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作者: yiqing2012 时间: 2012-11-3 17:16
标题: prep2008 177
For the farmer who takes care to keep them cool, providing them with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing an average of 2,275 gallons of milk each per year.
A.providing them with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing
B.providing them with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, the Holstein cow produces
C.provided with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing
D.provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, the Holstein cow produces
E.provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, Holstein cows will produce

这道题关于A和E，我纠结了很久，然后有了一点自己的想法，但不知道对不对，请NN们指证~~~

首先我觉得这句话本身无论选A还是E都有点小问题：N，ving/ved,N...是典型的夹心修饰，但是由于这里人和牛不属于同一逻辑层面，所以还可以接受（只有人providing,milking,牛provided,miked)
下面来分析A：A中providing,milking做takes care的伴随，但是这里其实违背了平行对称，因为keep them cool显然也是takes care的一个内容，所以要么三个动作都用ving伴随，要么都用to do结构；
所以E相比A而言更好。
不知道上面这种想法对不对？

另外我还有一个问题是：这里are producing 和will produce的时态问题是不是split点？prep中的解释：“native speaker of english will recognize 'are producing' at once as awkward”是什么意思呢？

作者: yiqing2012 时间: 2012-11-3 17:52
dddd~

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2012-11-3 18:00

dddd~

-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/3 17:52:40)

我一向都觉得时态是一个很难的split点，很难通过单独的这个时态来确定自己的答案

不过我可以告诉你这里时态是个split

但是是一个相对危险的split

一般现在时比较好：表示的一种general fact 吧，没有特别强调说在当下的time-frame正在进行（其实我当时做这个题我也觉得进行时很怪，直觉！）

不过are 和will这两个选项有个更明显的split就是cows的单复数，你看看未划线部分要指代一致的！

再来

我觉得你把平行看错了

provided ， milked，cool这3者才是平时，前两个虽然是过去分词，但是他们同样也是形容词！

作者: yiqing2012 时间: 2012-11-3 18:21

dddd~

-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/3 17:52:40)

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/3 18:00:38)

cows单复数没有问题啊。。。A和E都是Holstein cows啊。。。不是都是复数吗？

那个平行我觉得你说的很有道理，不过按照prep的思路（prep在E选项的解释里把句子还原了）：Provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, Holstein cows will produce an average of 2,275 gallons of mild each per year for the farmer who takes care to keep them cool。它是把provided 和milked作为了cows的修饰。。。不知道你怎么理解呢？（我觉得你说的和prep说的都有道理。。。）

还有我在看老帖的时候查到了这句话原文出处，不知道对这句话的理解会不会有什么帮助。。。http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc97/10_4_97/bob1.htm

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2012-11-3 18:30
你把题目选中google去看manhattan的解释

没懂的话你继续po问题上来

作者: yiqing2012 时间: 2012-11-3 18:34

你把题目选中google去看manhattan的解释

没懂的话你继续po问题上来

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/3 18:30:04)

OK~

作者: yiqing2012 时间: 2012-11-3 19:34
弄懂了~~ thks~~~

ps:你果然很强大。。。prep上很多错误都是通过你才知道的~ 真心感谢~~~

作者: stt300 时间: 2012-11-8 18:28
标题: 顶
这道prep题挺有代表性的，所以贴上Ron的经典解释供大家参考：

heh. it looks like choice (a) is an "indian trap"
seriously, not a joke.
if there is a single biggest issue in the grammar of second-language english speakers who happen to hail from india or pakistan, that issue is the drastic overuse of the "are ...ing" construction. (native speakers of english will recognize "are producing" at once as awkward.)

another problem with part (a) is the modifier. although "providing... and milking..." is a grammatically acceptable modifier, it doesn't make any sense in context, since these are not two things that farmers do WHILE or AS A CONSEQUENCE OF keeping the cows cool. (if you're going to use comma + -ing, then one of these two should hold.)
see #124 (og 12th edition) or #127 (og 11th edition), correct answer, for a sentence in which such a modifier actually does make sense.

the official answer, (e), is tricky indeed.

you have to parse it as follows:
you KEEP THE COWS cool
you KEEP THE COWS provided with...
and you KEEP THE COWS milked regularly

ugly. very ugly. but (e) is the least ugly of the bunch, so it wins the proverbial pageant.
i would much prefer "keep them cool, provide them with..., and milk them...", but that isn't there, of course.
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note that you also can't say "THE holstein cows", unless you're referencing a particular, specific, known group of holstein cows (something that you clearly aren't doing). since you're talking about holstein cows in general, you don't use the article "the".
this is another thing well known, totally subconsciously, to native speakers of english; it's hard-won wisdom for non-native speakers.

还有prep笔记说ing修饰take care，大家此处也注意一下，Ron说是修饰keep them cool的，所以逗号+ing的伴随修饰应该是修饰最靠近的一个v的，不一定是主句了。

作者: gjyrxqgzj 时间: 2013-5-6 13:18

DUKB24 发表于 2012-11-3 18:30
你把题目选中google去看manhattan的解释没懂的话你继续po问题上来

版主~~~看了老帖和manhattan解释，不知道这样理解对不对，求确认：
For the farmer [who takes care to keep them (cool, provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly,)] Holstein cows will produce an average of 2,275 gallons of milk each per year.
也就是说cool, provided, milked平行，keep sb/sth done。而who之后的一长串都是定语。
原句可以缩减为for the farmer, Holstein cows will...
For解释“为了”而不是接原因状语（Prep中说是原因状语）？
另外，由此想到，for表原因的时候既可以接句子也可以接短语的对吧？用法有什么限制的吗？
灰常感谢哇~~~

作者: leoona_lee 时间: 2014-12-22 10:04

yiqing2012 发表于 2012-11-3 18:21
dddd~-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/3 17:52:40)

我一向都觉得时态是一个很难的split点，很难通过 ...

我觉得prep的思路比较正确。毕竟假如是是修饰cows的话，一定是provided 和 milked。

作者: 吉曼特托夫 时间: 2015-3-19 08:32

DUKB24 发表于 2012-11-3 18:00
dddd~-- by 会员 yiqing2012 (2012/11/3 17:52:40)

我一向都觉得时态是一个很难的split点，很难通过单 ...

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作者: Sugarcanee 时间: 2015-9-22 09:26
终于懂了。。原来for是为了。。一直以为是对于，这题太容易把主语看成farmer了，但是一看成farmer这句子就是不完整的了。

作者: yangmuhua89757 时间: 2016-2-21 14:23

Sugarcanee 发表于 2015-9-22 09:26
终于懂了。。原来for是为了。。一直以为是对于，这题太容易把主语看成farmer了，但是一看成farmer这句子就 ...

说得不对 RON认为provide和milk的动作发出者不是FARMER 所以这里面不能用DOING形式并且也不能代表结果所以E选项更加合理 KEEP STH DONE

作者: xyxyxy_123 时间: 2016-7-23 13:00
为啥我在曼哈顿上没搜到这个题求甩连接~~ 谢谢~~

作者: AnnieFFish 时间: 2016-9-14 21:50
想很久这个provided到底是修饰cows，还是看成keep后面的平行

根据RON的解释，应该是keep后面的平行了

作者: 猪小王 时间: 2017-2-9 06:18

AnnieFFish 发表于 2016-9-14 21:50
想很久这个provided到底是修饰cows，还是看成keep后面的平行

根据RON的解释，应该是keep后面的平行了 ...

英语里经常说keep you hydrated, keep you fed.

e.g., I take care to keep my son hydrated with Pedialyte when he is sick. ［我take care的目的是keep my son hydrated]
“hydrated with Pedialyte” 是个past participle, function as adjective, 修饰noun.

"provided with high-energy feed" and "milked regularly"是past participle, 在这个句子里是noun modifiers，修饰的只能是Holstein cows或“them" （cows的代词而已）。所以，我认为Ron和prep的解释都合理。

Ron's: For the famrer who takes care to keep them [cool, provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly], Holstein cows will ...
keep them [X, Y, and Z] 都是adjectives，平行。Y and Z作为noun modifiers修饰them。

Prep's: Provided with high-energy feed, and Milked regularly, Holstein cows will ... for the farmer who takes care to keep them cool. 作为noun modifier修饰cows。

从意思上讲，显然Ron的解释更好。X, Y, and Z 都是the farmer takes care 的目的。

A 不对，是因为providing ..., and milking ... 和cool即不平行，也不能用来修饰cows， cows不能自己provide自己food或者给自己挤奶。

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