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标题: 陷进去的verbal 54题,从C~E求牛牛帮忙分析 [打印本页]

作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 22:24
标题: 陷进去的verbal 54题,从C~E求牛牛帮忙分析
1.
A patient accusing a doctor of
malpractice will find it difficult to prove damage if there is a lack of
some other doctor to testify
about proper medical procedures.

(A) if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify

(B) unless there will be another doctor to testify

(C) without another doctor’s testimony

(D) should there be no testimony from some other doctorC

(E) lacking another doctor to testify

C的without 是修饰做伴随修饰全句呢还是修饰damage呢?



D的should 弱弱的问是省略了if的倒装么?能说的详细点么?这个知识点我一直理解不了?
E的lacking 引导的短语是应该修饰lacking,那在lacking之前加一个逗号,这个句子是不是就对了呢?


说到without,想到了verbal的70题:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

A.extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B.extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C.extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D.extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E.extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

D和E的with如果用CD推荐的方法看(http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-80567-1-1.html),那是修饰宾语,也就是brush?则错误。
作者: HarrisZheng    时间: 2012-9-25 22:47
C 做状语 修饰全句
D 是的 if you should have any question  倒装 should you have any question
E 放在句首会好些
作者: 维以不永伤6    时间: 2012-9-25 22:52
你说的verbal是什么资料,,,作为一个才刷了一遍OG的人来说发现我对应不了题号。

楼主太纠结语法了。。。

C。也不是一个修饰语,without是表示一种情况,是一个状语。
D。should(只有情态动词是should的时候才能这样倒)倒装表示强调,但是在GMAT里面是不成立的,难道这道题选D?
E。不应该加一个逗号,加一个破折号而且lack的那个句子是个完整句就对了,表示解释为什么difficult to prove damage.
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-9-25 22:54
C:without=if not引导条件句,对应前文的will
D:不全就是if there should be no testimomy...(是将if省略,should提前的一种变式)
E:lacking在句尾即使加上逗号含义也不可能对,lack testimony在应该是一个条件,lacking在句尾不能表达出这层含义
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-9-25 22:55
建议LZ好好复习看看总结一下OG吧。。。基础知识很是纠结呀~~~~~
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 22:55
嗯,确实E放句首更好,真心感谢。
还有一个问题想请教:
说到without,想到了verbal的70题:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

A.extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B.extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C.extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D.extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E.extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

D和E的with如果用CD推荐的方法看(http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-80567-1-1.html),那是修饰宾语,也就是brush?则错误。
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 22:56
就是og的语文啊。。。。。。单独的一本,我刚入门么,所以在纠结纠结语法中..........
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:02
放句子开头应该可以吧?啊,我都不知道放在句尾为什么不能表达出这种含义,好丢脸能告诉我why么?

是滴哦,我og才刷第二遍,而且我语法特别差,所以问题菜很多......不要怪我纠结语法啊,小猫,我想先弄懂了再做题做出经验,后面不用分析也就知道啦,谢谢你啦。
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:02

还有一个问题想请教:
说到without,想到了verbal的70题:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

A.extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B.extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C.extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D.extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E.extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

D和E的with如果用CD推荐的方法看(http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-80567-1-1.html),那是修饰宾语,也就是brush?则错误。
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-9-25 23:12
逗号的原因引起了with的修饰歧义。。。
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-9-25 23:15
看上去是说,5倍数量的extinction。。。改变原文含义
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:17
逗号的原因引起了with的修饰歧义。。。
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/9/25 23:12:55)



诶,加逗号会引起歧义么?那如果不加的话呢?
看CD上面说:
4
主语+谓语+宾语,with短语with短语修饰宾语,with表示“有”的意思,例如,og114

作者: 维以不永伤6    时间: 2012-9-25 23:18

还有一个问题想请教:
说到without,想到了verbal的70题:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

A.extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B.extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C.extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D.extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E.extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

D和E的with如果用CD推荐的方法看(http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-80567-1-1.html),那是修饰宾语,也就是brush?则错误。
-- by 会员 ivansmile33 (2012/9/25 23:02:58)



觉得楼主引用的那篇帖子挺扯的。
D,E如果没有语法错误的话,表示伴随状态,为啥楼主总是觉得是修饰呢,搞得好复杂。


D错在fivefold的主语是谁在句子中缺失了,number 不是自己fivefold的
E里面Manhattan说过,n times more than not greater than.
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:19
看上去是说,5倍数量的extinction。。。改变原文含义
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/9/25 23:15:00)



就是说这里是修饰extinction么?不是修饰brush?
作者: sisichen666    时间: 2012-9-25 23:20
哦~~你刚刚又问了lacking是吧?。。doing在句尾:一是做结果状语,一是做伴随状语,一是做(主句为~主系表结构)修饰主语。。。。。你看看有那种条件含义吗??。。不过刚刚那个NN说道,放句首修饰主语,含义上是可以的啦,不过还是改变了语气。。。‘(就题论题吧,不需要想怎么改》》》知道为什么错就可以了)
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:21
还有一个问题想请教:
说到without,想到了verbal的70题:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

A.extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B.extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C.extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D.extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E.extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

D和E的with如果用CD推荐的方法看(http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-80567-1-1.html),那是修饰宾语,也就是brush?则错误。
-- by 会员 ivansmile33 (2012/9/25 23:02:58)




觉得楼主引用的那篇帖子挺扯的。
D,E如果没有语法错误的话,表示伴随状态,为啥楼主总是觉得是修饰呢,搞得好复杂。


D错在fivefold的主语是谁在句子中缺失了,number 不是自己fivefold的
E里面Manhattan说过,n times more than not greater than.
-- by 会员 维以不永伤6 (2012/9/25 23:18:55)



那什么时候是伴随什么时候是修饰嗯?是和加逗号有关系么?我不懂啊,也找不到好的with总结,看这是CD推荐的,就进去看了,呜呜呜,语法太差了,没办法啊
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:23
哦~~你刚刚又问了lacking是吧?。。doing在句尾:一是做结果状语,一是做伴随状语,一是做(主句为~主系表结构)修饰主语。。。。。你看看有那种条件含义吗??。。不过刚刚那个NN说道,放句首修饰主语,含义上是可以的啦,不过还是改变了语气。。。‘(就题论题吧,不需要想怎么改》》》知道为什么错就可以了)
-- by 会员 sisichen666 (2012/9/25 23:20:59)



嗯,也是,我想太多了,我改~~~
小猫,还是帮我解决刚才with的那个问题吧,好纠结,什么时候伴随什么时候修饰呢?这个修饰的歧义在哪里呢
作者: 维以不永伤6    时间: 2012-9-25 23:36
我觉得meaning是很重要的criterion,加comma,放句前句后都很tricky,用意思去判断,make sense
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:42
还有一个问题想请教:
说到without,想到了verbal的70题:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

A.extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B.extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C.extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D.extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E.extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

D和E的with如果用CD推荐的方法看(http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-80567-1-1.html),那是修饰宾语,也就是brush?则错误。
-- by 会员 ivansmile33 (2012/9/25 23:02:58)





觉得楼主引用的那篇帖子挺扯的。
D,E如果没有语法错误的话,表示伴随状态,为啥楼主总是觉得是修饰呢,搞得好复杂。


D错在fivefold的主语是谁在句子中缺失了,number 不是自己fivefold的
E里面Manhattan说过,n times more than not greater than.
-- by 会员 维以不永伤6 (2012/9/25 23:18:55)




那什么时候是伴随什么时候是修饰嗯?是和加逗号有关系么?我不懂啊,也找不到好的with总结,看这是CD推荐的,就进去看了,呜呜呜,语法太差了,没办法啊
-- by 会员 ivansmile33 (2012/9/25 23:21:14)




嗯,是的是的,但是如果意思把握不准很难判断,我还是把语法放第一位的

就是能帮我解决一下上面的这个问题么?什么时候with是伴随,什么时候修饰之前的名词呢
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-25 23:51
觉得这个说的对:
1. with结构在句子中的位置: with 结构在句中作状语,表示时间、条件、原因时一般放在句子前面,并用逗号与句子分开;表示方式和伴随状况时一般放在句子后面,不用逗号分开。若with结构作定语,则放在所修饰的名词之后,一般不用逗号隔开。

而我给出的这个问题,我觉得with是做独立主格.........对不对?

作者: 维以不永伤6    时间: 2012-9-26 00:01
先说修饰的问题,Ron神说:COMMA + prep phrase modifier" is an adverbial modifier, meaning that it modifies the entirety of the preceding clause.所以With……修饰前面整个句子。

with除了能表示“有”,修饰主语之外;还有就是就近修饰名词。with引导的不一定是一个完整句

with表伴随,一般是有comma的,而且主句不能是完成时,否则就不能伴随了。另外伴随状语从句,从句是一个完整句。

从语法上我只想得到这么多,如果一道题你没大概清楚是什么意思纯凭语法技巧去解的话还是挺不靠谱的。就这个问题来说,读懂句子大概什么意思,就完全明白是修饰还是伴随了。
作者: 维以不永伤6    时间: 2012-9-26 00:04
觉得这个说的对:
1. with结构在句子中的位置: with 结构在句中作状语,表示时间、条件、原因时一般放在句子前面,并用逗号与句子分开;表示方式和伴随状况时一般放在句子后面,不用逗号分开。若with结构作定语,则放在所修饰的名词之后,一般不用逗号隔开。

而我给出的这个问题,我觉得with是做独立主格.........对不对?
-- by 会员 ivansmile33 (2012/9/25 23:51:19)

是独立主格
开始我也是想with结构作定语,则放在所修饰的名词之后,一般不用逗号隔开。但是也有with表示“有”,修饰主语放在句首,逗号隔开的情况。
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-26 00:16
E算是独立主格的话,D也不能算,with后不是名词啊。

这里with是做修饰,但是修饰应该没有逗号......
作者: ivansmile33    时间: 2012-9-26 07:08
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