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作者: beautywawa    时间: 2004-12-18 10:35
标题: 天山 3-Q2

天山 3-Q2 verbal-SC


As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.


A.         ….


B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes


C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes


D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing


E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes


我是選C,但我想問的是,中間從heavily開始算是插入句嗎?以及heavily與staying這樣算平衡嗎?


作者: Iawfy    时间: 2004-12-18 18:11

中间那句应该不是插入句, 如果去掉中间的句子,那整个句子的意思就不通了.

heavily和staying没有关系, heavily是修饰barb的, 只是barbed和staying的用法不平衡.

我觉得这道题的选项是D, 对吗?


作者: beautywawa    时间: 2004-12-18 19:57

D中The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee..有點改變暸句子前後文的關係..

但是有點懂了,,中間 heavily與staying是在講stinger的,,應該是吧


作者: Springfield    时间: 2004-12-18 22:31
以下是引用beautywawa在2004-12-18 10:35:00的发言:

天山 3-Q2 verbal-SC


As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.



A.         ….



B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes

mm如果用which放在heavily之前,同时补出助动词,那么就简单了;过去分词和现在粉刺并列修饰前面的名词没有问题(虽然ETS强调对比,并列的一致性,但只要逻辑表达没有问题也是可以的,记得GWD上面有一道SC,是什么植物 or 草原与鸟比较的,用的就是like;),记得是OG还是XDF上面有类似的题目,可以去搜索一下;



D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing



E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



我是選C,但我想問的是,中間從heavily開始算是插入句嗎?以及heavily與staying這樣算平衡嗎?



作者: beautywawa    时间: 2004-12-18 23:09
謝謝,,,了解了,,原來是那種過去分詞以及現在分詞同時存在的關係
作者: P_GMAT    时间: 2005-1-15 09:44

天山 3-Q2 verbal-SC

As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.

A.         ….

B.          Asthe honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted,with the result that the act of stinging causes

C.          Thehoneybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted,results in the fact that the act of stinging causes

D.          Theheavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, andresults in the act of stinging causing

E.          The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it isinserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes

我觉得这道题应该选E,请大家指教。 C和E的不同之处在于C的主干是Stinger...results in the fact that ...
E的主干是Stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is 这整一个特征事实with the result that ...
关键在于是“蜇刺”导致了后面的结果,还是“蜇刺”的这些特点(heavily barbed, stay where it is)导致了后文的结果。鉴于ETS总喜欢考主谓逻辑意义上的搭配,我觉得E更合理点。
Longman上的参考例句:
1. with the result that
    Sara wasn't at school last week, with the result that she missed an important test. 是前面半句说的整个事实导致了后面缺考的结果。
2. result in something
    to make something happen
    ... an accident that resulted in the death of two passengers







作者: dashasha    时间: 2005-1-15 09:57

答案是D吗?我觉得其他都不对。


今天看到这道题,当然选C了。也不知道当时是怎么想的。


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作者: P_GMAT    时间: 2005-1-15 11:20
回dashasha,下载的文件里面给出的答案是C。
作者: franciscoliu    时间: 2005-1-16 09:29

我看过正确答案,应该是e。

a选项中“,”后是this,其目的是指代前面的全句,在这种情况下,可以的一种修改是变成with the result that 的形式,因此,才有b,d,


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2005-1-16 12:03
franciscoliu , 不知你的正确答案从何而来,是不是GWD现在又把答案改成E了。另外如果你有更准确地出处,再帮着看看E项中是staying还是stays, 因为这道题很久前有网友贴出过,当时给的是stays, 答案跟天山一样也是C,不过我现在倒是倾向于E.
作者: lilyzy    时间: 2005-1-16 16:29

我比较倾向选D, E的with 和 result重复.

继续讨论.


作者: smartdummy    时间: 2005-1-16 21:44
以下是引用P_GMAT在2005-1-15 9:44:00的发言:

天山 3-Q2 verbal-SC


As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.


A.         ….


B.          Asthe honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted,with the result that the act of stinging causes


C.          Thehoneybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted,results in the fact that the act of stinging causes


D.          Theheavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, andresults in the act of stinging causing

E.          The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it isinserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes

我觉得这道题应该选E,请大家指教。 C和E的不同之处在于C的主干是Stinger...results in the fact that ...
E的主干是Stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is 这整一个特征事实with the result that ...
关键在于是“蜇刺”导致了后面的结果,还是“蜇刺”的这些特点(heavily barbed, stay where it is)导致了后文的结果。鉴于ETS总喜欢考主谓逻辑意义上的搭配,我觉得E更合理点。
Longman上的参考例句:
1. with the result that
    Sara wasn't at school last week, with the result that she missed an important test. 是前面半句说的整个事实导致了后面缺考的结果。
2. result in something
    to make something happen
    ... an accident that resulted in the death of two passengers



I definitely support E.

C and D have the same illogical problem: no reason for the result. In C, honeybee's stinger...results...; how could a stinger results? In D, if therefore or and then is in place of and, D will be better, but still unclear in causing.


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2005-1-16 22:15
以下是引用lilyzy在2005-1-16 16:29:00的发言:

我比较倾向选D, E的with 和 result重复.


继续讨论.


E中的with the result that应该算是个短语,例:
Sara wasn't at school last week, with the result that she missed an important test.


作者: Maggieyin    时间: 2005-1-17 10:38

同意smartdummy, 感觉E比较好,盼继续讨论。


作者: cicilla    时间: 2005-1-17 11:59
同意E
作者: lilyzy    时间: 2005-1-17 18:38

如果with the result that没有问题, 我也同意选E. D中的it确实也指代不清.


作者: dashasha    时间: 2005-1-18 06:56
SORRY,是C,我傻了。
作者: dashasha    时间: 2005-1-18 07:05
E有个错误是,is staying应该改成stays
作者: kiki_zhang    时间: 2005-1-26 19:23

我的题目上是stays。

我也觉得应该选E。


作者: ckjy1234    时间: 2005-1-28 00:30

能问个问题吗?E。The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it isinserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes
这句话怎么翻译啊?特别是WITH后面的~~~~~~`是不是可以理解为 the result is caused by the act of stinging?谢谢咯~~~~~~~~~~


作者: yulin115    时间: 2005-1-30 02:37

I think I like E better


作者: xiao_zhutou    时间: 2005-1-30 04:16
同意E。C中的results in the fact that重覆罗嗦。
作者: totolau    时间: 2005-1-31 14:41

i prefer C

C中的 heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted这种修饰结构好像是ETS比较喜欢的。

另外,results in 比 with the result that 更简洁。

有一点我想问一下,D选项中的 ",and  results" 中and 与results只见是不是应该有代词啊?因为有个“,”?


作者: jackieduan    时间: 2005-1-31 21:39
", and" 后面似乎应该接句子
作者: stillwater    时间: 2005-2-11 06:41
E。The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it isinserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes

我的题目是这样的,不是staying而是stays,

楼主是抄错了,还是这题有两个版本


作者: Pudding    时间: 2005-2-21 00:14

C中的results in the fact that重覆罗嗦。

Agree! It's redundancy...


作者: anyname    时间: 2005-2-27 17:21
以下是引用beautywawa在2004-12-18 10:35:00的发言:

天山 3-Q2 verbal-SC


As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.



A.         ….



B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes



D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing



E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



我是選C,但我想問的是,中間從heavily開始算是插入句嗎?以及heavily與staying這樣算平衡嗎?



觉得E最好。


A. this 指代不清
B. 没有主句
C. 逻辑不通且awkward:The stinger results in...? 就像:His house, damaged in the earthquake, resulted in the fact that he had to live in a hotel. (lol, the wrong subject's blamed)
D. 逻辑不通(同C)且it指代歧义(bee or stinger?)
E.  with the result that比较wordy,如果是resulting that就完美了,但the best。


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作者: tuzq    时间: 2005-3-11 10:43
肯定选E了,stinger怎么自己会去cause呢
作者: huawang    时间: 2005-3-17 20:55

我觉得是D….

Cresults in the fact that…明显不对

E中是什么东西with??觉得with在这里的用法很怪


作者: zhbeaner    时间: 2005-4-8 09:54

Q2:
As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed, staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.
A. As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed, staying where it is inserted, this
results in the act of stinging causing
B. As the heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, with the
result that the act of stinging causes
C. The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in
the fact that the act of stinging causes
D. The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results
in the act of stinging causing
E. The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted, with the
result that the act of stinging causes

我的版本中是stays, 我觉的应该是E最好.


作者: autumn_leaves    时间: 2005-4-12 18:53

E with 作状语解释不通.前面是IS和STAYS两个动词,一个是状态,一个是动作,WITH怎么能伴随这两个动作表示一种结果??

我选D


作者: nowait    时间: 2005-4-18 23:02

please help translate the following 2 phrases:

1) the heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee


作者: nowait    时间: 2005-4-18 23:05

please help translate the following 2 phrases:

1) the heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee;

2) the honeybee's stinger is heavily barbed;

many thanks!


作者: cdoublesok    时间: 2005-4-20 20:05

我选c,

c 把插入语去掉后,这句话就比较完整,比较清楚.

the stinger 导致the fact.

e中的 with the result不是习惯用语

78.   The root systems of most flowering perennials either become too crowded, which results in loss in vigor, and spread too far outward, producing a bare center.

(A) which results in loss in vigor, and spread

(B) resulting in loss in vigor, or spreading

(C) with the result of loss of vigor, or spreading

(D) resulting in loss of vigor, or spreadD

(E) with a resulting loss of vigor, and spread

Choice A misuses which as a relative pronoun, which should refer to a specific noun rather than to the action of an entire clause. A also produces the unidiomatic and illogical construction either... and. Choice B properly uses a verb phrase (resulting...) instead of which to modify the action of the first clause and also correctly completes either with or, but the verbs following either and or are not parallel spreading must be spread to match become. Choice C is flawed by the nonparallel verb spreading and the wordy phrase that begins with the result of. Choice E is similarly wordy and uses and where or is required. Choice Dconcise, idiomatic, and parallel with the rest of the sentence—is best.


作者: charlesbibi    时间: 2005-4-21 04:09
e changes the original main-relative relationship of the original sentence
作者: leisure1221    时间: 2005-5-4 12:59

这道题哪个看着都有点别扭,错误大家也都分析了,不过矮子里选高个的话我觉得只能选c了, with the result that 在gmat里不是一种正确的表达形式


作者: anyname    时间: 2005-5-5 14:11

选项C和D说:

The honeybee’s stinger results in the fact ...

蜜蜂的针导致蜜蜂受致命伤的事实,逻辑不通。显然应该是蜜蜂的针刺进(敌人)体内这件事才能导致蜜蜂受致命伤,对吧。在GMAT中逻辑不通是绝不可姑息的致命错误,比歧义和wordy的罪大得多吧。其实这题五个选项都丑,就看谁罪小些。E也丑,with作独立成分,丑点但逻辑上还通,所以,我选E。


作者: tonyadidas    时间: 2005-5-5 19:45

wawa姐,我觉得barded与staying是平衡的。og尚有一道210做例证spawned与extending的平行。还有在大全中(题号真地想不起),originating与已过去分词,differring与一过去分词的平行(以姐姐的阅历一定有印象吧)。我以为分词的平行不在于非要用两个现在分词或是两个过去分词,而是要从逻辑上分析分词修饰的时间,主被动等细节。分词就可以平行表修饰,拿什么来平行看逻辑意思。


作者: BiteGmat    时间: 2005-5-6 17:02

为什么没人选A 啊!!

with不合适,stinger又不能result,不就剩下A了吗?

有支持A 的吗,请举手!!


作者: anyname    时间: 2005-5-8 12:51
以下是引用BiteGmat在2005-5-6 17:02:00的发言:

为什么没人选A 啊!!


with不合适,stinger又不能result,不就剩下A了吗?


有支持A 的吗,请举手!!


A基本肯定错的,我还没见过this指代句子对过的。


作者: BiteGmat    时间: 2005-5-9 22:34

我觉得这道题应该选E,请大家指教。 C和E的不同之处在于C的主干是Stinger...results in the fact that ...
E的主干是Stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is 这整一个特征事实with the result that ...
关键在于是“蜇刺”导致了后面的结果,还是“蜇刺”的这些特点(heavily barbed, stay where it is)导致了后文的结果。鉴于ETS总喜欢考主谓逻辑意义上的搭配,我觉得E更合理点。
Longman上的参考例句:
1. with the result that
    Sara wasn't at school last week, with the result that she missed an important test. 是前面半句说的整个事实导致了后面缺考的结果。
2. result in something
    to make something happen
    ... an accident that resulted in the death of two passengers

真是太精彩了!!开始怎么没看到呢,谢谢P-GAMT!!!


作者: Ivanchiang    时间: 2005-5-13 01:02
以下是引用cdoublesok在2005-4-20 20:05:00的发言:

我选c,

c 把插入语去掉后,这句话就比较完整,比较清楚.

the stinger 导致the fact.

e中的 with the result不是习惯用语

78.         The root systems of most flowering perennials either become too crowded, which results in loss in vigor, and spread too far outward, producing a bare center.

(A) which results in loss in vigor, and spread

(B) resulting in loss in vigor, or spreading

(C) with the result of loss of vigor, or spreading

(D) resulting in loss of vigor, or spreadD

(E) with a resulting loss of vigor, and spread

Choice A misuses which as a relative pronoun, which should refer to a specific noun rather than to the action of an entire clause. A also produces the unidiomatic and illogical construction either... and. Choice B properly uses a verb phrase (resulting...) instead of which to modify the action of the first clause and also correctly completes either with or, but the verbs following either and or are not parallel spreading must be spread to match become. Choice C is flawed by the nonparallel verb spreading and the wordy phrase that begins with the result of. Choice E is similarly wordy and uses and where or is required. Choice Dconcise, idiomatic, and parallel with the rest of the sentence—is best.


作者: littlewoman    时间: 2005-5-20 13:12
有没有NN出来说话的?给个结论吧

我选了E,第二题,对了答案发现错了,很伤心。
做这套题一共错了7个,前10题错了3个,杀人的心都有。。

C除了上面有人提到的逻辑问题外,好像句子重心也不太对头。如果改成:the honeybee's stinger is heavilybarded and stays where it is inserted, resulting in the fact that theact of sting causes...也要好点,有前后结果关心

即便这样resulting in the fact that the act of sting causes.还是不好,result in 后必须加名词,只好用多余的fact

with the result that就可以直接跟句子了



作者: 小女公子    时间: 2005-6-9 13:58
楼上已经很不错了,我错了10个,前十题错了3个……我选了D,现在觉得E就是好。。。。
作者: diehard    时间: 2005-6-9 14:53

As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.



A.         ….



B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes 这个选项结构最好,但“the fact that the act of stinging causes”真的不知在说什么



D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing 我选了这个选项,但stinger of the honeybee 实在不好,并且causing是个什么玩意,我也没搞明白



E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes 这个选项相当丑陋,不知为什么那么多人看中,is heavily barbed 是被动呀,不怪吗?is staying不怪吗?


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2005-6-14 21:51
以下是引用cdoublesok在2005-4-20 20:05:00的发言:

我选c,


c 把插入语去掉后,这句话就比较完整,比较清楚.


the stinger 导致the fact.


e中的 with the result不是习惯用语


78.   The root systems of most flowering perennials either become too crowded, which results in loss in vigor, and spread too far outward, producing a bare center.


(A) which results in loss in vigor, and spread


(B) resulting in loss in vigor, or spreading


(C) with the result of loss of vigor, or spreading


(D) resulting in loss of vigor, or spreadD


(E) with a resulting loss of vigor, and spread


Choice A misuses which as a relative pronoun, which should refer to a specific noun rather than to the action of an entire clause. A also produces the unidiomatic and illogical construction either... and. Choice B properly uses a verb phrase (resulting...) instead of which to modify the action of the first clause and also correctly completes either with or, but the verbs following either and or are not parallel spreading must be spread to match become. Choice C is flawed by the nonparallel verb spreading and the wordy phrase that begins with the result of. Choice E is similarly wordy and uses and where or is required. Choice Dconcise, idiomatic, and parallel with the rest of the sentence—is best.



OG只说with the result of不对,并没有说with the result that不对。Longman里也只有as a result of和with the result that,  而没有with the result of.


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2005-6-14 21:56
以下是引用diehard在2005-6-9 14:53:00的发言:

As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.



A.         ….



B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes 这个选项结构最好,但“the fact that the act of stinging causes”真的不知在说什么



D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing 我选了这个选项,但stinger of the honeybee 实在不好,并且causing是个什么玩意,我也没搞明白



E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes 这个选项相当丑陋,不知为什么那么多人看中,is heavily barbed 是被动呀,不怪吗?is staying不怪吗?


不知道楼主贴出的题目出自何处,但天山原题中的E是stays而不是staying。


作者: remona9t    时间: 2005-6-30 17:57
看来NN的意见也不统一,LES,携隐mm?你们都选啥?
作者: jerrold0023    时间: 2005-6-30 22:39
以下是引用beautywawa在2004-12-18 10:35:00的发言:

天山 3-Q2 verbal-SC


As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.



A.         ….



B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes



D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing



E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes



我是選C,但我想問的是,中間從heavily開始算是插入句嗎?以及heavily與staying這樣算平衡嗎?


趁着nn还没发话,我垫一句先。

A. 代词it指代一句话,不好。

B. 没有主句,不对。

C. 主语,伴随结构,谓宾。主句是The honeybee’s stinger results in the fact。

D. 主句是The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays ..., and results in the act of stinging ... 就是stinger导致了一个行为(act),句意不如C好。

E.  结尾的   ,with结构,不好。

比来比去,C合理。


作者: remona9t    时间: 2005-7-4 15:35
nn站出来吧!
作者: windlake    时间: 2005-7-8 02:39

支持E


答案在C,E之争,


C的逻辑意思不通,


在og中,只是with the result出现了两次(78,218),错在不符合题目要求,并没有说with the result that是错的,


根据gmat选最好的原则,及结构与逻辑优先的原则,我认为E是对的。


作者: jaccicywoo    时间: 2005-7-8 06:36
D is the best
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作者: evelyndream    时间: 2005-7-8 20:45

就要考試了NN們 請指教一下吧!!


作者: yukon    时间: 2005-7-14 10:34
以下是引用jerrold0023在2005-6-30 22:39:00的发言:


趁着nn还没发话,我垫一句先。

A. 代词it指代一句话,不好。

B. 没有主句,不对。

C. 主语,伴随结构,谓宾。主句是The honeybee’s stinger results in the fact。

D. 主句是The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays ..., and results in the act of stinging ... 就是stinger导致了一个行为(act),句意不如C好。

E.  结尾的   ,with结构,不好。

比来比去,C合理。



As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed, staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.


A. As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed, staying where it is inserted, this
results in the act of stinging causing
B. As the heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, with the
result that the act of stinging causes
C. The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in
the fact that the act of stinging causes
D. The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results
in the act of stinging causing
E. The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted, with the
result that the act of stinging causes


A有什么错误?是SVO,doing,SVO这种形式下doing的指代会有歧义吧?this可以只代一句话吗?


作者: ring_cheng    时间: 2005-7-15 11:07

TO YUKON 指示代词如this/that/those/these/which只可指代出现过的具体的东东,不可以指代一句话的。


作者: xinfaxian    时间: 2005-7-15 11:29

为什么c逻辑不通啊?没有觉得不通啊?


e 的with the result 好像不是ets喜欢的吧?


作者: crystal2005    时间: 2005-7-19 21:13

顶,期待NN的出现。。。。。


作者: joeysue    时间: 2005-7-27 00:19

不知道gigi会不会路过看看…………


作者: bobochen    时间: 2005-8-7 16:25

那麽nn们,正确答案是e还是c?


作者: nickt    时间: 2005-8-7 20:26

我选C.感觉E读起来好"白",有"run on"的感觉.C的修饰层次清晰.


作者: jishuiyu510    时间: 2005-8-24 13:28
天哪!看了这么长的帖子,都没NN出来给个准信儿~
作者: michellechang    时间: 2005-8-30 13:51

期待大牛!


我觉得还是要以意思为重,如果逻辑意思不对,结构再好看也没用


支持E!!CD的主语都是 stinger,不能导致蜜蜂死亡,只有叮人的动作才能做result的主语


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作者: peeeepy    时间: 2005-9-8 02:20
支持E,原句的意思就是说the stinger stays at where it is asserted这个行为导致了死亡,只是语法表述出了问题,所以c将原句意思改了,当然错了
作者: 思谦    时间: 2005-9-9 20:26

请确认呀,到底是C还是E?


我选C


作者: wwwhahchn    时间: 2005-9-10 16:09
逻辑永远是第一位的,选E
作者: Avantasia    时间: 2005-9-10 19:22

这题我现在选D,争来争去就是集中那么几个点上面:


1. D到底逻辑有没有逻辑意思错误?


我的理解是一点都没有,看一个OG题目:


The only way for growers to salvage frozen citrus is to process them quickly into juice concentrate before they rot when warmer weather returns.


(A)   to process them quickly into juice concentrate before they rot when warmer weather returns


(B)   if they are quickly processed into juice concen­trate before warmer weather returns to rot them


(C)   for them to be processed quickly into juice concentrate before the fruit rots when warmer weather returns


(D)   if the fruit is quickly processed into juice concen­trate before they rot when warmer weather returns


(E)    to have it quickly processed into juice concentrate before warmer weather returns and rots the fruit


For parallelism, the linking verb is should link two infinitives: The only way to salvage ... is to process. Choice A begins with an infinitive, but the plural pronouns them and they do not agree with the singular noun citrus. Choices B, C, and D do not begin with an infinitive, and all present pronoun errors: the plural pronouns cannot grammatically refer to citrus or fruit, nor can they refer to farmers without absurdity. The best choice, E, has parallel infinitives and uses fruit to refer unambiguously to citrus. E also expresses the cause-and-effect relationship between the return of warmer weather and the rotting of the fruit; A, C, and D merely describe these events as contemporaneous.


”and“在OG里面说明白了可以表示一种因果联系,大家可以先好好读读E,读三遍再读这题的D:The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing,and在里面是表示一种逻辑上面的因果关系,逻辑非常的通顺,不要割裂开前面的where it is inserted直接看后面,那样逻辑肯定不对,把选项看完整。


2. E为什么不对?


主要原因是罗嗦,能直接用动词result说的清清楚楚,用介宾结构我认为是不对的。


作者: babypace    时间: 2005-9-11 02:36
D里面, and results in the act of stinging causing 是不对的。sting又导致了the act of stinging?
作者: fatlara    时间: 2005-9-14 15:56

E.          The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it isinserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes


主干是:The h’s stinger is barbed and staying


这里没有明显的标志要使用现在进行式is staying吧~~~~~~呵呵


而且,with the result怎么感觉都怪怪的说~


呵呵~~偶 选 C


作者: maxine_c    时间: 2005-9-14 21:06

看了前面的帖子,我想可能是每个人下载的天山第三套题中的E选项不同,导致大家有点误会


我下载的题中E选项是


E.          The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it isinserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes


所以我选E,理由如下:


1、原题的意思是蜜蜂的刺倒勾并留在扎入的地方,这件事导致了后面的(刺人使得蜜蜂留下很大的创伤)


C的意思是蜜蜂刺本身导致了后面的事,不符合原意


2C中的result in the fact that是一个罗嗦的表达,只需要说result in that即可


E中,with the result that的意思是“结果是, 因此, 从而”相当于连词,而且句意也符合原文


而很多人的E选项stays 变成了staying,所以他们选C


我认为在这两种不同的情况下,两队人都选择了optimal的答案


作者: wennier    时间: 2005-9-16 00:16

顶一下,我也选E,排除C也是因为逻辑原因。


作者: gmat740    时间: 2005-9-16 21:38

C


MY KEYBOARD IS NOT AVAILABLE


作者: sammaijgd    时间: 2005-9-17 14:52
我认为还是选E
作者: stella307wy    时间: 2005-9-17 18:24

严重支持E,stinger 怎么去result??


有最终答案吗?



恐怖,怎么争议题真么多啊?


作者: rosebudxiaojie    时间: 2005-9-18 13:41
以下是引用jnlvo在2005-6-14 21:51:00的发言:


OG只说with the result of不对,并没有说with the result that不对。Longman里也只有as a result of和with the result that,  而没有with the result of.



同意, with the result of虽然结构上不好,但至少不错,而OG里那道题干脆就是词组with the result of 根本不对.


语法做到最后是逻辑大于一切,C的逻辑明显有问题


强烈支持E


作者: dearjane    时间: 2005-9-22 12:42

晕倒~看了8页还没有答案!


我觉得逻辑上应该选E,有没有with the result一定错的说法?


作者: dearjane    时间: 2005-9-22 16:49

又查了一下OG


看这道Og题似乎得到ETS认为with the result 表达极罗嗦的结论:


78.  The root systems of most flowering perennials either become too crowded, which results in loss in vigor, and spread too far outward, producing a bare center.


(A) which results in loss in vigor, and spread


(B) resulting in loss in vigor, or spreading


(C) with the result of loss of vigor, or spreading


(D) resulting in loss of vigor, or spread


(E) with a resulting loss of vigor, and spread


Key:D


Choice C is flawed by the nonparallel verb spreading and the wordy phrase that begins with the result of.


不知道大家是不是由此得到了with the result of不好的结论。我觉得with结构的确不如用动名词更简洁。但这只是一个相对错误。C的问题是stinger...results in the fact that the act of stinging causes die.而不是stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted 导致死亡。C的逻辑问题不可以原谅,so still vote for E~ 如果有非常完美的答案出现才可排除E,因为E在逻辑和语法上都至少是正确的。


作者: fatlara    时间: 2005-10-2 11:11

GWD里面的一道题目和这个一样吧~~


我改选E---如果E里面是 stays 而不是 staying的话~


C的逻辑的确实不对的.



TO 楼上mm,


前面的讨论好像也说了, og说 with the result of wordy


但是没有说 with the result that wordy~~


两个是不一样的吧~~


E IS BETTER



作者: fatlara    时间: 2005-10-2 11:13

谁知道这是GWD的哪一道题...?


作者: mmfoolish    时间: 2005-10-3 12:09

谁认识什么美国人,问问他们的意见如何?


作者: 爱无伤    时间: 2005-10-13 10:13

同意选E,C的逻辑怎么想也想不通.


作者: shadowfax    时间: 2005-10-26 11:43

D 是不对的.


The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted,


it 指代不清. it -> honeybee 还是 it-> stinger



作者: z520m    时间: 2005-10-28 00:32
D一定不对,逗号分开要用一句完整的句子,所以D错。D只有动词,要共用一个主语不能有逗号,这个是gmat的官方解释!
作者: scorp_w    时间: 2005-10-28 17:57

我疯了!公说公有理,婆说婆有理!我强烈同意答案CE之间!但到底选什么!疯了!疯了!


作者: stella307wy    时间: 2005-11-5 18:31
以下是引用z520m在2005-10-28 0:32:00的发言:
D一定不对,逗号分开要用一句完整的句子,所以D错。D只有动词,要共用一个主语不能有逗号,这个是gmat的官方解释!


是吗?我怎么没听说过呢?


为什么不能用呢?记得有一道GWD就是逗号隔开,并且是没有主语啊?晕了我


作者: leonchan    时间: 2005-11-7 16:50

C. The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that ....


划线部分是一个非限定修饰,而非限定修饰只表示这个整体的特点(限定修饰是“整体中的局部”概念);因此此句实际上在说,“所有的”stinger results in the fact that .... 这是荒谬的(句子的主干The honeybee’s stinger results in the fact that .... 不也就在这么说么?)


E. The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted, with the result that ...


", with"结构在句末通常是歧义,因为可以就近修饰也可以修饰主语(谓语)表伴随;however,在本句中,", with"结构只能修饰主语(谓语)表伴随,因此没有歧义。


6楼关于with the result that和result in something 的区别也很有说服力。


Wait for more comments.


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作者: DARRENMA    时间: 2005-11-7 18:13

C.                The honeybee’s stinger(刺), heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes  the bee to sustain a fatal injury.       best!!!


D.               The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, (逗号错)and results in the act of stinging causing  1 逗号多余!!因为主语相同;2 act of sth doing sth.... 不爽,用从句更好。


E.              The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying (明显错)where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes     


选C


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作者: leonchan    时间: 2005-11-8 01:21
回楼上,题目是“stays”,你的版本有误,请查看原始TS PDF文件。
作者: 香香茶    时间: 2005-11-18 13:16

逻辑大于一切,因此我选E。


作者: coffemug    时间: 2005-12-15 04:56

I just asked my co-worker who is an American and he chose D.  But I don't think D is the final conclusion, because the format of D might fit the way people would say it, but may still have some grammar errors.


I still prefer E.   As there is not NN to come up with the authorative answer, I will stay with E.


作者: brent_zhang    时间: 2005-12-21 14:37
看了这么多NN的讨论,觉得还是逻辑重要,选E了
作者: icare1    时间: 2006-1-14 22:26
D中的结构平行(stays and results),results in 也比with the result that更prefered.
作者: GMAT阿驴    时间: 2006-3-5 15:03
同意C  E改变了句子的重心
作者: superstar    时间: 2006-3-19 22:22

A.         ….  this不能指代前面整个句子的意思



B.          As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes     句子没有主干



C.          The honeybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results in the fact that the act of stinging causes   逻辑错误,不是stinger results in,而是整个前面句子导致



D.          The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing  


stinger导致了一个行为(act),句意不好




E.           The honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes


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作者: kevinchaung    时间: 2006-4-17 20:44
句子中任何分词结构及定语成分是都可以去掉的,所以C明显逻辑错误。
作者: utkane    时间: 2006-4-28 15:16

有没有NN帮忙解决一下,争议很久了,CDE


作者: amber0919    时间: 2006-5-2 14:41

我觉得选D.


C wordy


E.with不明.


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作者: jocelyn_z2002    时间: 2006-5-13 03:08
E
作者: jocelyn_z2002    时间: 2006-5-13 03:11
标题: [讨论]
with the result that
结果是, 因此, 从而
作者: handsong    时间: 2006-5-20 23:03
赫赫,E,无疑问
作者: gldp    时间: 2006-5-29 14:12

我选D为正确答案.

A中,as与this results in的意义重复;

B中,as与with the rusult that的意义重复;

C中,results的逻辑主语错误;

E中,GMAT中动词rusults优于介词短语with the result;

D正确的原因:

1,and表示前一句的结果.因此RUSULTS的逻辑主语正确.

2,the heavbily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays的表示方法比原句更简洁有效的表达了honeybee的俩个特征.

3,in the act of stinging causing...有效表达了honeybee的前俩个特征共同造成的第三个特征stinging.进而通过ING短语解释了这个一般性特征;而D中的the act of stinging causes改变了cause的主语.因为是stinging而非act引起bee to sustain a fatal injury. 






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