谢。


作者: zlzlzl    时间: 2006-10-4 13:45

就是不知道所以才不选C啊,你想想看按语法结构所those可以指代全部rain或者是大部分地区的rain,而原文概念只能是其中一种,差很远,所以造成表达不清。


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作者: princepony    时间: 2006-10-4 16:27
c选项most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains的主语是rains,要保持平衡,第一个分句主语也应该是rains,也就是those指代rains。但是rains不能引导后面第二个分句的where地点状语从句,所以。。。
作者: amy7777    时间: 2006-10-5 05:11

就是不知道所以才不选C啊,你想想看按语法结构所those可以指代全部rain或者是大部分地区的rain,而原文概念只能是其中一种,差很远,所以造成表达不清。

c选项most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains的主语是rains,要保持平衡,第一个分句主语也应该是rains,也就是those指代rains。但是rains不能引导后面第二个分句的where地点状语从句,所以。。。

看完楼上两位的解释。我想了想,

再回过头来看解释,解释里有个seem to,有个awkwardly and illogically ,seem to说明zlzlzl这样的解释是对的。有个awkwardly and illogically 说明princepony的解释是对的。

The sentence awkwardly and illogically seems to be comparing most parts of the United States with most parts of Sri Lanka's rains

综上所述,这一题解决了,谢谢zlzlzl,谢谢princepony 你们讲的真好。


作者: ana9    时间: 2006-10-21 02:13
reasonable...
作者: jonahyn    时间: 2009-1-14 22:00
个人观点:
根据所有格规则,’s前面只能是人,如果是物则一定要用of 结构。C里面的Sri Lanka's rains不正确,故排除

作者: yinl    时间: 2009-7-3 02:37
以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-7 3:58:00的发言:

有理.

而且关键是parts不是主语.因为后面的句子are concentrated...已经表明主语是rains.

这样一来most parts应该修饰rains,而不是Sri Lanka,因为rains才是中心词.可这样又改变了原文的意思.原文要表达的是most parts of Sri Lanka. (绕的我舌头都快打结了)


mmmzzz:

因为从语法上来说,most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains
            
中的后面来修饰parts还算正常,这种主属关系比较清楚。但如果是rains为主语的话,那就是most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains,如何解释其意思呢?Sri lanka的大部分地区的雨?这样的话我认为它的所有格表达含糊不清,肯定是不符合语法要求的。

如果parts为主语,我认为most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains就不绕了,很清楚:Sri Lanka’s rains中的大部分。

个人意见,请大家看看!!

彻底晕了,薰衣草姐姐能不能再仔细讲讲啊,mmmzzz  的评论我实在是没有绕明白, most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains      和  most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains, 和   我认为most parts of Sri Lanka’s rains就不绕了   这三个句子长得一模一样啊,怎么最后一个就不绕了呢?

不明白啊……………………


作者: sumerlaw    时间: 2009-11-11 10:24
薰衣紫草姐姐可能不来CD了吧,这么多年了,我来回答你问题:
most parts of Srilanka's rains 这个结构很不清楚,因为Srilanka 在中间,而前后各有修饰。就像:bag of john's 根据下文,我们知道是rains是主要成分。这样会产生歧义:
1, 从 most parts 断开读:所有S雨的大部分(雨有很多,这只是一部分)
2,从Srilanka断开读,大部分S的雨(雨只在S的大部分有)

而歧义是ETS最不愿意看到的,所以OG说intelligible

在讨论 C中those指代的问题:

应为US后面有个定语从句:where farmers can usually depend on rain or snow all year along

现在有两种可能:

1,those指代rains,但是带入进去,逻辑就不清楚了:不像农民可以经常长年的依靠雨或雪的美国的雨? 这个话也太不清楚了!

2,those指代most part. 后面的where 指代those,不是US,如果指US,就不用those了
作者: sumerlaw    时间: 2009-11-11 10:27
大部分的中国的老百姓和most parts of Srilanka's rains有异曲同工之妙
作者: coloryoung    时间: 2010-10-20 13:43
多谢各位大侠,终于明白了,希望考场上不需要这样花时间嚼~~  




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