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标题: to have done 不定式 + 现在完成式 总结分享 [打印本页]

作者: jonasjin    时间: 2005-1-29 23:24
标题: to have done 不定式 + 现在完成式 总结分享

to have done  不定式 + 现在完成式 总结分享



前一段时间对上述结构不是理解,查了CD的讨论也没有特别满意的解释,经咨询老师后恍然大悟,现整理如下共大家参考。


第一个用法,也就是在GMAT中常出现的  -  用在indirect speech (report speech)- 也就是说信息提供的人不是直接的陈述者


human beings are thought to have first entered the Americans  大全325题


human beings first entered这个观点不是这篇文章的作者这么想,而是 are thought(被认为 被人们认为)


因为to have 是用在indirect speech,所以经常跟在think, claim, believe 等于陈述信息相关的单词后面多以被动的形式出现. To 前面动词的事态没有限制


可以从以下的例子中仔细体会 例子是从CD 的贴子中借的,都是大全例的例子


    it is thought to have happened


    six teenagers    claimed to have had vision of the virgin


    it is believed to have been the largest  


    few people are known to have recovered


    thought by some scholars to have occurred


    alleged to have been worn



经典的例子是大全157题,同时包括 to have 和 to be


Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.


(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother


(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother


(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered


(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have botheredB


(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


做这个题的时候有些朋友可能看到没有划线部分的have drunk 后根据平行原则选C 但这里因为seem 不是表达别人意见的词,而是做着对这件事情的看法,所以就没有必要用to have bothered 正确 答案是B. 如果我们把句子改称


however, it is said caffeine did not to have bothered 这样就可以了



而没有划线部分who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting注意一下这里的was reported 也就是 drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting 这个表述不是作者直接的而是引用别人的report 所以用了to have 这个形式


第二种用法是future


he is to have become the next president by the end of January


- he will have become the next  与这个意思想象,不过 will 是uncertain    is to have  是certain


he was to have been next president (在过去的时点上看未来)



还有现在完成式和过去完成式的用法简单地补充一下


大家都知道现在完成式是跟time 有关,time 对是用现在完成式还是用一般过去式的一个基准。如果有明确的时间或标志词例如,since 等比较好判断,但句子里没有明显的提示时应该怎么判断呢?另外的一半的判断基准是作者是否对他所表达的东西的态度 是一般的陈述还是强调。 如果是一般的陈述那就用一般过去时,如果作者对描述的东西的态度是强调那就用现在完成式 FOR EXAMPLE


I didnt eat lunch. I am not hungry  只是一般的陈述


I havent eaten lunch, so I am hungry 这里的前面的部分时后面句子的原因,为了表达后面的这个结果必须强调没有吃午饭的这件事情。



GMAT的现在完成式大多符合这个规律


如果那位朋友对现在完成是和一般过去式不太好把握的时候,哪这个基准去判断一下,基本上都很清楚。



一个小tip   在打开大全后(word 版面)点击上面 编辑  - 查找  然后输入关键词 have 就可以不费力气找到所有的根现在完成时有关的题了,复习的时候有效地用这个 查找功能 有很大的帮助,可以让你很轻松地找到某一个类型来复习。例如 复习比较就可以输入  than , as, rather than



过去完成式是从根本上说就是在过去的时点上用一般现在时,也就是把现在完成时搬到过去的时点了


举例 大全332


His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.


(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas


(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas


(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate


(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areasB


(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate


我记得很多老师讲过去完成式的时候说这个时态用在一个过去的事情发生在另一个过去的事情以前的时候用, 按照此理容易选A 因为


His studies     led    great ice sheets had existed  


这里的led 1837 表明 这个propose 发生在过去(只不过这里因为式不定式的缘故看不大出来)


那么 ice sheets existed 是这个以前的事情 是否也应该用had existed



然而,按照上面的我提过的方法 - 过去的时点上用一般现在时来看如果我们假设我们在1837年的时点上看这个问题那么就会是


Agassiz propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets existed in now currently temperate area  因为这里是一个对ice sheets存在的一般陈述,而不是强调,所以不必要用


have existed  如果是 have existed的话,那么回到现在的时点看的时候 就应该是


led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.


而因为就用过去的时点看正确的也是 sheets existed 所以回到现在也是用一般过去时


可能有点罗嗦,总而言之一句话,也就是把现在完成时搬到过去的时点了。其实从另外一个角度也可以理解- 陈述的两件事情没有直接的联系就没有什么内在联系 强调等 ,那么也没有必要用过去完成式了



例外


大全99


1.        Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.


(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is


(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is


(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was


(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone wasA


(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been


said that  后面不用按照indirect speech的规律 尽管said 是过去式,但后面可以跟现在时 我想可能是原话引用的意思吧  我记得还有一道类似的题。



请大家指正



作者: lilyzy    时间: 2005-1-30 00:02
谢谢jonasjin分享, 我觉得你的总结很有启发. 再次感谢.
作者: Hopeful    时间: 2005-6-2 12:54
谢谢楼主分享。
作者: tonyadidas    时间: 2005-6-2 15:26

这个总结非常好,实在是非常好。希望大家多参与讨论。多来看看。这个考点真是困惑了我很久。再次感谢楼主分享。


作者: xiao_zhutou    时间: 2005-6-13 03:48





例外



大全99



1.        Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.


(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is


(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is


(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was


(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone wasA


(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been


said that  后面不用按照indirect speech的规律 尽管said 是过去式,但后面可以跟现在时 我想可能是原话引用的意思吧  我记得还有一道类似的题。






请大家指正







好贴!楼主说的另一个例外一定是大全147题:decided that + 一般现在时


147.                  At a recent session, the French government has decided that Paris needs a second, larger opera house to complement the famous Paris Opera.


(A) has decided that Paris needs


(B) decided that Paris needs


(C) has decided that Paris will need


(D) decided that Paris has a need of(B)


(E) has decided that Paris needed



作者: 梦精灵_Fly    时间: 2005-6-13 11:10

很好的帖子!我从来都没有注意过to have done这样的结构。


以前对完成时态,我的判断比较死板,就是看到since, than ever before, the world never seen,past+大段时间,last+大段时间,我就考虑完成时态。否则我一般认为不用。现在看来,还要体会作者的语气啊。


作者: zxl_moon    时间: 2005-10-31 23:50
up!up! 希望更多人看到,顶一下!
作者: 盈儿    时间: 2006-9-12 00:24

但是大全里面的这道题目怎么解释呢?

14.
   
The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.

(A) few people have been known to have tasted it

(B) few having been known to taste it

(C) it has been tasted by few people

(D) few people have been known to taste it (D)

(E) few people having tasted it

可以从以下的例子中仔细体会 例子是从CD 的贴子中借的,都是大全例的例子

it is thought to have happened

six teenagers claimed to have had vision of the virgin

it is believed to have been the largest

few people are known to have recovered

thought by some scholars to have occurred

alleged to have been worn


[此贴子已经被作者于2006-9-12 0:26:15编辑过]

作者: tianshangke    时间: 2008-3-20 15:28

作者: yuepeiyi    时间: 2009-2-25 12:26

但是大全里面的这道题目怎么解释呢?

14.
   
The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.

(A) few people have been known to have tasted it

(B) few having been known to taste it

(C) it has been tasted by few people

(D) few people have been known to taste it (D)

(E) few people having tasted it


作者: xxxyyyzzz1    时间: 2009-4-18 09:57
顶上来继续讨论
LS的那道题,符合LZ说的不是说话者的意见,用to have的规律,但是答案不是啊~

作者: ZAKRIOS    时间: 2011-11-24 16:20
研究了一下,真的是非常好的帖子,谢谢帮助。
作者: edwinwos    时间: 2012-5-18 11:56
这个似乎 有点 混乱! 不是很明确!

有人这样说:

不定时的过去表达方法就是这样的呗, 其实不能说是现在完成时
如 Appear to be equipped 现在
 Appear to have been equipped 过去

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-456496-2-5.html
作者: panyao0226    时间: 2012-5-25 23:16
对对对,想起来了,
关于现在完成时,以前老师强调过,但是体会都不是很深。
现在完成时暗示动作与现在的某种联系或是对现在有影响
作者: lxt7    时间: 2012-10-25 10:41
真是清晰明了 看老帖子真有感觉 不知道你们现在多怎么样了。。。。
作者: mu200    时间: 2013-1-8 14:45
标题: to do和to have done的区别
to have done就是指发生在谓语动作之前,比如:I am sorry to keep you waiting.指我得让你等会(等待的动作还没有结束),I am sorry to have kept you waiting.让你久等了,等待的动作已经结束了。 a single ancestor’s who is thought to have lived about 140,000 years ago.这里这个人已经死了,是绝对不能用to do的,所以一般看到的is said, is believed, is thought通常看到得都是接have done。但是如果to do这件事还没有结束,就不用完成,比如  gmat is consider to be very difficult.因为gmat至今还在进行并且还是很难,所以用to be, 如果gmat考试废止了或者变简单了,那就要说 gmat is consider to have been very difficult.
作者: enkyklios    时间: 2013-4-24 18:59
seem 也并非不能; He seems to have caught a cold
作者: Ashley0814    时间: 2015-12-17 17:49
先收藏啦,一看就是好贴~
作者: Vivianwyd    时间: 2017-4-20 16:09
回过头看老帖子,解决了好多的问题啊!!!谢谢!!!
作者: yayuxu    时间: 2017-10-30 19:43
顶楼主!               
作者: happyself    时间: 2018-1-22 00:59
这样的好帖我要mark一下~
作者: 一起从头开始    时间: 2019-4-6 17:38
jonasjin 发表于 2005-1-29 23:24
to have done  不定式 + 现在完成式  总结分享 前一段时间对上述结构不是理解,查了CD的讨论也没 ...

Mark一下!               
作者: 奎尼米兰达    时间: 2019-7-31 13:20
感谢分享!               




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