SC88 怎么没人问啊？~~求指导 - ChaseDream

我是用排除法做的
有both的时候都有and的，但是句子后半部分时yet，不能与both平行，所以有both的选项都是错的
而剩下的C和D 选项，C没有主谓，而D 结构完整，所以是D

-- by 会员 dameili (2012/9/28 8:43:05)

GMAT是喜欢同位语但是正确选项还是讲究最高原则，看到曼哈顿语法Part II讲到简洁那个部分，有过一个pattern是prefer an adjective to an adjective clause with be，里面有个例子是：XXX who is admirable 不如 admirable professor简洁，当然这个举例太简单了点，但核心就是在保证语义正确的前提下尽量简洁。但是OG还有一题我记得是crests and troughs that remain stationary 和 stationary crests and troughs,后面这句改就改变原意了。扯远了。。。呜呼

这个题是名词修饰名词，其作用和形容词相近，这样可以代替同位语，Jazz pianist and composer (who is) Thelonious Monk，所以你不能说它错，能一句话说清楚的就比两句话简洁（在尊重语义的前提下）。所以还是觉得跟上面形容词那坨有异曲同工之妙。。。瞄的SC看多了！我觉得GMAT还是偏好同位语的。

-- by 会员 Carat (2012/9/28 22:33:47)

88. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist andcomposer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A)Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B)Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both

(C)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted

(D)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

(E)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Grammatical construction; Rhetorical construction

The subject of the sentence is Thelonious Monk, and the sentence tells about two things that he did: produced and stood apart. Tne work he produced was rooted in the mainstream {stride piano) jazz tradition, yet at the same time, he deviated from this tradition. The use of a relative clause (who was a jazz pianist...) or an appositive
(thejazz pianist...) introduces unnecessary wordiness and grammatical complexity. Since only one point is being made about Monk's body of work, the appearance of the word both in the clause presenting the claim about Monk's work is deceptive as well as grammatically incorrect.

A The relative clause introduces wordiness and confusion.

B The appositive introduces wordiness and unnecessary grammatical complexity. 为什么说同位语会wordiness and unnecessary grammatical complexity 呢？除了这一题之外，并没有发现OG对同位语的强烈不偏好啊。求各位解答~
C The sentence is a fragment because the main subject, Thelonious Monk, has no verb.

D Correct. The sentence concisely identifies Thelonious Monk and expresses the single point about his work without unnecessary or misleading words.

E The appearance of both is misleading, since only one point is being made about where Monk's musical roots are located.同样不能理解，为什么both的出现会出现歧义~求解释啊·~~~

-- by 会员 sodalight (2012/9/28 8:33:21)

GMAT是喜欢同位语但是正确选项还是讲究最高原则，看到曼哈顿语法Part II讲到简洁那个部分，有过一个pattern是prefer an adjective to an adjective clause with be，里面有个例子是：XXX who is admirable 不如 admirable professor简洁，当然这个举例太简单了点，但核心就是在保证语义正确的前提下尽量简洁。但是OG还有一题我记得是crests and troughs that remain stationary 和 stationary crests and troughs,后面这句改就改变原意了。扯远了。。。呜呼

这个题是名词修饰名词，其作用和形容词相近，这样可以代替同位语，Jazz pianist and composer (who is) Thelonious Monk，所以你不能说它错，能一句话说清楚的就比两句话简洁（在尊重语义的前提下）。所以还是觉得跟上面形容词那坨有异曲同工之妙。。。瞄的SC看多了！我觉得GMAT还是偏好同位语的。

-- by 会员 Carat (2012/9/28 22:33:47)

3Q 你上面说的那个例子我也注意到了。后来想了想，这种prefer的原则，不应该作为排除选项的关键点。应该去找句子里更错误的地方。

-- by 会员 sodalight (2012/9/29 14:47:12)

88. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist andcomposer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A)Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B)Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both

(C)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted

(D)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

(E)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Grammatical construction; Rhetorical construction

The subject of the sentence is Thelonious Monk, and the sentence tells about two things that he did: produced and stood apart. Tne work he produced was rooted in the mainstream {stride piano) jazz tradition, yet at the same time, he deviated from this tradition. The use of a relative clause (who was a jazz pianist...) or an appositive
(thejazz pianist...) introduces unnecessary wordiness and grammatical complexity. Since only one point is being made about Monk's body of work, the appearance of the word both in the clause presenting the claim about Monk's work is deceptive as well as grammatically incorrect.

A The relative clause introduces wordiness and confusion.

B The appositive introduces wordiness and unnecessary grammatical complexity. 为什么说同位语会wordiness and unnecessary grammatical complexity 呢？除了这一题之外，并没有发现OG对同位语的强烈不偏好啊。求各位解答~
C The sentence is a fragment because the main subject, Thelonious Monk, has no verb.

D Correct. The sentence concisely identifies Thelonious Monk and expresses the single point about his work without unnecessary or misleading words.

E The appearance of both is misleading, since only one point is being made about where Monk's musical roots are located.同样不能理解，为什么both的出现会出现歧义~求解释啊·~~~

-- by 会员 sodalight (2012/9/28 8:33:21)

B：这其实没有什么好纠结的，对于“称谓和人名”的使用方法，在就有说明过，直接就“职位或称位+人名”，不需要任何有关同位语，who从句或者是其他修饰方法。。。。。。。。。。。。简洁有效为最高原则
LZ提到的G对于同位语的偏好，是指在和其他修饰（例如定从）比较之下，较为偏好。。。。。。。但不能做为答案的唯一凭证

E：童鞋。。。不要想太多。。。真的就是both。。。and。。。不完整，导致both歧义

-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/9/29 17:03:59)

88. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist andcomposer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A)Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B)Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both

(C)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted

(D)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

(E)Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Grammatical construction; Rhetorical construction

The subject of the sentence is Thelonious Monk, and the sentence tells about two things that he did: produced and stood apart. Tne work he produced was rooted in the mainstream {stride piano) jazz tradition, yet at the same time, he deviated from this tradition. The use of a relative clause (who was a jazz pianist...) or an appositive
(thejazz pianist...) introduces unnecessary wordiness and grammatical complexity. Since only one point is being made about Monk's body of work, the appearance of the word both in the clause presenting the claim about Monk's work is deceptive as well as grammatically incorrect.

A The relative clause introduces wordiness and confusion.

B The appositive introduces wordiness and unnecessary grammatical complexity. 为什么说同位语会wordiness and unnecessary grammatical complexity 呢？除了这一题之外，并没有发现OG对同位语的强烈不偏好啊。求各位解答~
C The sentence is a fragment because the main subject, Thelonious Monk, has no verb.

D Correct. The sentence concisely identifies Thelonious Monk and expresses the single point about his work without unnecessary or misleading words.

E The appearance of both is misleading, since only one point is being made about where Monk's musical roots are located.同样不能理解，为什么both的出现会出现歧义~求解释啊·~~~

-- by 会员 sodalight (2012/9/28 8:33:21)

B：这其实没有什么好纠结的，对于“称谓和人名”的使用方法，在就有说明过，直接就“职位或称位+人名”，不需要任何有关同位语，who从句或者是其他修饰方法。。。。。。。。。。。。简洁有效为最高原则
LZ提到的G对于同位语的偏好，是指在和其他修饰（例如定从）比较之下，较为偏好。。。。。。。但不能做为答案的唯一凭证

E：童鞋。。。不要想太多。。。真的就是both。。。and。。。不完整，导致both歧义

-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/9/29 17:03:59)

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist andcomposer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

我觉得OG的解释已经说得很清楚了

两个main verb，一个contrast ； produced 和 stood apart 转折很合理，创作了很多主流音乐但是被排挤在外

这里的both就是用的错的，不是歧义的问题

很多人会认为 both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington

这里有个both and不是对么？（刚入门我也犯过这个错误）；所以真的要通过结构和意思来判断到底这个and 是用来干嘛的
both肯定是用来描述主语的两件事，但是只说了produce一个动作，那个and是用来连接tradition of W and D

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/30 10:04:18)