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作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 17:21
标题: 我现在的背景申请NA Top3有可能么？
本人的背景
教育背景
英国中游本科
计算机专业

英国top3硕士
信息专业

成绩都还可以

工作背景
英国互联网企业从事开发经验1年
上海科技公司创业一年
top3美国IB 技术部开发经验2年

现在想为未来从技术转PE或者咨询做准备，有考虑去美国读个top MBA，假设GMAT能达到商学院平均分数，从纸面背景来看，我有可能得到面试机会么？

作者: cliffzhu 时间: 2013-5-22 17:27
do you have leadership experiences and enough money to pay for MBA?

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 17:58
making the assumption that I can afford the fees.
I do have leadership exp. from the startup experience, but only a year

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 17:59

cliffzhu 发表于 2013-5-22 17:27
do you have leadership experiences and enough money to pay for MBA?

making the assumption that I can afford the fees.
I do have leadership exp. from the startup experience, but only a year

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-22 18:07
For top 3, no one can say yes, and there is always chance for anyone.
This kind of question is meaningless.
But your background is certainly not competitive among those applicants

作者: xjtuxb 时间: 2013-5-22 18:10
感觉亮点不多啊
楼主再挖掘挖掘？

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 18:19

xjtuxb 发表于 2013-5-22 18:10
感觉亮点不多啊
楼主再挖掘挖掘？

经历这个东西有就是有，没有短时间内也很难改变，我对自我的认识应该算是比较客观的，能拿出手的东西也就使名校硕士，科技企业创业经验以及华尔街投行工作经验，我本来的计划是做到vp再考虑读mba,但是对于一个技术转型PE的职业发展路线来说，到时候会不会太晚了？（7年工作经验）所以考虑提前读MBA，现在担心的就是纸面竞争力不够的问题

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 18:24

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-22 18:07
For top 3, no one can say yes, and there is always chance for anyone.
This kind of question is meani ...

as a newbie to MBA , knowing that my background is not very competitive is the meaning of this post to me

作者: xjtuxb 时间: 2013-5-22 18:25

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-22 18:19
经历这个东西有就是有，没有短时间内也很难改变，我对自我的认识应该算是比较客观的，能拿出手的东西也就 ...

呵呵，随便建议的
工作年限绝对是够了，关键看Ad怎么看待你的工作内容了
这年头转型不容易啊，祝福吧

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 18:36

xjtuxb 发表于 2013-5-22 18:25
呵呵，随便建议的
工作年限绝对是够了，关键看Ad怎么看待你的工作内容了
这年头转型不容易啊，祝福吧 ...

就是这个担心，不知道他们对技术背景太强的candidate会不会比较排斥

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-22 18:48

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-22 18:24
as a newbie in MBA world, knowing that my background is not very competitive is the meaning of thi ...

It takes me very long time to understand. You should pay a lot on your gramma when taking GMAT...

作者: 斑点狗1985 时间: 2013-5-22 18:56
LZ在英国具体是什么样的互联网公司工作？还有在上海的科技公司创业1年，这家公司大致做到什么规模，LZ在里面是什么样的role？

目前看来LZ的4年工作经验里，最长的就是在IB做Tech的2年，对于申请b-school来讲多少有点点niche，或者说不是特别的典型，当然这或许不是件坏事，不过还是会建议尽量把分数考高（比如G750+），当然就像已经有同学提到的，HSW确实不是这么容易就能说是否能拿面试，以及是否能拿offer的，所以真想去Top3的话，把你能改变的做到最后，然后就去申吧。

Btw问一句，LZ是男生是吧？拿的是大陆护照吗？如果两个皆是，那在这方面不能占到什么advantage

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-22 19:09

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-22 18:48
It takes me very long time to understand. You should pay a lot on your gramma when taking GMAT...

Lol, thanks for ur advice, surely i will pay more attention on my gramma in more serious occasion, and... thanks for correcting ur 'typo'

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-23 17:40

斑点狗1985 发表于 2013-5-22 18:56
LZ在英国具体是什么样的互联网公司工作？还有在上海的科技公司创业1年，这家公司大致做到什么规模，LZ在里 ...

lz在英国一开始在的是online education的公司，后来和另一个partner在上海做的是在线娱乐，公司最大时候有15人吧，基本都归lz管，主要抓项目开发和技术指导，对外头衔是CTO，说大也不大，其实我也觉得跟IBD or consulting背景的同学相比行业差距大了些，那是不是tech转MBA-〉PE这条路其实并不是非常可行？如果把top3放到top 10,可能性会不会又大点儿？其实除了harvard，是不是standford更加适合技术背景略强的人（毕竟近硅谷），个人的感觉，欢迎交流赐教。

LZ目前是chinese passport,不过有永居，国籍嘛。。。。犹豫ing...国籍对上商学院还会有影响的？

作者: 决不再失去 时间: 2013-5-23 17:48
我觉得楼主这样的背景有个MBA作为职业转型确实是非常有用，可以转去做IBD TMT或者PE/VE。但是没必要非盯着TOP3，个人感觉TOP10已然足够，因为你去面试任何TOP IB/PE/VC有个TOP10 MBA已然足够，之后就是看自己面试能力了。

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-29 20:05

决不再失去发表于 2013-5-23 17:48
我觉得楼主这样的背景有个MBA作为职业转型确实是非常有用，可以转去做IBD TMT或者PE/VE。但是没必要非盯着T ...

谢谢！

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-29 20:18

决不再失去发表于 2013-5-23 17:48
我觉得楼主这样的背景有个MBA作为职业转型确实是非常有用，可以转去做IBD TMT或者PE/VE。但是没必要非盯着T ...

I really do not think this kind of background can get into top pe firms, even with Wharton MBA. I am not talking about tiny pe firms in China. LZ should target on IB first for several years and then get to PE.

作者: 2014 时间: 2013-5-29 20:40
you should do your gmat first then decide what schools you can apply to

作者: cd11223 时间: 2013-5-29 21:21
这个背景想进TOP3有点难，当然you may still have a chance.
Money is not that important, you can get a loan easily if you can get the offer from TOP3.
特别是你想转PE。没什么大亮点，你要深挖下你的亮点，link your past experiences.

作者: 决不再失去 时间: 2013-5-29 22:34

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-29 20:18
I really do not think this kind of background can get into top pe firms, even with Wharton MBA. I ...

TOP PE可能有些困难，但为啥非要走TOP PE，TOP的就那么几个。其他二三档的也不错啊~而且你有了TOP10 MBA，如果SUMMER INTERN找的好，都有可能的。

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-29 22:44

决不再失去发表于 2013-5-29 22:34
TOP PE可能有些困难，但为啥非要走TOP PE，TOP的就那么几个。其他二三档的也不错啊~而且你有了TOP10 MBA ...

。。。不top不行啊，大陆不top的话平台不行，收入太低，完全不是PE的意思。。。至少弘毅、鼎辉、中信产等如果之前没有IB或者PE经验，不好进，即使你是M7 MBA

作者: 决不再失去 时间: 2013-5-29 23:23

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-29 22:44
。。。不top不行啊，大陆不top的话平台不行，收入太低，完全不是PE的意思。。。至少弘毅、鼎辉、中信产等 ...

所以他这样背景比较适合TMT的VC，VC不大要求IB背景。

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-29 23:39

决不再失去发表于 2013-5-29 23:23
所以他这样背景比较适合TMT的VC，VC不大要求IB背景。

嗯，vc不错

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 00:02

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-29 20:18
I really do not think this kind of background can get into top pe firms, even with Wharton MBA. I ...

thx..PE is just one of my career options, im pretty curious what kind of bg is prefered in top tier PEs? I know IBD ->PE is quite a classic routine, but how abt those non-C level industry individuals? no chance at all?

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 00:19

2014 发表于 2013-5-29 20:40
you should do your gmat first then decide what schools you can apply to

thx, but im thinking otherwise, i doubt if the application is totally depended on gmat score, just checked HWS avg gmat score is around 720, i dont think getting a fair high score is too difficult to me, im just talking abt my on-paper competivitiness(gmat excluded) here, or one step further - how possible a top3 MBA degree will help me breaking into top PE?

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 00:32

cd11223 发表于 2013-5-29 21:21
这个背景想进TOP3有点难，当然you may still have a chance.
Money is not that important, you can get a ...

hm...all my exp are in tech world, does it matter how good i perform in tech(related) roles?

will i get greater chance by telling that i was promoted from analyst to asso within 15 months in a top3 US IB and used to supervise 15 ppl and 3 projects? or how abt being the founder of a tech company which generates 3m RMB revenue anually? i know it's not a big deal compare to those hardcore folks here, but still i think not everyone has done it?

will an oxbridge master helps?

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-30 10:56

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-30 00:02
thx..PE is just one of my career options, im pretty curious what kind of bg is prefered in top tie ...

Previous IB or Industry experience 3-5 years can get you to top PE in China. Of course your background must be strong, always big names. For global top PE, you need even stronger names. I heard for KKR, if there is any name on your resume that is not Harvard, Stanford, GS, Mckinsey, etc. Your resume will be quickly deleted.

作者: dcc617 时间: 2013-5-30 10:57

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-30 00:19
thx, but im thinking otherwise, i doubt if the application is totally depended on gmat score, just ...

You can certainly try to apply to Top 3 with a GMAT of 720. Good luck with that.

作者: unepomme 时间: 2013-5-30 21:43

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-29 20:18
I really do not think this kind of background can get into top pe firms, even with Wharton MBA. I ...

that's right, top PE firms block the hiring from B-school, they want someone from top IB, know the market, and work really hard, I heard that the K one's China head always call desk phone at mid night, to check the newbies are still in office or not!!!

作者: unepomme 时间: 2013-5-30 21:44

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-29 22:44
。。。不top不行啊，大陆不top的话平台不行，收入太低，完全不是PE的意思。。。至少弘毅、鼎辉、中信产等 ...

the big three in China are more focusing on the consulting background than IB

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 22:10

unepomme 发表于 2013-5-30 21:43
that's right, top PE firms block the hiring from B-school, they want someone from top IB, know th ...

that's sick lol i thought IBD ppl move to PE to get a slightly better work life balance, guess i am not quite right...:S
considering VC might be more suitable and realizable for me, that seeing talks here, thx

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 22:12

unepomme 发表于 2013-5-30 21:44
the big three in China are more focusing on the consulting background than IB

so non-IBD/Consulting background ppl dont have chance at all?

作者: unepomme 时间: 2013-5-30 22:38

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-30 22:12
so non-IBD/Consulting background ppl dont have chance at all?

of course you have the chance, but let them to find you value, when you join these firms, you need to find out what you could bring to the firms, the deal sources or the capital or just hard working attitude? one of my friend worked for HONY before, as she do not have so many contacts, she need to work supper hard!

作者: unepomme 时间: 2013-5-30 22:40

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-30 22:10
that's sick lol i thought IBD ppl move to PE to get a slightly better work life balance, guess i a ...

yeah, I think VC are better, and could gain entrepreneur experiences there, why not.

作者: unepomme 时间: 2013-5-30 22:46

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-30 10:56
Previous IB or Industry experience 3-5 years can get you to top PE in China. Of course your backgr ...

totally agree, plus the JP MORGAN, the Asian head is from Booth and JP MORGAN.

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 23:37

dcc617 发表于 2013-5-30 10:56
Previous IB or Industry experience 3-5 years can get you to top PE in China. Of course your backgr ...

hm....not sure if this is too extreme...but mostly agree with what you are trying to say here, heard from a frd in IDG saying similar thing

作者: hy10121012 时间: 2013-5-30 23:38

unepomme 发表于 2013-5-30 22:46
totally agree, plus the JP MORGAN, the Asian head is from Booth and JP MORGAN.

Glad to see JPM is in the list lol, btw, thanks for comment on another of my post

作者: unepomme 时间: 2013-5-31 08:14

hy10121012 发表于 2013-5-30 23:38
Glad to see JPM is in the list lol, btw, thanks for comment on another of my post

welcome la, good luck! by the way, I see some of my friend switched their career from IT to general management control, seems interesting too!

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