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作者: GMATER800    时间: 2012-12-18 16:37
标题: 求问一个很基础问题!!!!!!
S.V.O  ,  saying that S.V.O.   谁能解释下这为啥不是run-on 句型,不是两句话必须得有连词连接吗?后面从句也是一句话啊。还有saying在这是做什么成分的?多谢!
作者: village203    时间: 2012-12-18 17:11
不会是run on sentence的,run on sentence 一般来说是两个完整的主谓宾或主系表句子,中间只用逗号隔开,这里saying 从句显然没有完整的主谓宾或主系表嘛~~所以不是。
run on sentence 还有一个比较特别的是S1 V1 O1 and it V2 O2的情形,即前后两句的主语一样,但后句用it 替换掉主语。正确的形式应该是S1 V1 O1 and V2 O2.
至于", Ving"就是传说中的独立主格了~~根据不同的语境有三种用法:
1、非限制性修饰就近名词
2、作伴随状语修饰谓语动词
3、表示前面整个句子的immediate consequence
2and3两种情况下要求这个Ving的逻辑主语与句子主语一致
(to be discussed)
PS如果LZ有题目的话,建议把题目贴全了~~~更方便大家有针对性的分析~~
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-12-18 17:33
S.V.O  ,  saying that S.V.O.   谁能解释下这为啥不是run-on 句型,不是两句话必须得有连词连接吗?后面从句也是一句话啊。还有saying在这是做什么成分的?多谢!
-- by 会员 GMATER800 (2012/12/18 16:37:40)


就是一个“伴随状语”或者是“结果状语”——但是以saying来说应该是伴随状语(修饰作用亲)
作者: GMATER800    时间: 2012-12-18 18:01
S.V.O  ,  saying that S.V.O.   谁能解释下这为啥不是run-on 句型,不是两句话必须得有连词连接吗?后面从句也是一句话啊。还有saying在这是做什么成分的?多谢!
-- by 会员 GMATER800 (2012/12/18 16:37:40)



就是一个“伴随状语”或者是“结果状语”——但是以saying来说应该是伴随状语(修饰作用亲)
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/12/18 17:33:49)

原句是:Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adault sea turtles.(prep08 178) 非常感谢!对,确实是伴随状语,但是还是不太清楚“, saying that +加一句话” 没有连接词如何连接一个从句和主句呢,还有分词加从句可以做状语吗? 好像很常见但仔细一想想不通了。。。
作者: GMATER800    时间: 2012-12-18 18:07
不会是run on sentence的,run on sentence 一般来说是两个完整的主谓宾或主系表句子,中间只用逗号隔开,这里saying 从句显然没有完整的主谓宾或主系表嘛~~所以不是。
run on sentence 还有一个比较特别的是S1 V1 O1 and it V2 O2的情形,即前后两句的主语一样,但后句用it 替换掉主语。正确的形式应该是S1 V1 O1 and V2 O2.
至于", Ving"就是传说中的独立主格了~~根据不同的语境有三种用法:
1、非限制性修饰就近名词
2、作伴随状语修饰谓语动词
3、表示前面整个句子的immediate consequence
2and3两种情况下要求这个Ving的逻辑主语与句子主语一致
(to be discussed)
PS如果LZ有题目的话,建议把题目贴全了~~~更方便大家有针对性的分析~~
-- by 会员 village203 (2012/12/18 17:11:22)

原句是:Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adault sea turtles.(prep08 178)很感谢啊! 不过貌似不是独立主格,如果是的话saying前应该有个不同于主句主语的名词吧。还有我记得逗号加ving应该不能就近修饰吧,好像只有你说的后两条,如果就近修饰的话,逗号应该去掉比较合理吧(欢迎讨论)
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-12-18 18:14
句式就是:Last week local shrimpers held a conference …, saying that their compliance … is protecting没问题的啊,亲不用纠结,这种用法是没有问题的。。。其实that后面就是从句,前面的你可以当做是主句,用saying that过度
作者: village203    时间: 2012-12-18 18:55
sorry啊~确实不是独立主格~我错鸟……只是状语而已~~
held a conference,saying that……我脚的就是状语,状这个conference是肿么held的嘛~~
至于Ving 非限定修饰,这里有一题贴出来给你参考~(当然!又可能是我错鸟TAT,我真是只悲催的菜鸟鸟……)
In a plan to stop the erosion of East Coast beaches, the Army Crops of Engineers proposed building parallel to shore a breakwater of rocks that would rise six feet above the waterline and act as a buffer, absorbing the energy of crashing wave and protecting the beaches.
这题的absorbing the energy of crashing wave and protecting the beaches如果作状语(前提是逻辑主语要和句子主语一样对吧),那逻辑主语就是the Army Crops of Engineers 了!不合理吧!所以呢,这里只能是作定语,跳跃修饰a breakwater of rocks
当然这题可能比较特别……
欢迎讨论~~
作者: GMATER800    时间: 2012-12-18 19:59
sorry啊~确实不是独立主格~我错鸟……只是状语而已~~
held a conference,saying that……我脚的就是状语,状这个conference是肿么held的嘛~~
至于Ving 非限定修饰,这里有一题贴出来给你参考~(当然!又可能是我错鸟TAT,我真是只悲催的菜鸟鸟……)
In a plan to stop the erosion of East Coast beaches, the Army Crops of Engineers proposed building parallel to shore a breakwater of rocks that would rise six feet above the waterline and act as a buffer, absorbing the energy of crashing wave and protecting the beaches.
这题的absorbing the energy of crashing wave and protecting the beaches如果作状语(前提是逻辑主语要和句子主语一样对吧),那逻辑主语就是the Army Crops of Engineers 了!不合理吧!所以呢,这里只能是作定语,跳跃修饰a breakwater of rocks
当然这题可能比较特别……
欢迎讨论~~
-- by 会员 village203 (2012/12/18 18:55:15)

谢谢你这么认真~~~不过这题我觉得哈,v-ing如果做状语其逻辑主语不一定是主句主语,一般应该是所修饰分句的主语,比如这里absorbing...and protecting...其逻辑主语是a breakwater of rocks,但是他是主句proposed...这个动作的结果,所以它应该是结果状语吧。你也可以参考一下08语法笔记的188题解释
作者: kiwifoodtown    时间: 2012-12-19 08:20
sorry啊~确实不是独立主格~我错鸟……只是状语而已~~
held a conference,saying that……我脚的就是状语,状这个conference是肿么held的嘛~~
至于Ving 非限定修饰,这里有一题贴出来给你参考~(当然!又可能是我错鸟TAT,我真是只悲催的菜鸟鸟……)
In a plan to stop the erosion of East Coast beaches, the Army Crops of Engineers proposed building parallel to shore a breakwater of rocks that would rise six feet above the waterline and act as a buffer, absorbing the energy of crashing wave and protecting the beaches.
这题的absorbing the energy of crashing wave and protecting the beaches如果作状语(前提是逻辑主语要和句子主语一样对吧),那逻辑主语就是the Army Crops of Engineers 了!不合理吧!所以呢,这里只能是作定语,跳跃修饰a breakwater of rocks
当然这题可能比较特别……
欢迎讨论~~
-- by 会员 village203 (2012/12/18 18:55:15)



absorbing 还是做状语,是对从句that would rise six feet above the waterline and act as a buffer 的修饰,其主语是 that ( a breakwater of rocks ).




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