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作者: 默默楚    时间: 2012-11-30 16:28
标题: OG12 93
Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paving about S5 a barrel more for crude oil than thev were last year.
(A)Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were
(B)Heating-oil prices are expected to rise higher this year over last because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
(C)Expectations are for heating-oil prices to be higher this year than last year's because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
(D)It is the expectation that heating-oil prices will be higher for this year over last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil now than what they were
(E)It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise higher this year than last year's because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did

想问一下more than的用法
刚查了一下DUKB的千行excel上面对more than的解释如下
The words more and less are rather flexible.They can be used us nouns(or pronouns),adjectives,or adverbs.

Right:I own MORE THAN I should(noun or pronoun)
Right:I own MORE SHIRTS THAN Ishould.(adjective)
Right:I sleep MORE THAN I should.(adverb)

把E选项拿出来分析看看歧义在哪里:
refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did.
当more做形容词时:
crude oil (more than)they did:他们去年支付的油钱比5美元还要少
当more 做副词时:
crude oil (more)than they did:比去年支付的油钱多付了5美元(intended meaning)


我想问的是
当more做形容词时:
crude oil (more than)they did:他们去年支付的油钱比5美元还要少。
这里的more than 修饰的是$5 a barrel么?
这句话的翻译怎么感觉很奇怪呢?

作者: yiqing2012    时间: 2012-11-30 21:13
$5 a barrel修饰more than~
没记错的话这里aeo斑斑的比较总结里也出现过一点错误,我专门查过语法书:
修饰more...than结构的可以是far,even,many,a lot,three times等,也可以是有表示度量概念的名词词组表示,如Peter is two inches taller than John~
作者: xohe赵    时间: 2012-12-2 20:04
$5 a barrel修饰more than~
没记错的话这里aeo斑斑的比较总结里也出现过一点错误,我专门查过语法书:
修饰more...than结构的可以是far,even,many,a lot,three times等,也可以是有表示度量概念的名词词组表示,如Peter is two inches taller than John~
-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/30 21:13:47)


没搞懂你的意思噶
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-12-2 20:11
$5 a barrel修饰more than~
没记错的话这里aeo斑斑的比较总结里也出现过一点错误,我专门查过语法书:
修饰more...than结构的可以是far,even,many,a lot,three times等,也可以是有表示度量概念的名词词组表示,如Peter is two inches taller than John~
-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/30 21:13:47)


亲。。。。。。我记得manhattan里讲过N times只有和as...as...来标示多倍数的表达,而N times +more than这种比较级是错误的,要不咱再查查???
作者: TerraceHo    时间: 2012-12-2 20:28
$5 a barrel修饰more than~
没记错的话这里aeo斑斑的比较总结里也出现过一点错误,我专门查过语法书:
修饰more...than结构的可以是far,even,many,a lot,three times等,也可以是有表示度量概念的名词词组表示,如Peter is two inches taller than John~
-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/30 21:13:47)



亲。。。。。。我记得manhattan里讲过N times只有和as...as...来标示多倍数的表达,而N times +more than这种比较级是错误的,要不咱再查查???
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/12/2 20:11:15)



MGMAT在講multiplication的時候提到,n + times adjective-比較級 + than : 表示n+1倍^^

作者: MiaZhang    时间: 2012-12-2 22:11
这个问题很纠结,LZ不放把more当做一般的形容词使用,不要随便改变形容词或者副词的位置,该修饰谁就修饰谁。。。

N times +more than结构,虽然Manhattan说它是错的,但是Prep和GWD里面有时候会作为正确答案使用,所以还是不要把这个作为优先标准了。
作者: yiqing2012    时间: 2012-12-3 17:30
$5 a barrel修饰more than~
没记错的话这里aeo斑斑的比较总结里也出现过一点错误,我专门查过语法书:
修饰more...than结构的可以是far,even,many,a lot,three times等,也可以是有表示度量概念的名词词组表示,如Peter is two inches taller than John~
-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/30 21:13:47)



亲。。。。。。我记得manhattan里讲过N times只有和as...as...来标示多倍数的表达,而N times +more than这种比较级是错误的,要不咱再查查???
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/12/2 20:11:15)

这个我很确定,因为我当时把语法书这章看了好多遍。。。
回去我截图发一下~
作者: yiqing2012    时间: 2012-12-3 21:54
粘在附件里了 应该可以显示的吧~~
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-12-3 22:45
yiqing你那个是哪里的资料呀
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-12-3 22:52
我找老师问了也说是可以用,但是manhattan上倒是确实写了不行,而且manhattan还举例了:说verbal有道正确答案的写法是:....."5 times greater than".....的用法实际上是错误的,in general,this usage should be avoided=======

我看还是不要当做绝对错误删除选项就得了,如果原文是N times AS...as...,那下面的选项不要变成N times more than就可以了......
作者: yiqing2012    时间: 2012-12-4 11:12
我找老师问了也说是可以用,但是manhattan上倒是确实写了不行,而且manhattan还举例了:说verbal有道正确答案的写法是:....."5 times greater than".....的用法实际上是错误的,in general,this usage should be avoided=======

我看还是不要当做绝对错误删除选项就得了,如果原文是N times AS...as...,那下面的选项不要变成N times more than就可以了......
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/12/3 22:52:48)


恩恩~ 同意~~ 出现就先找其它split点吧。。。(其实我还没有看过manhattan,所以一直不知道它上面的说法。。。不过既然它这样说了,还是谨慎点好~~)
ps:那个资料是章振邦《新编英语语法》第三版里的~
作者: 晓野的野    时间: 2013-3-16 11:10
我找老师问了也说是可以用,但是manhattan上倒是确实写了不行,而且manhattan还举例了:说verbal有道正确答案的写法是:....."5 times greater than".....的用法实际上是错误的,in general,this usage should be avoided=======

我看还是不要当做绝对错误删除选项就得了,如果原文是N times AS...as...,那下面的选项不要变成N times more than就可以了......
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/12/3 22:52:48)



我可不可以举手问一个小点啊?
为什么第一个比较的时候不用last year‘s ???
因为是今年的油价和去年的油价比较啊,而不是今年的油和去年在比较啊?
OG 解答上说,the possessive last year's does not parallel the adverbial phrase this year.
这....为什么要这两个平行呢?应该是比价的对象平行对等,该是油价啊
作者: brainfish    时间: 2013-3-16 19:37
rise higher对么?
作者: 晓野的野    时间: 2013-3-18 15:06
我找老师问了也说是可以用,但是manhattan上倒是确实写了不行,而且manhattan还举例了:说verbal有道正确答案的写法是:....."5 times greater than".....的用法实际上是错误的,in general,this usage should be avoided=======

我看还是不要当做绝对错误删除选项就得了,如果原文是N times AS...as...,那下面的选项不要变成N times more than就可以了......
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/12/3 22:52:48)




我可不可以举手问一个小点啊?
为什么第一个比较的时候不用last year‘s ???
因为是今年的油价和去年的油价比较啊,而不是今年的油和去年在比较啊?
OG 解答上说,the possessive last year's does not parallel the adverbial phrase this year.
这....为什么要这两个平行呢?应该是比价的对象平行对等,该是油价啊
-- by 会员 晓野的野 (2013/3/16 11:10:31)



不知道这个解释对不对。
是在08语法笔记211题上看到的。
比较从句的主语和谓语与主句的主语和谓语相同时,可以全部省去,常常保留做状语的介词短语或状语从句。
求确认。






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