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标题: 求助OG13 SC 85题 [打印本页]

作者: hpnew07 时间: 2013-4-11 00:29
标题: 求助OG13 SC 85题
原题如下：

OG13 SC 85
According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.
A. like that of earlier generations
B. as that for earlier generations
C. just as earlier generations did
D. as have earlier generations
E. as it was of earlier generations

正确答案是E，OG的解释是：“This sentence compares a single goal shared by generations. The second part of the sentence must have the same structure as the first part: a clause with a subject and a verb...”. 这个可以理解。但是既然是compare a single goal，原句中的that可以指代the goal吧，这样直接比较为什么不可以？望大家指点

作者: bejamin1111 时间: 2013-4-11 07:20
that没有清晰的指代,指代majority的嫌疑很大。以下是ron更为详细的解释:
'that of earlier generations' is a problem. Specifically, 'that of' doesn't have a clear referent, because there's no strong parallel structure to determine it anymore. It could conceivably stand for 'goal', 'majority', or perhaps even 'freestanding house' or 'land'. And if you go by the best possible parallelism, 'that of' seems to refer to a majority, because that's the word placed right before '...OF young adults' (which seems to work in parallel with '...OF earlier generations').

关于As and like的区别：
As:用于比较动词或事情发生的方式(通常是整句话)
like用于比较名词

作者: cycbill 时间: 2013-4-11 09:59
基于三点：（1）“—…—”前面的意群及连词although；（2）“—…—”的意思及作用（—…—结构一般用于解释前文）；（3）“—…—”后面句子的意思及具有完整的主谓宾结构。
推断：“—…—”前面应该作为以although开头从句-->要求完整的主谓宾结构；“—…—”后面应该是以heirlooms为主语的主句。
而从“—…—”部分的意思来看，they应该是指heirloom tomatoes，而且应该紧跟在appeare less appetizing … cousins这个意群后面，那么although从句的主谓结构就应该是heirloom tomatoes appear less … cousins。
although从句的主谓结构有了，grow from seeds …previous year就只能作为状语插入到其中，grow变成grown，就有了B选项。

作者: hpnew07 时间: 2013-4-11 19:29

bejamin1111 发表于 2013-4-11 07:20
that没有清晰的指代,指代majority的嫌疑很大。以下是ron更为详细的解释:
'that of earlier generations' i ...

Thanks a lot! This makes more sense

作者: hpnew07 时间: 2013-4-11 19:29

cycbill 发表于 2013-4-11 09:59
基于三点：（1）“—…—”前面的意群及连词although；（2）“—…—”的意思及作用（—…—结构一般用于解 ...

你确定你是在解释我这道题吗？？？

作者: xunzlyx 时间: 2013-8-16 16:17

bejamin1111 发表于 2013-4-11 07:20
that没有清晰的指代,指代majority的嫌疑很大。以下是ron更为详细的解释:
'that of earlier generations' i ...

直接贴出Ron的完整版

That sentence doesn't really cut it. Here's why:

The correct choice in the original post has a very clear parallel structure: is still a goal of a majority of young adults, as it was (a goal) of earlier generations. Because of the strong parallelism, there's nothing else that the end phrase could possibly refer to.

In your most recent sentence, however, 'that of earlier generations' is a problem. Specifically, 'that of' doesn't have a clear referent, because there's no strong parallel structure to determine it anymore. It could conceivably stand for 'goal', 'majority', or perhaps even 'freestanding house' or 'land'. And if you go by the best possible parallelism, 'that of' seems to refer to a majority, because that's the word placed right before '...OF young adults' (which seems to work in parallel with '...OF earlier generations').

Here's another way of thinking about it:
Generally, you use 'as' to compare VERBS or WAYS in which things happen.
Generally, you use 'like' THINGS (nouns).

So the first example in this thread uses 'as' because of the comparison between VERBS/WAYS ('as it was of...'). Notice that, if the sentence were written in a manner that compared nouns or noun phrases (such as 'The goal of the current generation, LIKE THAT OF previous generations, is...'), then you'd use 'like'.

作者: 云游 时间: 2013-9-26 12:39
个人觉得这道题最核心，最核心，最核心的东西是like的比较必须是针对两个不同的东西。
Like apple, banana....
Like Messi, C.Ronald...
Like USA, China....
而不是，
Like apple, apple...
Like China, China...
Like Messi, Messi...
所以就算指代没有问题，下面的句子也不对。
Like owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land of earlier generations, owning and living in a freestanding house is still a goal of a majority of young adult.

作者: zincgirl 时间: 2014-9-9 20:32
Xiexiexiexie

作者: autumn921104 时间: 2014-10-29 21:09

xunzlyx 发表于 2013-8-16 16:17
直接贴出Ron的完整版

That sentence doesn't really cut it. Here's why:

多谢搬运！

作者: 看风吹痕 时间: 2014-11-14 18:57

云游发表于 2013-9-26 12:39
个人觉得这道题最核心，最核心，最核心的东西是like的比较必须是针对两个不同的东西。
Like apple, banana ...

这个解释好!

作者: 成成儿 时间: 2015-1-5 14:52

云游发表于 2013-9-26 12:39
个人觉得这道题最核心，最核心，最核心的东西是like的比较必须是针对两个不同的东西。
Like apple, banana ...

对耶，like对比的是名词，且是不同名词哦，这里正确答案的it就说明了是同一个名词，谢谢云游的解释～～

作者: yttuobao 时间: 2015-8-2 10:20
有收获！！！

作者: 发动机 时间: 2015-9-23 15:03

bejamin1111 发表于 2013-4-11 07:20
that没有清晰的指代,指代majority的嫌疑很大。以下是ron更为详细的解释:
'that of earlier generations' i ...

谢谢～解答的好详细～

作者: Ashley0814 时间: 2015-11-20 09:30

xunzlyx 发表于 2013-8-16 16:17
直接贴出Ron的完整版

That sentence doesn't really cut it. Here's why:

这位在两年前就知道重要的事情说三遍了

作者: rorkey 时间: 2015-12-3 16:13
为什么that指代模糊就错，那it指代模糊就不错呢？

作者: Vrq 时间: 2016-5-8 10:22

rorkey 发表于 2015-12-3 16:13
为什么that指代模糊就错，那it指代模糊就不错呢？

因为用it的E选项是个很漂亮的平行，可以看到与前面一一对应这样子指代就很清楚啦

作者: zero2max 时间: 2016-7-20 21:10

云游发表于 2013-9-26 12:39
个人觉得这道题最核心，最核心，最核心的东西是like的比较必须是针对两个不同的东西。
Like apple, banana ...

同意！

作者: Flameco绿光 时间: 2016-10-7 01:58

rorkey 发表于 2015-12-3 16:13
为什么that指代模糊就错，那it指代模糊就不错呢？

因为IT后面有个was，跟原文里面的……is形成对比，所以it虽然是指那件事情，但是it was这样的结构就变成了和前面的句子进行对比

而that只有单单一个，这样只能that跟前面的一件事情对比而已。

所以选E

作者: 雪梨加油 时间: 2018-6-17 20:55

云游发表于 2013-9-26 12:39
个人觉得这道题最核心，最核心，最核心的东西是like的比较必须是针对两个不同的东西。
Like apple, banana ...

天啊说的太好了感谢你！

作者: Eeeehong 时间: 2018-12-13 14:48

云游发表于 2013-9-26 12:39
个人觉得这道题最核心，最核心，最核心的东西是like的比较必须是针对两个不同的东西。
Like apple, banana ...

同意！

作者: lisa001 时间: 2019-8-6 19:17
按句意that指代owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land，显然是不适合的。E中用的形式主语所以没有问题

作者: 750Gogogo 时间: 2021-11-8 10:21

xunzlyx 发表于 2013-8-16 16:17
直接贴出Ron的完整版

That sentence doesn't really cut it. Here's why:

同意！

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