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作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-15 09:24
标题: 非常相像的两题！！！
164.
Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol, a compound commonly used as an automotive antifreeze, is effective at temperatures as low as –30 degrees Fahrenheit.
A. temperatures as low
B. temperatures so low
C. as low temperatures
D. as few
E. as little

答案选A，
C错误的原因是at后面要接名词
另外一道：
The Environmental Protection Agency frequently puts mandatory controls on toxic substances that present as little risk as one in a million chances to cause cancer.
(A) as little risk as one in a million chances to cause
(B) as little risk as one chance in a million of causing
(C) as little risk as one chance in a million that it will cause
(D) a risk as little as one chance in a million for causing
(E) a risk as little as one chance in a million for it to cause

这题选B
所以我就郁闷了。。。present后面也应该加名词呀。。。

Manhattan上也有关于我这个问题的讨论，我没看明白，不知道提问人怎么就突然明白了。。。原帖地址为
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/prep-sc-mixed-with-an-equal-part-of-water-ethylene-glycol-t9998.html

最后RON又说 AS .. AS 中间加名词的话是不可以写成复数的，所以第一题的判断点到时是at 后面应该接名词呢？还是中介的N错误地使用了复数形式= =
more generally, you can't have "as + adj + PLURAL + as...". this construction is only ok if the noun is singular.
e.g.
i have never met as despicable a person as your sister's boyfriend.
or
i have never met a person as despicable as your sister's boyfriend.
both correct

--

i have never met people as despicable as your friends.
--> correct
* BUT *
i have never met as despicable people as your friends.
--> incorrect.

作者: 暗夜迦蓝 时间: 2014-10-15 09:39
interesting
从没遇见过这种状况，帮顶求答案，顺便把这个as as用法学了

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-15 09:46

暗夜迦蓝发表于 2014-10-15 09:39
interesting
从没遇见过这种状况，帮顶求答案，顺便把这个as as用法学了

哟哟，刚在另外一个地方回你的帖子哈哈哈
你可以看下我那个Manhattan的链接，里面也是在讨论这个问题，但我没看明白囧= =

作者: 暗夜迦蓝 时间: 2014-10-15 10:32
嗯，我也看了一下这个帖子，大概是这样子：
1.一开始RON说第一题C错是因为at后面要跟名词，但是后来LZ贴出了第二道题，说present及物动词也需要跟名词，为什么可以选as little risk as呢？

2.RON又说是因为as as结构可以当名词用 as adj + noun -- that can be used in the same ways as nouns themselves can.
举了例子
here's another set of three examples, all of which are correct:
the virus is found in humans.
the virus is found in most humans.
the virus is found in as much as 80% of the human population.

3.这个时候LZ就说既然 as as可以当名词用那么第一题里的C 也是这种用法呀为什么错呢？

4.在RON回答之前，跳出来一个TIM，也是instrutor，他说 as as 中间需要用形容词，不能用名词。（但是这里我觉得不对，因为第二题的B就是加了名词，同时后面RON举的例子里as as中间也有名词）

5.这个时候LZ说明白了（其实他还没明白，因为他后面也发现了第二题中正确选项里as as间加了名词）

6.最后RON又出来了，这次他不说介词+名词的问题了，而是转说你复制的这段，关于as as中间不用复数名词的理论来解释第一题，这次貌似解释得通了

综上，介词+名词那套解释方法并不完善，因为从两题的对比以及RON说的as as可以当名词就可以看出来，而后面那套不能用复数名词的解释方法就没有缺陷了
至于第二题不选DE的原因可能是risk是不可数名词不能用 a risk 吧这个错误最直接

作者: GiannaWEN 时间: 2014-10-15 10:43
你给的link，我看了。这里提到几点：
1. at + noun
2. as……as 中间主要放abj. 如果放noun也需要是abj. + noun(singular)

结合题目1：A. tempteratures is before as……as stucture, and as low as is coccrect; C. as low temperatures as is inccorrect due to the plural noun - temperatures ! D &E are incorrect because "at" should follow noun or "as abj. +noun as" , not "as abj. as"
题目2：
First, prevent is a transitive verb, not a preposition, like "at". So the rule of "at + noun" can't restrict "prevent"
Second, the "chance" in "as little chance as" is singular, also correct.
Third, "to cause" express "in order to", which should be a purpose. But here "causing" should be better, indicating a consequence.

我觉得多体会idiom会比较有好处。

个人浅见，请拍砖！

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-15 14:57
看了楼上两位的回答，我来总结下
as ...as 中间可以加名词，但该名词只能是单数可数名词或者是不可数名词，并且该结构是可以整体作为一个名词的

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-15 14:57

陈大鱼发表于 2014-10-15 09:46
哟哟，刚在另外一个地方回你的帖子哈哈哈
你可以看下我那个Manhattan的链接，里面也是在讨论这个问题，但 ...

明白啦！！！谢谢哈

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-15 14:58

GiannaWEN 发表于 2014-10-15 10:43
你给的link，我看了。这里提到几点：
1. at + noun
2. as……as 中间主要放abj. 如果放noun也需要是abj. + ...

嗯，说的很有道理~
终于明白了谢谢哈~~

作者: 暗夜迦蓝 时间: 2014-10-15 19:21

陈大鱼发表于 2014-10-15 14:58
嗯，说的很有道理~
终于明白了谢谢哈~~

Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

楼主你看这题跟你上面的是一种类型吧。。为什么又violate那个as as中间不加复数的rule了呢

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-17 17:34

暗夜迦蓝发表于 2014-10-15 19:21
Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces dou ...

凌乱。。。看不懂了。。。
UP UP UP

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2014-10-19 10:07
UP up up up up up up

作者: zhouwenbin 时间: 2015-2-12 20:02
twice as ....as ...和as ...as ..的用法不一样，答主混淆了。

再gmat里，若考后者，则杀g规则是：(a) noun as adj as...或者 as adj +单数名词／不可数名词 +as

作者: 陈大鱼 时间: 2015-2-14 12:45

zhouwenbin 发表于 2015-2-12 20:02
twice as ....as ...和as ...as ..的用法不一样，答主混淆了。

再gmat里，若考后者，则杀g规则是：(a) no ...

其实现在我比较好奇你是怎么翻到这个帖子的= =

作者: zhouwenbin 时间: 2015-2-15 21:02

陈大鱼发表于 2015-2-14 12:45
其实现在我比较好奇你是怎么翻到这个帖子的= =

我在CD上搜索这个题的时候找到了。

作者: xcdamon 时间: 2016-4-13 11:28
ron 结贴了这里po上他的解释
This is a good question. I thought about it, and here's what I came up with:
"As ___ NOUN as" is only allowed if ___ = "much", "many", "few", or "little".
E.g., Manual High has as many students as Male High.

(Disclaimer: This is just the result of a few minutes of thinking about examples on my part. It's possible that I'm not thinking of everything here.)

作者: heoise.huang 时间: 2016-11-27 04:18
我也在纠结这个题，但是现在好像明白一点了。应该是句子中心的问题。第一题很明显中心是偏向low，第二题比较强调危机（risk）。

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