ChaseDream

标题: 关于with的一点疑问，请牛牛帮忙解答 [打印本页]

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 08:15
标题: 关于with的一点疑问，请牛牛帮忙解答
The results of the company's cost-cutting measures are evident in its profits, which increased five percent during the first three months of this year after it fell over the last two years.

A.which increased five percent during the first three months of this year after it fell

B.which had increased five percent during the first three months of this year after it had fallen

C.which have increased five percent during the first three months of this year after falling

D.with a five percent increase during the first three months of this year after falling(C)

E.with a five percent increase during the first three months of this year after having fallen
这是个og上的题目，其中关于D选项prep的解释是“with独立主格修饰前面的分句，而不是its profits，修饰错误；falling的逻辑主语也成了results，错误”
但是看这个句子（源自prep08）Visitors to the park have often looked into the leafy canopy and seen monkeys sleeping on the branches, with arms and legs hanging like socks on a clothesline. with很显然是修饰宾语monkey
我的疑问是，原题D选项也可以理解为修饰宾语，为什么就不对呢；再者，什么时候with修饰整个句子，什么时候修饰宾语？？？？

大过年的，让个gmat闹心啊，，，，，，，，，跪求牛牛解答

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 08:19
自己顶，不要沉

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 08:19
不能沉撒，

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 08:19

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 08:20

作者: ddairy199 时间: 2013-2-10 11:43
我也在纠结这个问题，SC 7和SC 90都考了with的修饰问题，但是两道题的答案完全不一样。。。我也好纠结啊。。。

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 13:26
就是呢，咱们坐等牛牛

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 13:28
大过年的，不要沉啊

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 20:23
再顶一下等待奇迹

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2013-2-10 22:27
有看excel么楼主？

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 22:56
excel？木有啊，什么东东。。。。。。表示很惭愧

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 22:57

有看excel么楼主？

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2013/2/10 22:27:38)

excel是什么东东，我表示很惭愧。。。。。。

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2013-2-10 23:03
[attach]109336[/attach]

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 23:10

109336

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2013/2/10 23:03:55)

谢谢啦，看来我还是要努力加油啊，空缺太大啦

作者: tzhou7 时间: 2013-2-10 23:16

看了你的对86#的解读了～～～不过有一段不太理解：
2. "with" in D should have a meaning as something that joins two things, so it seems like it would link "are evident in its profits...with an increase", making "profits" and "an increase" as two separate and equivalent items...and that's an illogical meaning because the "increase" doesn't have a clear number or value in that case. You can't simply have "an increase" - that increase has to be attached to a number, a figure, etc. So the word "with" in D introduces a lack of clarity throughout the underlined portion - the increase is vague and the verb "falling" has no subject. D is incorrect on several counts.
能不能用例句来简单介绍以下？
谢谢大牛～～～

作者: oliilo1986 时间: 2013-2-10 23:30
想了很久也组织不出语言来解释这个语法，with的用法其实很随意，举个栗子
Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party, with her parents watching by the side.
Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party with his eyes half-closed.
With eyes half-closed, Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party.
With her eyes half-closed, Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party.
Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party, with the skirt damaged during the process.
怎么都是对的

Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party with eyes half-closed.就有点搞不清eyes是谁的了

只能说which相对而言指代性更强一些，所以做题的时候两个都没有明显错误时选择which好一些

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2013-2-10 23:49

想了很久也组织不出语言来解释这个语法，with的用法其实很随意，举个栗子
Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party, with her parents watching by the side.
Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party with his eyes half-closed.
With eyes half-closed, Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party.
With her eyes half-closed, Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party.
Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party, with the skirt damaged during the process.
怎么都是对的

Josh pulled off Jane’s skirt during the party with eyes half-closed.就有点搞不清eyes是谁的了

只能说which相对而言指代性更强一些，所以做题的时候两个都没有明显错误时选择which好一些

-- by 会员 oliilo1986 (2013/2/10 23:30:30)

同意

还是看split吧归根结底

which就是noun modifier

with可以作为noun modifier也可以作为adverbial modifier

两个选项的其他部分一致的时候，后者明显就会被排除（当被指代的对象是一个noun的时候，当然）

因为存在的歧义违背了SC中的清晰原则

作者: 苹果的微笑 时间: 2013-2-10 23:54

-- by 会员 oliilo1986 (2013/2/10 23:30:30)

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2013/2/10 23:49:01)

这么说我就明白了，就是选择 the best choice

欢迎光临 ChaseDream (https://forum.chasedream.com/)