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作者: Ninger    时间: 2005-1-19 15:51
标题: OG-44(连接当中没找到!)

44. Some people have questioined the judge's objectivity in cases of sex discrimination against women. But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women. This record demonstrates that the judge has not discriminiated against women in cases of sex discrimination against women.


The arugument above is flawed in that it ignores the possibility that


A. a large number of the judge's cases arouse out of allegations of sex discrimination against women


B. many judges find it difficult to be objective in cases of sex discrimination against women


C. The judge is biased against women defendants or plaintiffs in cases that do not involve sex discrimination


D.The majority of the cases of sex discrimination against women that have reached the judges court have been appealed from a lower court


E. The evidence shows that the women should have won in more than 60 percent of the judges cases involving sex discrimination against women


选E, 我没看懂



作者: yingji    时间: 2005-1-19 17:14
E说的是,证据显示女人应当赢得多于60%的涉及性别歧视的案件
作者: babypace    时间: 2005-1-20 00:51

恩。这题是第一次问,所以没有从前的连接。

同意yingji的解释。这题是非常直接的提出原推论的缺陷


作者: wonderful0928    时间: 2005-3-18 15:25

But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women.

这句话在题干中应作何解?求全文翻译,谢谢


作者: hawkinsxie    时间: 2005-3-18 19:57

题干:有证据显示,在60%的有关性别歧视的案件中,judge倾向于女性。===〉judge在此类案件中排斥女性的观点是错的。

题目:要求驳斥

则:显然原题是有一般事实推出普遍真理。一般,我们用驳斥论据的方法。


作者: 我爱欧洲    时间: 2005-4-29 23:44
OG解释中说,the flaw in the argument is that is assumes erroneously that a mojority of decisions favorable to women in SD cases demonstrates absence of discriminatory behavior……。这是否可理解为WEAKEN的对象为推理成立的前提?
作者: lindazhou    时间: 2005-6-24 17:45

B, C 为什么与提干无关呢?


作者: EASYSUMMER    时间: 2005-6-24 23:50

论证过程:60%以上对妇女的歧视案是以利于女性为结果判的---》在此类案子的审判上没有歧视妇女。


B 法官发现很多这类案子很难保证客观。(不客观的结果是双向的,即偏向女性或反之.)  与论证过程无关


C 法官对于不涉及性别歧视的案子中的女上诉者有歧视。  


继续讨论


作者: cg    时间: 2005-7-17 23:24
以下是引用EASYSUMMER在2005-6-24 23:50:00的发言:

论证过程:60%以上对妇女的歧视案是以利于女性为结果判的---》在此类案子的审判上没有歧视妇女。


B 法官发现很多这类案子很难保证客观。(不客观的结果是双向的,即偏向女性或反之.)  与论证过程无关


C 法官对于不涉及性别歧视的案子中的女上诉者有歧视。  


继续讨论



根据OG上的解释


Choice B and C introduce considerations with no bearing on the reasoning of the argument. Because the argument concerns a particular judge, B is inappropriate; because it concerns cases of particular type, C is inappropriate.



因此,B的错误应该在于题干是讨论 the judge。答案中many judges不在讨论范围内。


C的错误在于题干仅讨论关于sex discrimination against women,,答案中 in cases that do not involve sex discrimination不在讨论范围内。



作者: snowjing    时间: 2005-7-20 23:00
以下是引用hawkinsxie在2005-3-18 19:57:00的发言:

题干:有证据显示,在60%的有关性别歧视的案件中,judge倾向于女性。===〉judge在此类案件中排斥女性的观点是错的。


题目:要求驳斥


则:显然原题是有一般事实推出普遍真理。一般,我们用驳斥论据的方法。



愚笨的我还是没有看明白:


题干中"But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women. ", 与E选项中"the women should have won in more than 60 percent of the judges cases involving sex discrimination against women " 说得不是同一个意思吗?


请大家帮助,谢谢!


作者: cg    时间: 2005-7-20 23:43
以下是引用snowjing在2005-7-20 23:00:00的发言:



愚笨的我还是没有看明白:


题干中"But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women. ", 与E选项中"the women should have won in more than 60 percent of the judges cases involving sex discrimination against women " 说得不是同一个意思吗?


请大家帮助,谢谢!


the women should have won in more than 60 percent of the judges cases involving sex discrimination against women.


Should have+ pp是假设语气,与过去事实相反。


女人应当赢得多于60%的涉及性别歧视的案件(但事实上没有)



希望有帮助!



作者: howardwang    时间: 2005-7-21 09:00

But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women. ",说在60%的这类案件中,法官判决妇女赢(并推出法官没有歧视妇女)


而"the women should have won in more than 60 percent of the judges cases involving sex discrimination against women 说,在这类案件中,妇女实际应该赢60%以上(比如说90%,则90%-60%=30%,这30%就是歧视,所以说法官没有歧视妇女是错误的。)


作者: swlfx    时间: 2005-7-21 09:03

同意cg、howardwang的意见。


作者: snowjing    时间: 2005-7-21 23:44

茅塞顿开,我怎么没有想到这一层呢!头脑太简单!


继续努力!


非常感谢cg、howardwang和swlfx.


作者: icare1    时间: 2005-7-22 23:40
Hehe. E indicates that more than 60% cases should lead to women's win. Since judges' decision is equal to 60% ==> judges are unfair
作者: itcmich    时间: 2005-7-23 17:51
这道题大家不适应的是: 我们的定势思维都认为法官是不会有性别歧视的,所以看题别扭,干扰了我们的判断
作者: zhuer    时间: 2005-8-11 03:23
文中虽然说有60%的CASES,法官的判决都对女性有利。得出的结论是法官没有歧视女性。



但是D给出的事实是:女性其实应该赢取超过60%的CASES。



这就说明法官还是有歧视,也就weaken了文中的结论。(否则女性应该赢不止60%的cases)



希望这个解释能对楼上有帮助。


作者: kevinchaung    时间: 2005-8-13 09:49

苦求中文解释,fainting now,plz.....


OG解释中说,the flaw in the argument is that is (是is 还是it?)assumes erroneously that a mojority of decisions favorable to women in SD cases demonstrates absence of discriminatory behavior……。


作者: vacationer    时间: 2005-8-23 10:30
以下是引用kevinchaung在2005-8-13 9:49:00的发言:

苦求中文解释,fainting now,plz.....


OG解释中说,the flaw in the argument is that is (是is 还是it?)assumes erroneously that a mojority of decisions favorable to women in SD cases demonstrates absence of discriminatory behavior……。




是it



作者: newsunshine    时间: 2006-2-7 17:03
Thanks!
作者: EASYSUMMER    时间: 2006-2-26 15:02
同意CG 意见

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-26 15:03:24编辑过]

作者: billyoung    时间: 2006-6-29 19:11

我觉得D选项也对阿

大部分案子中的女当事人都是从下层法院上诉过来的,这不正说明了法官对女性有歧视吗


作者: 逝者如风    时间: 2006-7-12 22:31
以下是引用billyoung在2006-6-29 19:11:00的发言:

我觉得D选项也对阿

大部分案子中的女当事人都是从下层法院上诉过来的,这不正说明了法官对女性有歧视吗

是否是从下层法院上诉过来的与原文没有关系,原文中未提及这个问题。


作者: goodwaiter    时间: 2006-11-16 01:29
茅塞顿开
作者: barefootmarmot    时间: 2006-11-30 15:43

如果是weaken,那么D就应该对了吧。


作者: yoyobaobao    时间: 2007-2-7 12:53

请问此题A选项a large number of the judge’s cases arose out of allegations of sex discrimination against women的译文是什么,还有OG对A、D的解释:A and D have no bearing on the reasoning of the argument, because the origin of the cases is not at issue in the argument.是说案件的由来与argument无关吗?


作者: Snevy    时间: 2007-2-7 13:11
順便請教一下,
E的答案說,女性應該有贏過60%的SEX DISCRIMINATION,
因為結果只有贏60%的案字,代表著THE JUDGE沒有支持女性,所以WEAKEN?

作者: yoyobaobao    时间: 2007-2-8 06:22

To Snevy :

"代表著THE JUDGE沒有支持女性", 我想应该不是“没有支持女性”,是说judge“SEX DISCRIMINATION”,这样来削弱。

另外,请大家再帮我看看我的问题,多谢了!

请问此题A选项a large number of the judge’s cases arose out of allegations of sex discrimination against women的译文是什么,还有OG对A、D的解释:A and D have no bearing on the reasoning of the argument, because the origin of the cases is not at issue in the argument.是说案件的由来与argument无关吗?



作者: shanj    时间: 2007-6-9 17:21

A中是说法官手中有好多歧视女性的案件 D你说对了来源无关


作者: leon_ash    时间: 2007-8-8 02:02

我觉得A也是一个削弱!

我对A的理解是法官手上有很多案子,这些案子都没有被认为属于性歧视案子(out of allegations of sex discrimination)

(言下之意就是这些案子本来就应该属于性歧视案子,但是事实上并没有算)

这不是削弱了法官的公平性了吗??

一家之言,欢迎讨论。


作者: vv_mind    时间: 2008-4-5 16:57

这么长时间了都没人理了呀~~~

我尝试回答一下吧:

A说的应该是法官手上有大量的案件,这些案件来源于主张对妇女的性别歧视。

那么就像OG的解释所说的,A是说的案件的来源,所以无关了呀。

请NN指教~~~


作者: cathyzq    时间: 2008-4-7 15:18

Some people have questioined the judge's objectivity in cases of sex discrimination against women. But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women. This record demonstrates that the judge has not discriminiated against women in cases of sex discrimination against women.

有人质疑法官在性别歧视的案件中经常不是站在妇女一边的。但是记录显示60%的这样的案子里面,法官总是偏向于妇女,这个记录已经说明法官没有在性别歧视的案件中对妇女不利。

这里有几个关键的词语,法官对妇女的偏见,60%的案子,

FLAWED可以理解为WEAKEN,如果这些案子都是因为法官造成的性别歧视而引起的诉讼,那即使60%的案子偏向于妇女,也说明了一些PEOPLE的质疑,那还有40%的还没有偏向妇女或者不公平的对待妇女,那更“支持”了这些人对法官的质疑!

这道题目在OG里有,很容易理解!不用想太复杂!


作者: neverblue203    时间: 2008-5-5 06:02

一些人置疑法官在处理女性骚扰案件中的公正性.(一方观点)

前提:(But)

60%案件中,法官是支持女性,

60%案件中,法官没歧视女性.

结论:

法官在处理case中是公正的.(另方观点)

 

Flaw60%=100%),相对比率等同于绝对数值.(部分现象-----推断全部现象)

(错误选项:都是结论的直接否定,不重视推理过程.)

The argument above is flawed in that it ignores the possibility that

A. a large number of the judge’s cases arose out of allegations of sex discrimination against women.(首先:caseorigin不是文中讨论点)

:60%案件中,法官是支持女性,-à
        
法官在处理case中是公正的,(推理过程否定.)

法官大量案件都是源于主张歧视女性性骚扰案件-à法官在处理case中是不公正的.()

法官发现在处理案件中难以保持公正性à法官在处理case中是不公正的.

法官在其他案件对女性defendant歧视à法官在处理case中是不公正的.

大部分女性性骚扰案件都是从低级法院申请上达到:法庭->法官在处理case中是不公正的.

其他四项都是结论的否定”---认为:法官在case是不公正的.因为四个原因---直接否定结论.

但是,真正的答案,从推理过程入手:60%的公正,不等于100%的公正.
作者: ada3063    时间: 2008-8-18 10:50
lz上的强。。。
作者: hidenari    时间: 2008-8-19 16:59
以下是引用snowjing在2005-7-20 23:00:00的发言:

愚笨的我还是没有看明白:

题干中"But the record shows that in sixty percent of such cases, the judge has decided in favor of the women. ", 与E选项中"the women should have won in more than 60 percent of the judges cases involving sex discrimination against women " 说得不是同一个意思吗?

请大家帮助,谢谢!

后一句是虚拟语气

题干说60%的SD案子中法官赞同女性,E的意思是假如本来就不止60%的案子就该女性赢,而结果却只有60%,超过的部分还是有SD的嫌疑。






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