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标题: Queens' Phd VS Drexel, 求大家帮忙出个主意 [打印本页]

作者: 手戈 时间: 2005-3-15 09:39
标题: Queens' Phd VS Drexel, 求大家帮忙出个主意

收到了两个offer, 实在不知道该去那了。

Queen's Univ. (canada), accounting PHD

Drexel Univ, (USA), Finance, Phd

问了几个国外的教授，Queen的名声好象比drexel 好很多，但将来如果在美国学校找position，不知难度如何

但drexel在美国，机会是不是多一些？而且该校给的钱也比queen多

作者: julia_722 时间: 2005-3-15 09:51
唉，楼上什么背景啊，我被Queen's 给拒了。。。

作者: julia_722 时间: 2005-3-15 09:53

Queen's的商学院一般，不过Drexel Univ也一般啊，但是地理位置可能后者好一点吧。

唉，被那么一般的商学院拒了，嘿嘿，惭愧死了，也许你明天就拿到别的比这两个都牛的offer，就不用选择了。

作者: wales_hu 时间: 2005-3-15 10:51
Queen's is just so so, except MBA in Canada, while I have no idea about Drexel. But, there are less opportunities in Canada, compared to USA. Most Canadian Universities prefer to Ph.D students from US. However, it is not easy for a Canadian Ph.D to find a good position in US.

作者: 蓝妹妹 时间: 2005-3-15 12:22

不过drexel这样的学校在美国大学里能找到good position吗？应该也不行。

不过话又说回来，从drexel毕业再去加拿大，会不会工作好找一些也不一定

作者: charlizefan 时间: 2005-3-15 14:17

要是我，我肯定去QUEENS。第一，DREXEL在美国属於4类学校，毕业后找工作只能找5-6类学校，而且也比较难。而QUEENS在加拿大属於一流学校，毕业后肯定有机会进很好的学校教书，包括美国的一些好学校也不是不可能。我知道加拿大学校毕业后到美国教书的也有很多。第二，我知道CANADA的ACCOUNTING的FACULTY的OPENING比PHD要多很多，PHD IN ACCOUNTING是供不应求，而且我查到的在多伦多大学商学院教书的拿20多万加元的是很普遍的。而FINANCE的供求关系比ACCOUNTING要差很多，将来工作不好找，除非是1-2类学校毕业。DREXEL这样的学校毕业以后的前景很难确定。第三，你在QUEENS 毕业后的社会地位就很高了，而DREXEL就不能提供你这样的感觉。总之，无论是将来工作的确定性，收入，及社会地位来说，QUEENS更胜一筹。ACCOUNTING读起来还要比FINANCE要容易，而且ACCOUNTING很多研究的领域其实就是FINANCE。

思路一定要清楚，如果你不去QUEENS，我都替你惋惜啊。

作者: yx_tan 时间: 2005-3-15 14:38

加拿大会计博士的需求和供给比例是25:8,这个比例在美国是20:12,皇后大学会计博士毕业找个好学校教书一点问题也没有.

作者: julia_722 时间: 2005-3-15 15:16

4 years later , everything will be different, finance is in golden age 5 years before, so i think choose the right area you are really interesting in and this will promise your good paper, and paper will be everything in job marcket!

作者: charlizefan 时间: 2005-3-15 15:26
You are probably right, Julia. However, since you can't predict the future, the current information is the most valuable. Plus, phd's job market is different from other markets - it doesn't drastically from year to year.

作者: 手戈 时间: 2005-3-15 15:46

多谢各位啊, 不过我还想问问charlizefan 和yx_tan 关于加拿大和美国的会计博士的供需信息从哪里可以看到阿？

我本科，硕士学的都是金融，也从没出过国，对于在加拿大或美国找工作的难度一点概念也没有

作者: yx_tan 时间: 2005-3-15 16:58

加拿大会计博士的需求和供给这篇文章里有 http://www.caaa.ca/conferences_calls/caaa_conference/dhm-2004.html

美国的情况不是网上得到的

会计里关于金融的研究这篇文章里有总结 http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=235798

作者: mablechen 时间: 2005-3-15 18:02
恭喜楼主先！

作者: 蓝妹妹 时间: 2005-3-15 18:23
Yx_tan知道的好多阿，你是在加拿大念书吗？我发现咱们这好多牛人哦

作者: Vanilla 时间: 2005-3-15 21:53

Most Canadian schools would take PHD graduates from U.S. schools, so the 25:8 ratio doesn't indicate anything.

作者: charlizefan 时间: 2005-3-15 22:18

The statistics may not mean everything, but clearly has its indication. cross-border hiring has its occurrence but it shouldn't be considered as frequent. a phd candidate from a top us school normally finds positions in the us. a top canadian phd degree has definitely advantages competing a position with 2nd or 3rd rated us schools, even if a top canadian school may not be better than a 2nd rate us school.

作者: greeley 时间: 2005-3-16 00:13
When did u get offer from drexel? i applied its phd in marketing, but no reply

作者: yilinc 时间: 2005-3-16 10:35

Did you mainly apply to accounting programs or finance programs? I know almost all accounting phd students can find jobs (even those graduating from 100-150 ranked schools), but finance phd job market is much more competitive. Only phd finance from good schools can be sure to get a good job. In your case, drexel seems marginal. Queen's is a good business school, although not the best. but in canada, everybody knows it. If you have no interest in accounting at all, then drexel could be an option. Otherwise, queen's seems clearly a better option for me. Also, you can find lots of synergies between accounting and finance.

After all, congratulations for the offers! Would you like to

作者: yilinc 时间: 2005-3-16 10:37

Would you like to share a bit of your background... i.e, gmat, gpa, work/study experience, etc.

作者: 手戈 时间: 2005-3-16 12:10

多谢大家的热心帮助!

我的背景一般, 前面说了一些, 国内一般学校的金融硕士, gmat 730, toefl 630, gpa 4.0 无工作经验，有一些研究经力，不过根会计一点关系都没有

此外，大家值不值到 lousianna state univ.的finance 如何阿？不好意思，问的都是一些不知名的小学校

作者: yilinc 时间: 2005-3-16 12:47
did you also get an offer from louisianna state? i dont know much about the university and think its at the same level as drexel overall, probably slightly better, because i happen to know through my professor before that LSU has 1 or 2 very good faculty in derivatives.

作者: julia_722 时间: 2005-3-16 12:49
no, louisinanna is much better than drexel, coz, its research ranks around 40 to 50

作者: best-future 时间: 2005-3-16 19:40

大家好，明年我也想申请商学院博士，不知你们关于学校的信息和排名是哪里找的啊。楼主恭喜了，offer不只一个啊，请问您申请了几个学校，还有你倾向于去哪个学校呢。谢谢了！

作者: 蓝妹妹 时间: 2005-3-17 18:30

我还没有听说LSU 这个学校的研究排在这么前面，它好像在一个村里呢，julia_722是从哪里来的消息阿？

作者: julia_722 时间: 2005-3-17 22:26

just research ranking by top papers, not concern every factors, but i know the city's weather is very good....

作者: rongdongc 时间: 2005-3-18 08:36
Definitely choose Queens. I was told by my prof at UBC (Maurice Levi) that Queens' PhD are one of the tops in Canada and accounting area will become even hotter in the coming years. To know about job market for biz phd in general in Canada, check out www.commerce.usask.ca/faculty/tfeltham/ASAC2001.doc. For infomation in the States, see www.aacsb.edu/publications/dfc/DFC-ES-final.pdf. You'll hate yourself if you make the decision based on how much grant you get now, as living costs vary in different cities, and all schools only provide fundings that will cover a moderate student lifestyle.

作者: rongdongc 时间: 2005-3-18 08:40

Another interesting article about Canadian b-school's staffing problems :

The Brain game

Canada's biz deans grapple with a staffing crisis.

www.canadianbusiness.com/mba2004/ article.jsp?content=20041025_63082_63082

作者: 手戈 时间: 2005-3-18 10:54
我实在太感谢各位兄弟姐妹提供的这么多信息了!

作者: hjh14303 时间: 2005-3-19 00:20

I also prefer Queen's. As I know, in America Ph.D in accounting is very easy to find a good position, but Ph.D in Finance is much more difficult unless you graduate from top business school.

In addition, I don't know what's you long goal. In Canada, you can prepare to immigrant after you work as TA or RA for one year in your school. Your status is very important If you want to work in America in future. If you become a citizen of Canada, you will be much easier to find a job in America and enjoy many benefit from Canada ( you know canada's benefit is very well, even your parents can enjoy it)

probably, you don't care about your status now. But I am sure you will know the importance in future.

作者: shirleydeer 时间: 2005-4-3 14:04

原来楼主也是从国内直接申请的，可以介绍一下你的背景和经验吗？

我想申请明年的会计phd，还望各位多多指教啊

作者: izzizz 时间: 2005-4-5 15:22

楼上的各位牛人们，真羡慕你们啊。

我想明年申请 phd,但是，我本硕都是国内重点大学计算机毕业的，但实在不想继续编程序了，所以，想转方向读管理学的phd,兄台觉得我这样的能申请么？

我申请什么专业好呢，我想申请marketing.可是，像我这样背景能申请到奖学金么？

多谢了！

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