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作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-26 16:23
标题: 询问关于there型的比较问题
A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were four years ago.

我查了一下只有说这是主语比较,但是还是一头雾水,为什么这里要用were,难道是因为four years么?这个关于there的语法点好混乱,求NN解答。thx!!
作者: 木以晨夕    时间: 2013-7-26 17:26
这里的比较对象是:the number of microcomputer NOW vs. the number of microcomputer FOUR YEARS AGO
我们来把省略的部分还原一下,看清楚它:

A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were (microcomputers for pupils ) four years ago.

因为there be后面跟的是microcomputers,所以要用were.



作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-26 18:38
哦!谢谢NN
我当初想也是这样省略的,但是为啥能确定省略的是 复数形式 的 microcomputers 而不是跟上文一样的 单数形式 呢?别介意这个问题小儿科,可能是因为基础不好,所以总会因为这种好像很愚蠢的问题思考方式,真是很苦恼呀。
作者: enkyklios    时间: 2013-7-26 19:05
这个问题不小儿科吧!这个问题的关键在于…times as any as的成份,它和主句的关系。弄清楚以后才能确定前后比较对象
作者: 木以晨夕    时间: 2013-7-26 19:28
waterblue01 发表于 2013-7-26 18:38
哦!谢谢NN
我当初想也是这样省略的,但是为啥能确定省略的是 复数形式 的 microcomputers 而不是跟上文一 ...

这个问题很好啊,楼主不要苦恼。来看一下如果省略的是单数microcomputer会是怎样?

还是先把句子还原:
A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there was (1/4 microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils) four years ago.
等等,1/4 microcomputer 是个神马意思?computer可不能像蛋糕一样分啊。

换个方式行吗?把pupils翻4倍不就得了?
还是先把句子还原:
A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there was (one microcomputer for every 128 pupils) four years ago.

这样子句子就不一样了,there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils vs. there was one microcomputer for every 128 pupils four years ago

不一样就不能随便省略了,也就说省略的部分要一致才不会有歧义。

而从语义上来讲,比较的就是microcomputer的数量,那肯定不止一个喽,所以复数在这里更好。
作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-26 19:58
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-26 19:05
这个问题不小儿科吧!这个问题的关键在于…times as any as的成份,它和主句的关系。弄清楚以后才能确定前 ...

可否深入一下。。:P
作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-26 20:00
木以晨夕 发表于 2013-7-26 19:28
这个问题很好啊,楼主不要苦恼。来看一下如果省略的是单数microcomputer会是怎样?

还是先把句子还原:

哦。。太感谢了,打了这么多字,谢谢NN!这样理解是好一些。。哎,学理科的伤不起,总觉得不那么100%确定的答案就会特别纠结。。
作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-26 20:03
木以晨夕 发表于 2013-7-26 19:28
这个问题很好啊,楼主不要苦恼。来看一下如果省略的是单数microcomputer会是怎样?

还是先把句子还原:

对了,这个意思是不是说如果原句是A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is now four microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, 那么后面就可以用 was   了?
作者: 木以晨夕    时间: 2013-7-26 20:24
waterblue01 发表于 2013-7-26 20:03
对了,这个意思是不是说如果原句是A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is  ...

是的!这样应该可以用was啦
作者: enkyklios    时间: 2013-7-26 20:35
我不同意晨曦兄的看法,我觉得这还是没有弄清楚这个句子的结构,我现在手里上网不方便,我稍后帖一下我的看法,
作者: enkyklios    时间: 2013-7-26 21:17
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies— fewer than have been killed by bee stings。
你的问题和这道题其实没有任何区别,但是我个人更喜欢这里用破折号,

A recent national study of the public schools shows that there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils。four times as many (computers) as there were four years
ago.
作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-27 00:02
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-26 21:17
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movie ...

哦!!关键是这里as many computers as 因为有many,所以computers是复数,然后后面是there were!
作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-27 00:14
木以晨夕 发表于 2013-7-26 20:24
是的!这样应该可以用was啦

话说后面的解释貌似更准确,NN你看一下?:)
作者: 木以晨夕    时间: 2013-7-27 08:56
楼主你好!后来又查了前辈对这类型题的总结,大熊正解。

下面这个链接是前辈对你这道题(第一道题就是)以及所有类似题目的总结,每句话省略哪部分都说的很清楚,有助于加深理解!

谢谢大熊指点!

http://www.chasedream.com/show.aspx?id=606&cid=41
作者: waterblue01    时间: 2013-7-27 12:51
木以晨夕 发表于 2013-7-27 08:56
楼主你好!后来又查了前辈对这类型题的总结,大熊正解。

下面这个链接是前辈对你这道题(第一道题 ...

感谢呀!!!:)




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