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作者: torresAing    时间: 2012-9-6 22:38
标题: 求助 OG13 的 SC 43 48 和 52 , 多谢!~
43.Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many

are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million , and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain’s land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

疑问: C的 Them的指代哪里有问题呢? 就People可以是一个复数啊!














48. It is called a sea, but the landlocked Caspian is actually the largest lake on Earth, which covers more than four



times the surface area of its closest rival in size, North America’s Lake Superior
.




(A) It is called a sea, but the landlocked Caspian is actually the largest lake on Earth, which covers





(B) Although it is called a sea, actually the landlocked Caspian is the largest lake on Earth, which covers




(C) Though called a sea, the landlocked Caspian is actually the largest lake on Earth, covering






(D) Though called a sea but it actually is the largest lake on Earth, the landlocked Caspian covers





(E) Despite being called a sea, the largest lake on Earth is actually the landlocked Caspian, covering


疑问: E的OG解释是:Despite being called asea indicates, somewhat
illogically, that the largest lake being called a sea would lead one to expect it not to be the Caspian. This makes little sense,especially to those who are familiar with the name Caspian Sea.
是什么意思啊?



52.To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate,

and she remained in France during the Second World War as a performer and an intelligence

agent for the Resistance.                                                              

(A) To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate

(B) For Josephine Baker, long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Paris was her home

(C) Josephine Baker made Paris her home long before to be an expatriate was fashionable

(D) Long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Josephine Baker made Paris her home

(E) Long before it was fashionable being an expatriate, Paris was home to Josephine Baker


疑问:就是AB ,,OG说了To Josephine Baker 与 her是多余的的,为什么呢???意思理解不出来!

作者: torresAing    时间: 2012-9-7 09:25
顶下。。。。
作者: DUKB24    时间: 2012-9-7 10:14
。。。。太多题目了

1.them的指代没有问题。。。OG的解释是从语法上说them没有指代,这里them的指代不存在任何意思上的问题;关键还是句意不对


2.这个你真得再看看,OG这里的解释相当精彩。。。。我不知道怎么表达出OG的意思。。。。sigh


3.中文理解:对我来说,巴黎是我家;对我来说,巴黎是家
作者: torresAing    时间: 2012-9-7 12:09
。。。。太多题目了

1.them的指代没有问题。。。OG的解释是从语法上说them没有指代,这里them的指代不存在任何意思上的问题;关键还是句意不对


2.这个你真得再看看,OG这里的解释相当精彩。。。。我不知道怎么表达出OG的意思。。。。sigh


3.中文理解:对我来说,巴黎是我家;对我来说,巴黎是家
-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/7 10:14:07)


对的,第一个them指代没什么问题吧,关键是加了一个and 把句子的从属意义变成了并列了;
第二个的OG 意思好像就是说,这样让别人误以为里海不是海,而最大的湖是海;但那些背景知识知道C这个东西是里海的就不会有这个误解,估计就是不一视同仁了,不符合GMAC的初衷;
第三个,是我自己中文表达就这么表达,所以看不出哪里啰嗦 = =!!!,这下要改了,对我来说,巴黎是我家。以前觉得很顺口啊,,,,,,,,,~~

谢谢,每次都是你来解答我, ;我现在在刷OG,每天10几个题目,看bat他们说有点问题就要发帖讨论,所以就问题比较多,真的谢谢你了,这下我不每天都发,仔细思考,有的就不发了,不然频率的确蛮高的;
作者: DUKB24    时间: 2012-9-7 12:32
。。。。太多题目了

1.them的指代没有问题。。。OG的解释是从语法上说them没有指代,这里them的指代不存在任何意思上的问题;关键还是句意不对


2.这个你真得再看看,OG这里的解释相当精彩。。。。我不知道怎么表达出OG的意思。。。。sigh


3.中文理解:对我来说,巴黎是我家;对我来说,巴黎是家
-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/7 10:14:07)



对的,第一个them指代没什么问题吧,关键是加了一个and 把句子的从属意义变成了并列了;
第二个的OG 意思好像就是说,这样让别人误以为里海不是海,而最大的湖是海;但那些背景知识知道C这个东西是里海的就不会有这个误解,估计就是不一视同仁了,不符合GMAC的初衷;
第三个,是我自己中文表达就这么表达,所以看不出哪里啰嗦 = =!!!,这下要改了,对我来说,巴黎是我家。以前觉得很顺口啊,,,,,,,,,~~

谢谢,每次都是你来解答我, ;我现在在刷OG,每天10几个题目,看bat他们说有点问题就要发帖讨论,所以就问题比较多,真的谢谢你了,这下我不每天都发,仔细思考,有的就不发了,不然频率的确蛮高的;
-- by 会员 torresAing (2012/9/7 12:09:34)



有很多题目我的excel都是有总结的,你对应着看,因为都是国外的instructor的解答,所以一般都很好


再有不懂再发上来


大家相互讨论相互进步 PS:你第二题的理解不错,差不多就是这个意思了
作者: abjure    时间: 2012-9-7 14:07
43.Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many



are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million , and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain’s land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

疑问: C的 Them的指代哪里有问题呢? 就People可以是一个复数啊!


-- by 会员 torresAing (2012/9/6 22:38:32)



OG-C The reference of them is unclear and the expression is generally awkward.
OG 说有问题,就是有问题。

LZ 对比 (C)和(E)选项。

你发现C选项的them 指代的people 在两个介宾短语里面,
in Laos with a population of only four million people,这个藏的也太深,感觉好像不太想让人发现。。 读句子快一点,你都不会留意到有people这个“指代对象”。

而且我们在看看C的写法,主干主语many of
them去“指代” 非核心修饰语的名词“people”.
个人认为不妥。

因为非核心修饰语的一个重要特点是:删去该修饰语但不会影响句意,假如我们把“in Laos there is a population of only four million ”删去的话,them立刻就不知道指代是什么了,这对句意有影响,所以不对。

个人总结代词指代:
(1)有没有语法正确的指代对象 (单复数)
(2)指代对象语义是否模糊 (即多个语法正确,但语义不同的指代对象)
(3)指代对象的位置清晰,明确。(平行对称,主干和修饰,介宾短语)。

作者: abjure    时间: 2012-9-7 14:11
。。。。太多题目了

1.them的指代没有问题。。。OG的解释是从语法上说them没有指代,这里them的指代不存在任何意思上的问题;关键还是句意不对


2.这个你真得再看看,OG这里的解释相当精彩。。。。我不知道怎么表达出OG的意思。。。。sigh


3.中文理解:对我来说,巴黎是我家;对我来说,巴黎是家
-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/7 10:14:07)



对的,第一个them指代没什么问题吧,关键是加了一个and 把句子的从属意义变成了并列了;
第二个的OG 意思好像就是说,这样让别人误以为里海不是海,而最大的湖是海;但那些背景知识知道C这个东西是里海的就不会有这个误解,估计就是不一视同仁了,不符合GMAC的初衷;
第三个,是我自己中文表达就这么表达,所以看不出哪里啰嗦 = =!!!,这下要改了,对我来说,巴黎是我家。以前觉得很顺口啊,,,,,,,,,~~

谢谢,每次都是你来解答我, ;我现在在刷OG,每天10几个题目,看bat他们说有点问题就要发帖讨论,所以就问题比较多,真的谢谢你了,这下我不每天都发,仔细思考,有的就不发了,不然频率的确蛮高的;
-- by 会员 torresAing (2012/9/7 12:09:34)



建议:排个版,把每道题分开发。 题目标清楚题号。

这样看到人会多些,
作者: DUKB24    时间: 2012-9-7 14:18
必须得同意你这个建议!!!我每次看到3.4道题一起问的都晕了
作者: sawayisa    时间: 2012-9-7 15:08
1.C是一个很怪的结构,but in Laos with a population of only four million people是可以修饰后面的many of them,导致整个many of them不知道指的啥。
2.the largest lake都 called sea,那Caspian是啥?
3.OG说是重复就是重复,其实还是句意的问题比较大。
作者: hhc1102211    时间: 2012-9-7 15:28
Despite being called a sea, the largest lake on Earth is actually the landlocked Caspian, covering

"despite being called a sea"只能修饰主语,在e选项里,那就是修饰the largest lake,而原句说的是Caspian被称为sea。
这么解释吧,原句的意思是,尽管caspian被称作海,其实caspian是地球上最大的湖
e的意思是,尽管地球上最大的湖被称作是海,其实这个最大的湖是caspian
e潜在含义是在说,caspian不被人们称作海
作者: hhc1102211    时间: 2012-9-7 15:36
52题
To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home...后面的不要看,就看这部分,不觉得重复?好,看下面这句
To Josephine Baker, Paris was home.... 现在明白了么。还不明白?再看
now we rearrange this sentence.
1.Paris was her home to Josephine Baker.
2.Paris was home to Josephine Baker.
明白了吧

作者: hhc1102211    时间: 2012-9-7 15:39
最后奉劝lz一句,不要在这种地方下功夫,直接看大错AB都可以排除,og解释里的东西很多都是欲加之罪何患无辞,真正考的时候你也没时间看这种小错误,往往都是主谓宾,指代,平行,和搭配的错误等
PS:同理与prep的解释,很多都是错的,还是那句话,看大错
作者: torresAing    时间: 2012-9-7 22:39
43.Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many





are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million , and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain’s land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

疑问: C的 Them的指代哪里有问题呢? 就People可以是一个复数啊!




-- by 会员 torresAing (2012/9/6 22:38:32)




OG-C The reference of them is unclear and the expression is generally awkward.
OG 说有问题,就是有问题。

LZ 对比 (C)和(E)选项。

你发现C选项的them 指代的people 在两个介宾短语里面,
in Laos with a population of only four million people,这个藏的也太深,感觉好像不太想让人发现。。 读句子快一点,你都不会留意到有people这个“指代对象”。

而且我们在看看C的写法,主干主语many of
them去“指代” 非核心修饰语的名词“people”.
个人认为不妥。

因为非核心修饰语的一个重要特点是:删去该修饰语但不会影响句意,假如我们把“in Laos there is a population of only four million ”删去的话,them立刻就不知道指代是什么了,这对句意有影响,所以不对。

个人总结代词指代:
(1)有没有语法正确的指代对象 (单复数)
(2)指代对象语义是否模糊 (即多个语法正确,但语义不同的指代对象)
(3)指代对象的位置清晰,明确。(平行对称,主干和修饰,介宾短语)。
-- by 会员 abjure (2012/9/7 14:07:44)



谢谢,我明白了,GMAT 的确做的时候,把一些介词啊,插入语啊什么都划掉,看主干,看主谓什么的,这里就是这个道理, 过BD 通过其他也很明显可以看出是错的;
还有你的建议,谢谢,我一直以为发的一个一个题目的,别人会闲麻烦,不如在一个看的舒服,,我错了,下次我就好好弄排版,在分开发!
作者: torresAing    时间: 2012-9-7 22:40
必须得同意你这个建议!!!我每次看到3.4道题一起问的都晕了
-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/7 14:18:24)


OK ! 我对照excel再研究研究,那上面好多国外的解释,有时候看的花掉了;
下次我发帖子就按你们说的!3Q~~!!!
作者: torresAing    时间: 2012-9-7 22:42
52题
To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home...后面的不要看,就看这部分,不觉得重复?好,看下面这句
To Josephine Baker, Paris was home.... 现在明白了么。还不明白?再看
now we rearrange this sentence.
1.Paris was her home to Josephine Baker.
2.Paris was home to Josephine Baker.
明白了吧
-- by 会员 hhc1102211 (2012/9/7 15:36:38)


这个太精辟了,还原下正常的语序; 谢谢 ,透彻的懂了!
作者: iambigchan    时间: 2012-11-11 17:42
"Despite being called a sea indicates, somewhat
illogically, that the largest lake being called a sea would lead one to expect it not to be the Caspian. This makes little sense,especially to those who are familiar with the name Caspian Sea."

abjure 说:OG 意思好像就是说,这样让别人误以为里海不是海,而最大的湖是海;但那些背景知识知道C这个东西是里海的就不会有这个误解,估计就是不一视同仁了,不符合GMAC的初衷。

我依然不是很理解: “有背景知识的就不会有这个误解“? 不是说:this makes little sense吗? little 不是表否定?

og的这个解释我还是很迷惑,求解释!!非常感谢!!
作者: waytous    时间: 2013-1-10 10:59
"Despite being called a sea indicates, somewhat
illogically, that the largest lake being called a sea would lead one to expect it not to be the Caspian. This makes little sense,especially to those who are familiar with the name Caspian Sea."

abjure 说:OG 意思好像就是说,这样让别人误以为里海不是海,而最大的湖是海;但那些背景知识知道C这个东西是里海的就不会有这个误解,估计就是不一视同仁了,不符合GMAC的初衷。

我依然不是很理解: “有背景知识的就不会有这个误解“? 不是说:this makes little sense吗? little 不是表否定?

og的这个解释我还是很迷惑,求解释!!非常感谢!!
-- by 会员 iambigchan (2012/11/11 17:42:47)



其实我五分钟前刚刚看这题,也有点晕。尝试解释下。请透彻明白的看下对不对。


Despite being called a sea...翻成中文,“虽然叫做海...",也就是前提假设下面出现的东西会被叫做”...海(sea)“,但是往下出现的是lake和Caspian。跟前面搭不上了。
作者: xiaoshuo199183    时间: 2013-1-28 19:01
"Despite being called a sea indicates, somewhat
illogically, that the largest lake being called a sea would lead one to expect it not to be the Caspian. This makes little sense,especially to those who are familiar with the name Caspian Sea."

abjure 说:OG 意思好像就是说,这样让别人误以为里海不是海,而最大的湖是海;但那些背景知识知道C这个东西是里海的就不会有这个误解,估计就是不一视同仁了,不符合GMAC的初衷。

我依然不是很理解: “有背景知识的就不会有这个误解“? 不是说:this makes little sense吗? little 不是表否定?

og的这个解释我还是很迷惑,求解释!!非常感谢!!
-- by 会员 iambigchan (2012/11/11 17:42:47)




其实我五分钟前刚刚看这题,也有点晕。尝试解释下。请透彻明白的看下对不对。


Despite being called a sea...翻成中文,“虽然叫做海...",也就是前提假设下面出现的东西会被叫做”...海(sea)“,但是往下出现的是lake和Caspian。跟前面搭不上了。
-- by 会员 waytous (2013/1/10 10:59:07)


想问问52题og对c选项的解释是什么意思~
作者: 啦啦噜啦啦    时间: 2013-5-13 23:02
DUKB24 发表于 2012-9-7 12:32
。。。。太多题目了1.them的指代没有问题。。。OG的解释是从语法上说them没有指代,这里them的指代不 ...

神奇版主,看了你的很多解释都很清晰。崇拜你!
你说的EXCEL是什么?可以发个链接吗?谢谢哇!神奇版主!!
作者: DUKB24    时间: 2013-5-13 23:03
啦啦噜啦啦 发表于 2013-5-13 23:02
神奇版主,看了你的很多解释都很清晰。崇拜你!
你说的EXCEL是什么?可以发个链接吗?谢谢哇!神奇版主! ...

http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-775193-1-1.html
作者: fred28    时间: 2013-6-9 17:57
DUKB24 发表于 2013-5-13 23:03
http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-775193-1-1.html

求助下,其实这个题我想问的是,正确选项C中的covering,我怎么觉得既不像immediate consequence也不像simultaneous action啊。。。。。
作者: jay871750293    时间: 2013-6-29 10:41
DUKB24 发表于 2012-9-7 10:14
。。。。太多题目了1.them的指代没有问题。。。OG的解释是从语法上说them没有指代,这里them的指代不存在任 ...

DUKB斑斑你好,想问一下43C中是否还存在一个其他的错误,即manhattan中提到的subgroup modifiers ---
some of which/ some of them/ some
其中只有第一个之后可以加完整的句子~

所以是否many of them之后不能加完整的句子,而只有many of whom之后才可以呢?
非常感谢DUKB斑斑~~
作者: DUKB24    时间: 2013-6-29 11:05
jay871750293 发表于 2013-6-29 10:41
DUKB斑斑你好,想问一下43C中是否还存在一个其他的错误,即manhattan中提到的subgroup modifiers ---
som ...

对的~
作者: jay871750293    时间: 2013-6-29 12:04
DUKB24 发表于 2013-6-29 11:05
对的~

谢谢DUKB斑斑~

不过还有一个疑惑:
C选项中but之后的分句---In Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them are members...
能不能将C选项中many of them理解为but之后分句的主语呢?同时将前面的介词成分理解为状语...
虽然many of them在subgroup modifier中不能连接句子,但是应该可以作句子主语吧?

作者: DUKB24    时间: 2013-6-29 12:18
jay871750293 发表于 2013-6-29 12:04
谢谢DUKB斑斑~

不过还有一个疑惑:

我觉得很awkward啊- -

不太确定能不能这样理解

但是这个题目就是考大方向

抓大放小就好

弄清楚转折是“地广人稀”




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