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标题: 大搜魂针系列之五； [比较than】 [打印本页]
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 21:16
标题: 大搜魂针系列之五； [比较than】
总觉得这是主语的比较，一定需要一个动词的。
the nerve lining of a mouse's nose contains roughly the same number of olfactory receptorsas that of a human's nose
如果答案是这样， 那不就成了比较 老鼠的nerve lining 含有和 numer of a human's nose 一样的 number of olfacory receptors.
不是很荒谬么。。。
我觉得这里貌似就没有正确答案了。。。。
我的意思是， 如果没有动词， 就成了宾语的比较。 i eat apple faster than you. 我吃苹果比吃你快。 而这个句子想表达的是 i eat apple faster than you do. 】
本来关于【比较】结构我已经发了一个贴子，但是反映也很平淡，所以就懒得再继续了。今天又看到一们童鞋在问一个关于比较的的问题，我又觉得倒是可以针对这个提问分析一下，这比闷头做系统总结要效果好一点。
我们看她的说法； " I eat apple faster than you. （错误） 我吃苹果比吃你快。
I eat apple faster than you do. " 这个句子想表达的真正意思
这是在论坛里边只要谈论比较就能看到的一个句子。我没有去考查它的来源，希望不是来自大牛权威之手。因为我始终认为他们的说法是不正确的.
如果没有证据就这样说既忤逆权威又误导大家，于是我不免从词典上找上了句正确的例句
Nobody understands the situation betterthan you.
如果仅仅因为主语比较可以不用补助动词就说别人总结错了的话，那我就未免小题大作，有哗众取宠之嫌了。那问题的关键在那呢？
问题在于词典中把这个例句归为[介词],既然than是介词短语那么例句“ I eat apple faster than you ”就不能补充谓语或者助动词的（当然你非要补上也没有关系，但是这改变了than的词性）
本来分析到这里大家应该都能够认可介词than 后面是不需要补出或者不能补出谓语的。但是我想画蛇添足分析一下如果补出和不补出有没有区别。
以下纯粹我个人扯蛋，如果不喜欢可以不看；
I eat apple faster than you . 介词短语作状语。 than you 意为比起你来，我吃苹果快一些
I eat apple faster than you eat apple than为连词引导状语从句。 意为我吃苹果比你吃苹果快一些
们必须要看到的就是than you 中than的词性是介词绝不能这时候一厢情愿地认为需要给它补出一个谓语来
趁热打铁分析一下gmat的比较题，看看是不是更容易呢
In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, theprotein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the aminoacids essential to
the human diet.
A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
B )rice has protein of higher quality than that in
C )the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
D )rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
E) rice has a protein higher in quality than
我们先分析这句话；
a different stone from that one
a different ( 定语）stone from that one （副词性介词短语修饰different) 。 其实这句话可以改成 a stone different from that one
这个东西和我们要分析的题有一毛钱关系吗？各位看官稍安勿燥。
我们看正确选项；rice has protein of higher quality than that in 副词性介词短语修饰higher
a different stone from that one 副词性介词短语修饰different 与……不同（different)
如果大家看是看不明白我的意图；我继续解释
在我看来下边这几道题是换汤不换药，如果按照省略的说法我们需要大费周折最后可能连比较对象都没有搞清楚，但是如果按照我的办法可谓手到其来。大家自己做一下测试吧
另；
Noother food available to the birds on Delaware’sbeaches is as nutritious and accessible as are crab eggs.(因为谓语单复数不一致，需要补出)
这是论坛里又一常见说法，我认为这也是错误的。不过我们不想把这问题扩展的太大。只是提醒大家注意
作者: xiqiong 时间: 2013-6-20 21:36
先赞一个～～～～～～～～～
作者: xiqiong 时间: 2013-6-20 21:47
后面几道题的答案看不到的说～ 好吧～我误解了～原来这还有一个小积分要求~
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 21:48
xiqiong 发表于 2013-6-20 21:47 
后面几道题的答案看不到的说～ 是不是要积分多少多少的才可以看到～？
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 21:49
噢，答案我忘有放进去
According to a survey of graduating medical students conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas.
(A) minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
(B) minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates who plan on practicing
(C) minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing
(D) it is nearly four times more likely that minority graduates rather than other graduates will plan to practice
(E) it is nearly four times as likely for minority graduates than other graduates to plan to practice
One reason why more young people lose their virginity during the summer than at other times of the year undoubtedly is because school vacations give adolescents more free time.
(A) One reason why more young people lose their virginity during the summer than at other times of the year undoubtedly is because
(B) If young people lose their virginity more during the summer than other seasons, it is undoubtedly because
(C) One undoubtable reason that young people lose their virginity more during the summer than other times is
(D) One reason more young people lose their virginity during the summer than at other times of the year is undoubtedly that
(E) Young people lose their virginity more often during the summer undoubtedly because, for one reason,
Because of the Sun, which is 400 times larger than the Moon, but also 400 times farther away from Earth, so both the Sun and the Moon have the same apparent size in the sky.
A. Because of the Sun, which is 400 times larger than the Moon, but also 400 times farther away from Earth, so both the Sun and the Moon have the same apparent size in the sky.
B. The Sun, which is 400 times larger than the Moon, is also 400 times farther away from Earth, so the Sun and the Moon have the same apparent size in the sky.
C. The Sun and the Moon have the same apparent size in the sky because the Sun, which is 400 times larger than the Moon, and also 400 times farther away from Earth.
D. Four hundred times larger than the Moon and 400 times farther away from Earth, the Sun has the same apparent size in the sky as the Moon's.
E. Four hundred times larger than the Moon and also 400 times farther away from Earth, so the Sun in the sky has the same apparent size as the Moon
When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity inthe late 1950’s, some 4,000 existed in the United States, but today thereare less than one-quarter that many.A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of thatamount
D. the number is less than one-quarter theamount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount
A recent review of pay scales indicates （that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times） in 1980.
(A) that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
(B) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
(●) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
(D) CEO's who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
(E) CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
作者: xiqiong 时间: 2013-6-20 22:01
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-20 21:49
噢，答案我忘有放进去
哈哈~不过最后一道题有点小绕~ 一做还是会错啊~
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 22:04
xiqiong 发表于 2013-6-20 22:01
哈哈~不过最后一道题有点小绕~ 一做还是会错啊~
还好吧，
than those that…… ( 定语个从句去掉）
than those in …… （介词短语定语去掉）
这两个不是完全一样吗？
作者: xiqiong 时间: 2013-6-20 22:11
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-20 22:04
还好吧，
than those that…… ( 定语个从句去掉）
我是一开始没想到those指代什么东西~ sources? ~
作者: xiqiong 时间: 2013-6-20 22:12
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-20 22:04
还好吧，
than those that…… ( 定语个从句去掉）
我觉得你已经语法成精了！。。。。
膜拜下~
然后~ 问问阅读应该怎么开始。。。
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 22:17
xiqiong 发表于 2013-6-20 22:12
我觉得你已经语法成精了！。。。。 膜拜下~
然后~ 问问阅读应该怎么开始。。。 ...
阅读我觉得只能多读了，
作者: 云游 时间: 2013-6-20 23:17
刚刚在看那道题，又见到兄弟发帖了，哈哈，先顶一个吧
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 23:24
云游 发表于 2013-6-20 23:17
刚刚在看那道题，又见到兄弟发帖了，哈哈，先顶一个吧
作者: bejamin1111 时间: 2013-6-20 23:27
每天一顶！。。。。。。。。
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-20 23:28
bejamin1111 发表于 2013-6-20 23:27
每天一顶！。。。。。。。。
谢谢bej
别忘了多提宝贵意见
作者: bejamin1111 时间: 2013-6-20 23:44
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-20 23:28
谢谢bej
别忘了多提宝贵意见
哈哈，这周休整中，已经mark了，下周开始慢慢拜读
作者: 云游 时间: 2013-6-21 00:24
Plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than are fungi, in the form of carbon dioxide, and converting it to energy-rich sugars.
A. Plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than are fungi,
B. Plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than fungi,
C. Plants are more efficient than fungi at acquiring carbon,
D. Plants, more efficient than fungi at acquiring carbon,
E. Plants acquire carbon more efficiently than fungi,
该OG题中的B，你怎么看？OG的解释时说其错误，是因为宾语的比较。
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-21 00:31
云游 发表于 2013-6-21 00:24
Plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than are fungi, in the form of carbon dioxide, and con ...
我觉得这个跟咱们谈论的稍有不同，但又异曲同工
我们看它为什么不行
plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than fungi由于有了at acquiring，它把优先获得了than fungi的修饰；
句子变成了比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高效）
深层层的原因是；
介词短语than语法上并不是只能做主语比较。其实他们从来都是可以作宾语比较的。所以我们要保证逻辑上只有一种合理。例如；
nobody understands the situation better than you 。
I eat apple faster than you
但是看下边这两个例子；
I understands the sittuation better than he .这句话的意思是说我比他更理解这个情况
I understands the situation better than him. 我理解情况比理解他多了（注意；宾格him的使用强制的使得句子变成了宾语比较)
翻译成汉语我们也可以理解。比起他来，我更了解情况。
比起 (了解）他来，我更了解情况。
结论；
1；尽管than作为介词短语会会导致两种解读 但两种意思本身并不是来源于than作为连词的不同省略造成的。而是than作为介词短语本身就具有的。
2；语法上两种可能都是存在的一个句子的，正确与否要以逻辑合理为前提。假如两种比较都成立的时候我们就不能这样使用介词短语than 而要使用连词than引导句子。
那回到你说的这道题at acquiring的使用，使得than fungi 想再比较主语已经心有余力不足了，它只能修饰acquiring
类似的这题也不能；
The imposition of quotas limiting imported steel will not help the big American steel mills. In fact, the quotaswill help "mini-mills" flourish in the United States. Those small domestic mills will take more business from thebig Americal steel mills than would have been taken by the foreign steel mills in the absence of quotas.
Which of the following, if true, would cast the most serious doubt on the claim made in the last sentence above?
(A) Quality rather than price is a major factor in determining the type of steel to be used for a particular application.
(B) Foreign steel mills have long produced grades of steel comparable in quality to the steel produced by the big American mills.
(C) American quotas on imported goods have often induced other countries to impose similar quotas on American goods.
(D) Domestic "mini-mills" consistently produce better grades of steel than do the big American mills.
(E) Domestic "mini-mills" produce low-volume, specialized types of steels that are not produced by the big American steel mills.
作者: kiwifoodtown 时间: 2013-6-21 08:42
顶一下总结，但有个疑问想问下：
“我觉得这个跟咱们谈论的稍有不同，但又异典同工
我们看它为什么不行
plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than fungi由于有了at acquiring，它把优先获得了than fungi的修饰；
句子变成了比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高效）”
您以上这段话好像有点不妥，还是我的理解有问题，可否讨论下？
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-21 14:43
kiwifoodtown 发表于 2013-6-21 08:42
顶一下总结，但有个疑问想问下：
“我觉得这个跟咱们谈论的稍有不同，但又异典同工
必须谈论啊
作者: kiwifoodtown 时间: 2013-6-21 15:34
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-21 14:43
必须谈论啊
那好，您这句“句子变成了比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高效）”我不知道您是在说B选项表达的意思，还是原来句子应表达的意思。
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-21 15:37
kiwifoodtown 发表于 2013-6-21 15:34
那好，您这句“句子变成了比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高 ...
B啊。云游兄问的是我对B怎么看
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-21 16:33
谢谢班班哥加精
作者: zxppx 时间: 2013-6-21 17:55
我先回复，看看你隐藏的内容
作者: nickychen 时间: 2013-6-21 22:33
作者: 云游 时间: 2013-6-21 22:36
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-21 00:31
我觉得这个跟咱们谈论的稍有不同，但又异曲同工
我们看它为什么不行
plants are more efficient at acqu ...
2；语法上两种可能都是存在的一个句子的，正确与否要以逻辑合理为前提。假如两种比较都成立的时候我们就不能这样使用介词短语than 而要使用连词than引导句子。”
第二点我尤其同意，在语法上两种都可能的前提下，我们同时要辅助以逻辑合理性加以判断。
这边的例子， I eat apple faster than you其实就是I eat apple faster than you（eat apple）的省略，它之所以是合理的省略，就是因为正常人的逻辑不会去想 I eat apple faster than (I eat) you的省略。 我们不会单纯因为有这样的语法上的可能性就去认为会有歧义，因为从逻辑上不存在（我吃你）的可能性。 I eat you，这是一种在正常人类社会体系下不大可能存在的表达。
但是Manhattan上有个句子：
I like cheese more than Yvette(人名). 这句话会有歧义，它既可以是 I like cheese more than (I like) Yvette也可以是 I like cheese more than Yvette(like cheese)的省略。因为 Yvette like cheese和 I like Yvette都是无论在语法和逻辑上都可能正确的表达，而不像 I eat apple faster than you中只有一种可能的理解，所以这句话会产生歧义。
同样，那位同学所例举的例子，the nerve lining of a mouse's nose contains roughly the same number of olfactory receptorsas that of a human's nose...
我们之所以不会考虑到时拿number of olfactory receptors和number of human's nose作比较，是因为我们读完句子以后便知道比较对象不可能是嗅觉接收器和人类鼻子数量的比较，同时该句子中有更好的比较，那就是那人类和老鼠的鼻子的nerve lining作比较。
扯了那么多，其实我想说的一个观点，一个句子到底是主语比较还是宾语比较，应该是我们做题时要通过语法和逻辑进行主观选择出来的，这应该是我们做比较题的第一个步骤。不知道你同意吗？
而我举的这个例子，
1. Plants are more efficient at acquiring carbon than fungi...语法上他只表达了plants吸收carbon比吸收fungi快，故错。
2. I eat apple faster than you. 语法上虽然只有两种可能，但是从逻辑上来说只有一种可能，故对。
3. I like cheese more than Yvette.无论是在语法上还是逻辑上都有两种可能，固ambigious.
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-21 22:39
云游 发表于 2013-6-21 22:36
2；语法上两种可能都是存在的一个句子的，正确与否要以逻辑合理为前提。假如两种比较都成立的时候我们就 ...
云游兄是回我的吗？
另；兄可否提供给我OG13-34题
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-22 03:25
云游 发表于 2013-6-21 22:36
2；语法上两种可能都是存在的一个句子的，正确与否要以逻辑合理为前提。假如两种比较都成立的时候我们就 ...
只是不同意这句话；这边的例子， I eat apple faster than you其实就是I eat apple faster than you（eat apple）的省略，它之所以是合理的省略
我这个贴子就是专门为了证明这不是省略的。
当然每个人的语法体系都不太相同，所以我觉得用自己觉得最舒服的方式理解就行。
只是我用这样的理论解起题非常得心应手，构建起的比较分类比他们的主语比较，宾语比较也更加容易操作
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-22 04:41
kiwifoodtown 发表于 2013-6-21 15:34
那好，您这句“句子变成了比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高 ...
那里去啦
作者: 云游 时间: 2013-6-22 11:47
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-22 03:25
只是不同意这句话；这边的例子， I eat apple faster than you其实就是I eat apple faster than ...
恩，大家的观点确实小有不同，不过此处是不是省略对我们真正做题影响不大，因为我们已经能够判断出比较的对象~
另，enkylios要OG13-34题做什么，那一题似乎和我们这里讨论的问题没多大关系啊~~
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-22 11:50
云游 发表于 2013-6-22 11:47
恩，大家的观点确实小有不同，不过此处是不是省略对我们真正做题影响不大，因为我们已经能够判断出比较的 ...
我己经有了，有个兄弟跟我讨论一个问题他引用了这道题，但是我找不到。
我把我和他的争论做了一个新的贴子
作者: 板栗在奋斗 时间: 2013-6-23 15:54
我来啦~~~
作者: 板栗在奋斗 时间: 2013-6-23 16:17
所以说最后一句是因为想突出nutritious and accessible.
she is as tall as me. 突出她像
she is as tall as i am. 突出高度像
和这里的区别是一样的。
我这样理解正确吗？
作者: 传说哥 时间: 2013-6-23 16:24
有点意思
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-23 17:35
板栗在奋斗 发表于 2013-6-23 16:17
所以说最后一句是因为想突出nutritious and accessible.
she is as tall as me. 突出她像
she is as tall a ...
as nutritious and accessible as a formal and an informa
as nutritious and as accessible
我自己认为这才是问题的关键
所以我认为你这题需要补出do来，
作者: kiwifoodtown 时间: 2013-6-24 12:21
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-21 15:37
B啊。云游兄问的是我对B怎么看
可是您对B句的理解有误啊，而您括号里的才是B句意思，而您所表达的恰恰是正确的原句的意思。
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-6-24 15:19
kiwifoodtown 发表于 2013-6-24 12:21
可是您对B句的理解有误啊，而您括号里的才是B句意思，而您所表达的恰恰是正确的原句的意思。 ...
比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高效）
我只所以用红色的标记就是为了说明这和括号里是一个意思啊
括号前有两层解读，但是我用括号括起来就是为了让你看到我后边那层意思
这就是为什么我后边要说深层的原因在于从来都是可以 主语宾语比较的啊
作者: hfwang 时间: 2013-6-24 19:23
看看这里说了点啥
lz很牛
作者: Laurielin 时间: 2013-6-26 22:59
前来膜拜~
作者: zhuangzhilingy 时间: 2013-6-27 21:04
顶，dddddddddddddddddddd
作者: zxppx 时间: 2013-7-1 16:54
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-24 15:19
比起fungi来plants 在获取carbon的时候更高效（plants 获取carbon比获取fungi高效）
我只所以用红色的标 ...
LZ, 原谅我这么久都没出现！我在CD上发现了一个帖子，关于比较的
http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-103101-1-1.html
另外，我在韦氏词典上发现，than不仅可以作为介词，也可以作为连词
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/than
所以，我对于你的见解还是有一定的怀疑
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-1 16:56
我贴子中没有任何地主否认than作连词啊，
只是我举的那个例子是处于介词词条中的。
另外我还有一个贴子是关于than的，事实上than何止可以作连词呢，语法学家认为它和that一样可以作关系代词的
作者: zxppx 时间: 2013-7-1 17:12
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-1 16:56
我贴子中没有任何地主否认than作连词啊，
只是我举的那个例子是处于介词词条中的。
另外我还有一个贴子是 ...
我看到的than作为连词的词条里面的用法：
1.anywhere else than at home
2.older than I am
3.easier said than done
1a —used as a function word to indicate the second member or the member taken as the point of departure in a comparison expressive of inequality ; used with comparative adjectives and comparative adverbs <older than I am> <easier said than done> b —used as a function word to indicate difference of kind, manner, or identity ; used especially with some adjectives and adverbs that express diversity <anywhere else than at home>
介词的用法：
why should a man be better than me
After 200 years of innocent if occasional use, the preposition than was called into question by 18th century grammarians. Some 200 years of elaborate reasoning have led to these present-day inconsistent conclusions: than whom is standard but clumsy <T. S. Eliot, than whom nobody could have been more insularly English — Anthony Burgess>; than me may be acceptable in speech <a man no mightier than thyself or me — Shakespeare> <why should a man be better than me because he's richer than me — William Faulkner, in a talk to students>; than followed by a third-person objective pronoun (her, him, them) is usually frowned upon. Surveyed opinion tends to agree with these conclusions. Our evidence shows that than is used as a conjunction more commonly than as a preposition, that than whom is chiefly limited to writing, and that me is more common after the preposition than the third-person objective pronouns. In short, you can use than either as a conjunction or as a preposition.
而你在隐藏的部分中写道：PREP(介词） (用于形容词、副词的比较级之后，连接比较对象)比 You use than after a comparative adjective or adverb in order to link two parts of a comparison.
这和上面的连词的解释更加接近。
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-1 17:32
zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 17:12
我看到的than作为连词的词条里面的用法：
1.anywhere else than at home
2.older than I am
zxppx兄；
那不是我写的啊！那是词典中写的。
你可是查的韦氏词典还是？注意你的例句和我的例句不一样啊，你的例句或者接的是句子或者接的是动词所以你的例句中是连词是对的啊。
我的两个例句均引自权威词典，一条引自牛津，一条引自柯林斯大词典。
而且我的例句和I eat apple faster than you 几乎完全相同，但是你引用的例句实质已经变了，而且我在贴子中说了“如果非要补上后边的谓语是可以的，但是这会改变than的词性”
作者: zhuangzhilingy 时间: 2013-7-1 20:01
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作者: zxppx 时间: 2013-7-1 20:43
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-1 17:32
zxppx兄；
那不是我写的啊！那是词典中写的。
我现在比较纠结的是，其实感觉than的介词词性和like表示“比较”的时候一样，后面只能连接：代词和名词。而当than表示连词的时候，后面自然可以连接介词短语，但是问题是“当than表示连词的时候，后面能够接代词吗？”比如：I eat faster than you. 这个than可以是连词吗？
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-1 21:23
zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 20:43
我现在比较纠结的是，其实感觉than的介词词性和like表示“比较”的时候一样，后面只能连接：代词和名词。 ...
对这是关键，在这里显然介词要好，但是能不能把它当成连词后边省略了一堆呢？可能也可以吧。
作者: zxppx 时间: 2013-7-1 22:00
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-1 21:23
对这是关键，在这里显然介词要好，但是能不能把它当成连词后边省略了一堆呢？可能也可以吧。 ...
呵呵，就这样理解吧。当做连词应该不会错的
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-1 22:11
zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 22:00
呵呵，就这样理解吧。当做连词应该不会错的
但是我发现词典对这个问题比较慎重，几乎所有词典在连词的解释里都不会用这样的例子
作者: 包子不包子 时间: 2013-7-14 20:37
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作者: qzw88888 时间: 2013-7-25 05:49
enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-20 21:48
对于以下问题同样欢迎大家跟贴探讨
狗熊哥，又是我。针对你说的than做不做连词啊，介词啊什么，小弟看不懂。看看我这样从逻辑角度理解行不行。
当比较对象为something, 人之类的名词性对象，如果有需要就补出that/those（不需要补出动词）
Once positioned in space, the Hubble Space Telescope will capture light from sources twenty times fainter compared to those that can be detected by ground-based instruments.
(A) compared to those that can b detected
(B) compared to those they can detect
(C) than that can be detected
(D) than those that can be detected
(E) than those detecting
就是sources和souces的比较，补出those即可。
当比较对象为形容词或者副词的时候，看看句子里是否有3个名词，如果有三个名词是否有歧义，有歧义就补出helping verb(不一定是do/does)来消除歧义。
A large rise in the number of housing starts in the coming year should boost new construction dollars by several billion dollars, making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago.
(A) making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(B) and make the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(C) making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than it was five years ago
(D) to make the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(E) in making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than it as five years ago
三个名词，不确定这个five years是只5年前的rise还是5年前的health，所以要补出助动词was,从而同时补出主语
当比较对象为状语，平行即可。
One reason why more young people lose their virginity during the summer than at other times of the year undoubtedly is because school vacations give adolescents more free time.
(A) One reason why more young people lose their virginity during the summer than at other times of the year undoubtedly is because
(B) If young people lose their virginity more during the summer than other seasons, it is undoubtedly because
(C) One undoubtable reason that young people lose their virginity more during the summer than other times is
(D) One reason more young people lose their virginity during the summer than at other times of the year is undoubtedly that
(E) Young people lose their virginity more often during the summer undoubtedly because, for one reason
during the summer和other times的时间状语对比，平行即可。不用补出什么东西。
不知道以上理解对不对，可以可以用上考场
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-25 05:57
qzw88888 发表于 2013-7-25 05:49
狗熊哥，又是我。针对你说的than做不做连词啊，介词啊什么，小弟看不懂。看看我这样从逻辑角度理解行不行 ...
In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.
(A) Americans were killed as
(B) Americans were killed than
(C) Americans were killed than those who
(D) more Americans were killed as there
(E) more Americans were killed as those who
先看你总结的第一条；跟你刚问的问题就有冲突；
我们把上边的题改成；In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times more Americans were killed than would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day. 这个句子仍然对
这里就是人的比较并没有加those 而且补出了谓语。
事实上加those that一般是因为前边的名词有定语
如果你觉得我这个题是改动的不放心，我记得有个什么“more baby were born to women over thirty than under it 这时你看也没有用those
作者: qzw88888 时间: 2013-7-25 06:03
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-25 05:57
In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, ...
哦对了，我想起来一点要补充，曼哈顿里说到，如果主语是一样的话，不用加those/that，只有当比较的后半部分是new copy的时候，才要加those/that。也Match了你说的当有定语的时候，补出those, that。 这样说的话，我的第一条总结是不是合理了
作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-25 06:04
qzw88888 发表于 2013-7-25 05:49
狗熊哥，又是我。针对你说的than做不做连词啊，介词啊什么，小弟看不懂。看看我这样从逻辑角度理解行不行 ...
第三条；这个总结的很抽像。那看怎么叫平行了
你看下边这道题，如果只从平行来考虑我觉得恐怕并不容易作对；
Although Napoleon's army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.
(A) they had in their previous campaigns
(B) their previous campaigns had had
(C) they had for any previous campaign
(D) in their previous campaigns
(E) for any previous campaign 正确
作者: qzw88888 时间: 2013-7-25 06:10
enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-25 06:04
第三条；这个总结的很抽像。那看怎么叫平行了
你看下边这道题，如果只从平行来考虑我觉得恐怕并不容易作 ...
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作者: enkyklios 时间: 2013-7-25 06:14
qzw88888 发表于 2013-7-25 06:10
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狗熊君，每次看您的帖子都有新收获。之前做题的时候我就看到那么多 比较结构，解释出来总是什么固定搭配啥的。但是固定搭配的中的词也是有词性的，要是搞不清楚词性，句子稍微复杂一点 就解释不通了。感觉您的分析是针对一点错误理解做剖析的。可否把您的这一点分析展开成一套做题的体系？加入as，likely，more神马的。。十分期待啊。。。。
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您说这句话 不是因为 谓语数不一样，所以需要补出。。那您的看法是？第一个as为adv，第二个as为conj。不是吗？
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