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作者: killer34888    时间: 2004-10-24 11:39
标题: gwd24-28请教

24-28: Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.


A) the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package


B) the last day they are scheduled to collect, workers are eligible for it at the automobile company’s severance package


C) their last scheduled day to collect, the automobile company offers its severance package to workers.


D) their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.


E) the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.


答案:e


请教答案e中的that从句的作用,这里是不是错误的,应该用in which  或when。


d有什么问题,和e比较我感觉d比e更好,因为that 从句的问题


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-10-25 02:23

that在E中引导的不是定从,而可以理解为同位语结果,如果改为in which或when也可以,不过这样引导的句子就是定从作状语了;

D的前半部改变句意。


作者: LES    时间: 2004-10-25 22:53

同意stoneren,E中的that从句是同位语从句。

D中in order to表目的,与scheduled语意重复。


作者: mrsyue    时间: 2004-11-13 23:00
同意D, scheduled day 是指 the last day of work, ‘in order to' indicates the need to stay  to collect the money. It's not necessarily redundant. Also, it doesn't matter what the function of 'that' is in E, it potentially alters the meaning to suggest 'collect the day.'
作者: looook    时间: 2004-11-14 13:33

支持E,但不同意LES


D中in order to表目的,与scheduled语意重复.

说, 只是in order to 后面的动作发出者不明确罢了.


  


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作者: garving2001    时间: 2004-11-17 06:06

我觉得是D答案。

E答案明显是wordy. 并且,scheduled to collect 在一起来修饰last day. 与句意不符。其实, 就是last working day.


作者: dark    时间: 2004-11-28 12:22

E means -- collect the day

D means -- collect the severance packages, which is money

So, key must be D


作者: 老鼠九条命    时间: 2004-11-29 02:27
CD的last scheduled day 不对, 明显改变了句意。Collect 的宾语是packages, 故后面省略了。因该说last scheduled day 这种说法本来就不准确,从语感来讲。
作者: songyin    时间: 2004-11-30 23:38

Ethey指代不明,可能指workers,也可能指packages. 还是D好一些。



大家继续讨论。


作者: agk99    时间: 2004-12-1 02:34

我支持E

個人意見, they 當然是指workers,比較合理也合邏輯


作者: msfox    时间: 2004-12-2 23:40

感觉E中的they是指代package.

D中的their是指workers,后面是不是应该用their last schedule day"s",不然是同一天了?


作者: anitahsu    时间: 2004-12-6 13:18

I think the 'they' in E refers to 'workers' is more logically sound...

is that right?


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2004-12-7 05:02

E


I put D initially, and that's why I believe my explanation got to be convincing.


D distorts the orginal meaning the author tries to say.


If we convert the sentence to an different order, it could be composed as following:


    Most severance packages require workers to stay until (d) their last scheduled day in order to collect


                                                                     or (e) the last day that they are scheduled to collect


In D, it's saying that the workers are required to stay until the last day because they need to work (to collect packages). "Collect" here doesn't modify "day".


In E, its saying that the workers are required to stay until the last day. This last day is the last working (collecting) day.


Because of the difference between these two and common sense, I stick to E.


BTW, I think "their" in D and "they" in E both refer to the workers because if not, "in order to collect" should be changed to "in order to be collected"; likewise, "are scheduled to collect" should be changed to "are scheduled to be collected".



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作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-12-11 19:31

E

that 指代时间,OG中有一题,谁帮着找一找。。。。


作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-12-11 21:09

174. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.

(A)  A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,

(B)  A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C)  A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D)  Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E)   Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

In this sentence, the relative pronoun that should introduce the clause The Adventures ... published to make a relative clause modifying year. Also, the singular title of the novel demands a singular verb: for example, one would say, "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is (not "are") a great book." Only C, the best choice, satisfies both requirements. Choices A and D incorrectly substitute as for that to introduce the relative clause. Choice A also mistakes the novel title for a plural (were published). B confuses meaning (written in the same year of publication as). E creates a similar confusion of meaning, and both D and E are awkward and imprecise because that is too far away from its referent (letter) to be clear.


作者: fbfamous    时间: 2004-12-13 11:55
THEY的指代在这个题目正好帮大家理解优先主语
作者: seekmydream    时间: 2004-12-13 14:53

从逻辑意思上理解, 我觉得应该选D。

D:1。their last scheduled day 言简意赅,表明是已规定的最后一天

       2。in order to 说明stay的目的;而且说明了与后一种packages不同之处:

             前一种--只有stay to the last scheduled day, 才能取到钱。后一种没有此要求。

E:the last day that they are scheduled to collect  同位语显得罗唆,且没有突出与后一种package不同的地方:

     这种packages只要求工人们stay to the last day, the last day 是被安排来取钱的。

open to discussion


作者: hpp920    时间: 2004-12-17 06:16

支持E

1.D中的in order to 说明stay的目的, 不对their 有限制, 所以their歧意 可指package可指人. 而E中的they受to collect的限制,只可能指worker. 如果是指package,则应是to be collected.

2.in order to的逻辑主语不明.句法上倾向于指主语,而这里句意要求指worker. 这种情形ETS倾向于用从句.可参考OG上国王那道so as to题.(忘记题号了)

ETS真够狠的!

open to question!


作者: hylrd    时间: 2004-12-27 12:09
在张道真语法中,有相应的描述,即:限制性定语从句可以修饰表示时间的词,用when,但不少情况下可以不用when,特别是某些句型和时间状语中,用that
作者: howru    时间: 2005-1-3 11:18

您们说 D distorts the meaning...我怎么看不出怎么 distort 法, 相反, 我觉得 D 才确切表达出了 - "必须呆到最后一天才能(in order to)拿钱"的意思, 而 E 没有表达出这层意思.  困惑....  


NN们怎么这么肯定the last day that they are scheduled to collect  中的 that 是同位语呢? 倘若是定语从句, 那不变成 "collect the last day" 了吗?  明显的错误啊?


请指教!


作者: cdoublesok    时间: 2005-1-8 19:52

their last scheduled day感觉用法不太合理,应该是the day that。。。

that来修饰day比较好。我觉得这里并不象17楼说的言简意赅的关系,

而是后面的用法比较合理。schedule 和in order to 是有重复意思,

schedule原意为安排,既这一天安排来做什么,已经把意思表达出来了,

所以没必要再用in order to .

请nn指正!


作者: hotdog55    时间: 2005-2-18 09:23
感覺上還是D對
句子基本的結構應該是
Most  severance packages require workers to stay until (某一天) to collect ...  
(E) 裡面把 to collect 併在 scheduled to collect 好像語意上不通
to collect 應該是 指 it is required for workers to stay in order to collect...  



作者: skyguard2000    时间: 2005-3-18 08:02
我支持E。
在这里,collect是“取钱”的意思还是“集合”的意思呢?我倾向于是“集合”,在这里就是work的意思。a day that A do B,a day 在从句中做状语,没有错。
对于D, require the workers to stay ... in order to collect,in order to不如 to简洁,而且都要给severance packages了,还需要他们为了工作而停留吗?公司已经不需要他们了。
作者: BiteGmat    时间: 2005-4-26 10:27

哪位能帮助解释一下这句话什么意思,语法的问题解决了但完全看不懂在讲什么东西


作者: 皮杰    时间: 2005-5-10 05:41
定语和同位语从句什么区别,谁给我解释一下下?
作者: 小女公子    时间: 2005-5-31 20:24

是不是定语从句可以少主语,同位于从句是一个完整的句子??


请教nn


这题我选E。语感……


作者: luxing    时间: 2005-6-1 11:58
I agree E. please refer to the message from 学大汉
A justifiable explanation lies there.
作者: IDAISY    时间: 2005-6-1 12:24








D) their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.



E) the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.


collect在这里的意思应该相当于work,工人被要求待到最后一天, 不是为了collect severance package, but because severance package is only available to those workers who stay until their last day.

if collect means 收集here, it is a vt. its subject cannot be omitted. furthermore, collect severance package is not logical. another mistake in d is "in order to", what is the object of 'in order to'?


作者: 小葵    时间: 2005-6-1 20:07
以下是引用JerryGuan在2004-12-11 21:09:00的发言:

174. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.



(A)  A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,



(B)  A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,



(C)  A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,



(D)  Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that



(E)   Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that



In this sentence, the relative pronoun that should introduce the clause The Adventures ... published to make a relative clause modifying year. Also, the singular title of the novel demands a singular verb: for example, one would say, "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is (not "are") a great book." Only C, the best choice, satisfies both requirements. Choices A and D incorrectly substitute as for that to introduce the relative clause. Choice A also mistakes the novel title for a plural (were published). B confuses meaning (written in the same year of publication as). E creates a similar confusion of meaning, and both D and E are awkward and imprecise because that is too far away from its referent (letter) to be clear.




这个说的不是一个问题吧,这题的考点是固定格式the same as 和the same that的区别.前者指两个东西一样,后者指同一个东东....所以用that....


作者: 小葵    时间: 2005-6-1 20:11

支持E啊,句子结构清晰明了,没有累赘.看到D的in order to就不爽.



作者: tigerlulu74    时间: 2005-6-20 00:15

选E,不选D。


(1)D.their last scheduled day 指“they有很多个scheduled day ,而last只是其中最后的一个,明显不符合句意。


        E。the last day that they are scheduled to collect则表达清楚:直到最后一天,然后用同位语从句说明“最后一天就是指他们收取severance packages的那天”


(2)D。 in order to collect中 in order to 是多余的,直接用to就足以表明“去收取”这个意思了。(象E一样)



PS:1.同位语与that引导的定语从句的区别是:在同位语从句中,that在从句中不充当任何成份;而在定语从句中,that在从句中是要充当成份的。


         2.本题中的collect与题中的available一样,都是指对scheduled day 的“收取”,而不是指“工人的聚集”。(从句意上看)


         3.E中的they很明显是指workers,因为the last day that they are scheduled to collect是属于从句which require workers to stay until 的成份,因此从其归属的句子来看,豪无异议的应该指其中的workers,因为其中没有其他成份可指了。


作者: suikyfly    时间: 2005-6-21 12:39

我选D。


in order to 虽然没有 to 简洁,但也并不是不可以用。而且,我认为E并不是同位语从句, the last day 和 that they are scheduled to collect 并不构成同位语,两者是不可替换的。若其为定语从句,则that应改为 on which 来指代 the last day。此处与 the same year ......that是不同的。


希望nn赐教!


作者: daxia345    时间: 2005-6-27 11:26

vote for E.


E省略了最后的the package, 补全应该是which require workers to stay until the last day that they are scheduled to collect (the package),这样就顺了


D中的in order to多余


作者: z520m    时间: 2005-7-10 18:13

我选了d,但是从出题者的角度出发,我觉得应该选e,e中的they很明显是workers,因为后面出现了指代workers的they,一句句子中的同一代词指代相同事务,d的that也很容易解释,如果查字典就可以发现,that可以当when,in which用跟在the day后面。不过d太不简洁了


我觉得d不适合当答案的理由就是,如果ets要给答案,一定在这个句子中不会用in order to,用to,e的形式也不符合正确答案形式。将一个分词提前一般不对。


请大家继续给出依据,真得很矛盾!


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作者: crackpot    时间: 2005-7-22 00:01

坚决支持D!新证据:


103.2.0 Eligibility For Holiday Pay
All "regular salaried" and "extra help" employees are eligible to receive holiday pay only if they are in pay status on their last scheduled work day before the holiday and at least one hour on the first scheduled work day after the holiday.


4.1.7 Holiday Pay for New or Terminating Support Staff Employees
If a recognized Institute holiday falls on a Monday and a new employee is scheduled to start work, and the employee starts work on his or her next scheduled work day, he or she is paid for the holiday.


If a recognized Institute holiday falls on the last available scheduled work day of the month, and the staff member is terminating on his or her preceding work day, he or she is paid to the end of the month to include the holiday.



首先,大量数据表明,their/his/her last scheduled work day 是英语国家普遍使用的一种表达方式,所以关于D中last scheduled day的种种非议皆不成立!


其次,collect我怎么看都是跟拿钱有关的,E中表达方式造成歧义,scheduled to do sth.,好像colllect跟schedule有关


还有,in order to比起to是不简洁,但不能算绝对错误,与E相比,可忽略不计!而且GWD中有无数类似的案例说明,到这一步再不能死抠语法点了,能表达清楚意思的就是正确的!



一家之言 等待板砖!



作者: emilyjiang    时间: 2005-7-30 06:09
为什么不是C
作者: emilyjiang    时间: 2005-7-30 06:10

24-28: Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.



A) the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package



B) the last day they are scheduled to collect, workers are eligible for it at the automobile company’s severance package



C) their last scheduled day to collect, the automobile company offers its severance package to workers.



D) their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.



E) the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.




作者: countd    时间: 2005-7-31 17:32
我也选D,好象这题是有点问题
作者: joeysue    时间: 2005-8-2 23:05

坚定选e,理由如下:


从语法上看


D中  解雇费的领取要求工人呆到最后一天目的是为了……,很明显,这里 in order to 的主语是severance package,但这明显说不过去,此处collect是领工资的意思。


E 中the last day that they are scheduled to collect,这里they肯定指代worker ,是说工人门领取解雇费要求呆到发工资的那天。句子意思非常清楚。


从句子意思的结构上看,D是说与大多数公司停薪费的支取要求工人呆到最后一天是为了………不一样,汽车公司对停薪费的支取没有要求。


而e中说的是,与大多数公司解雇费的领取要求工人呆到发工资的那天不一样,汽车公司对停薪费的支取没有要求。



作者: drunkbear    时间: 2005-8-13 05:28

choose D


Normally, scheduled day means "the scheduled day to WORK" not "the scheduled day to collect money". E changes the common meaning of "scheduled day".



作者: fdyk2001    时间: 2005-9-22 23:12

选D


还是觉得E中的they指代上有问题。


作者: fatlara    时间: 2005-9-27 17:40

vote for E


D不正确, 不是因为"their scheduled work day"的用法有问题.而是在于" in order to" 的主语不对. D中, 发出collect动作的, 是severance package,而不是worker, 明显是不对的.


而E通过to collect这一表达方式, 明确的说明collect的动作发出者是workers.


作者: elle_woo    时间: 2005-9-30 21:39

同意楼上!!!


另外查关于that的用法,发现一些不解的地方


金山:that  conj.(用于引导从句,等于 in, on, for 或 at which)


the day that he arrived他来的那天


Longman: that determiner, pronoun


used after a noun as a relative pronoun like 'who', 'whom', or 'which' to introduce a clause


The day that my father died, I was on holiday on Greece.


Longman这条解释是把that当名词性的关系代词,但怎么把这个例句放在这条解释之下呢~,看起来that也应该表“on which”“at which”啊~


还有金山和longman的例句很相似,一个解释为conj.,一个解释为pron.到底是怎么样啊~困惑~有哪位NN帮忙解释解释~


作者: mmfoolish    时间: 2005-10-1 20:35

不知道谁认识什么美国人嘛,可否向他们求证一下是D or E?



作者: PKGMAT    时间: 2005-10-3 14:12

同意42楼的解释, E。


作者: forlove    时间: 2005-10-5 03:08

我刚刚做了新的gmatprep, 这道是里面的一题,答案是D.


作者: nyc_cfa    时间: 2005-10-11 11:09

我几乎被说服选E了,看了楼上的我只能又该回D. E中的they有指代不明的嫌疑吧。


作者: zenger    时间: 2005-10-21 12:49
which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.




D) their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.



E) the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.


大家关注的要点:


D的in order to 不简洁,的确,OG也有明确例子,是不如直接用TO好,


E的they指代有点模糊,但基本可以确定是从句主语.that有点罗嗦,也无大错.


请关注to collect的作用,这是E的问题所在.是scheduled to collect还是stay ... to collect?从逻辑意思来说,当然是后者,但从语法形式来说,却偏偏就近表示了scheduled的目的.---应该可以找到OG经常描述的感觉了吧.


作者: 丑得老婆哭    时间: 2005-10-29 23:21

不要争了.我做了GMATprep,遇到这个题了.正确答案是D


作者: 12345678912345    时间: 2005-11-7 07:05
好奇怪啊,我也做了gmatprep为什么没有碰到这道题目呢?
作者: puccamummy    时间: 2005-11-8 13:44
以下是引用dark在2004-11-28 12:22:00的发言:

E means -- collect the day


D means -- collect the severance packages, which is money


So, key must be D


有道理!


作者: jjll    时间: 2005-11-14 00:21
以下是引用丑得老婆哭在2005-10-29 23:21:00的发言:

不要争了.我做了GMATprep,遇到这个题了.正确答案是D



GMATprep是哪里出的啊?是ETS吗?
作者: LRzealot    时间: 2005-11-15 11:20
以下是引用jjll在2005-11-14 0:21:00的发言:


GMATprep是哪里出的啊?是ETS吗?



我也做到了。D对,severance package是打发费用的意思。


作者: XUANYA2005    时间: 2005-11-16 12:50
虽然有人说说gmatprep中过答案是D,但是还是认为last scheduled day有一个意思就是很多预期的日子中间的最后一个,最起码改成 scheduled last day那么就肯定正确了。
作者: LRzealot    时间: 2005-11-16 15:11

各位看官,请看


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作者: kathy8446    时间: 2005-11-23 15:53

结合gmatprep的答案解释一下D:


因为后面句子部分出现they指代workers,根据一句中一个代词指代相同的原则,前面的their也指代workers. last scheduled day可以理解为原来合同的最后一天,也就是终止日期(因为后面提到提前离开的问题)。就是说员工必须等到原合同终止离开公司,才能领到遣散费。这个last scheduled day显然不是指代severance package的。


作者: kathy8446    时间: 2005-11-23 16:05
以下是引用drunkbear在2005-8-13 5:28:00的发言:

choose D


Normally, scheduled day means "the scheduled day to WORK" not "the scheduled day to collect money". E changes the common meaning of "scheduled day".



正如以上所说,E中的to collect 产生了scheduled to collect的歧义


作者: 五大老    时间: 2006-3-6 19:14
很晕,看了楼上几位引用prep的答案之后,似乎舆论又朝一边倒了..............
作者: mba06    时间: 2006-6-10 14:23

Support E.

In D, it says "their" last scheduled day. If their means "packages", it can be replaced by "package's last scheduled day". If their means "workers", it can be replaced by "worker's last scheduled day". Both meanings do not have a good sense.

In E, although "they" are not clear to indicate workers or packages. But logically it can only indicate the packages. It is the best answer we have, although it is not perfect.


作者: titatita    时间: 2006-6-23 08:29
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作者: vanessav    时间: 2006-6-26 11:19
以下是引用mba06在2006-6-10 14:23:00的发言:

Support E.

In D, it says "their" last scheduled day. If their means "packages", it can be replaced by "package's last scheduled day". If their means "workers", it can be replaced by "worker's last scheduled day". Both meanings do not have a good sense.

In E, although "they" are not clear to indicate workers or packages. But logically it can only indicate the packages. It is the best answer we have, although it is not perfect.

官方的答案就没有必要再去争了

出题的 永远是对的。

当然,如前人所说,

还要看collect的是啥,

是那个severance packeage 是钱,而E中 如是一说要collect的 是人了。


作者: 天堂楼下    时间: 2006-7-13 15:05

hehe, remember my teacher always says "there are only two ways, my way and the wrong way..."

so D is the kay what so ever^^


作者: beibeideng    时间: 2006-7-13 15:26

答案是D吧


作者: cclemon005    时间: 2006-9-15 23:30
prep模考中答案选d
作者: Winbolin    时间: 2006-9-16 00:07
以下是引用puccamummy在2005-11-8 13:44:00的发言:

有道理!

Dark兄說的就是這題解題的關鍵點, 選D 而不選E了.
作者: 盈儿    时间: 2006-11-16 18:42
以下是引用LRzealot在2005-11-16 15:11:00的发言:

各位看官,请看


[upload=jpg]UploadFile/2005-11/2005111615113473149.jpg[/upload]

相信prep的答案


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作者: rio    时间: 2006-11-20 17:54

我也摸靠到了

D


作者: yangxuemei0111    时间: 2006-11-21 10:42

在GMAT地解释当中,TO 就是IN ORDER TO 意思的简化,所以在这个意义上TO =IN ORDER TO ,我忘记是OG PURPLE上面哪道题目的解释了,所以这个区别不足以作为分辨选项的主要原因。

E中的THEY指代不清楚呀,因为前面已经出现了两个复数名词了。


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作者: colorful_na    时间: 2007-7-3 10:48

GWD-24-28.

Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay

until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile

company are eligible for its severance package even if they find

a new job before they are terminated.                                                      

A.    the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile

company are eligible for its severance package.

B.     the last day they are scheduled to collect, workers are

eligible for the automobile company’s severance package

C.     their last scheduled day to collect, the automobile company

offers its severance package to workers.

D.    their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile     

company’s severance package is available to workers.

E.     the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile

company’s severance package is available to workers.

支持选D

DUnlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay

until  their last scheduled day in order to collect(severance packages=money)

E
                            

Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay

until the last day that they are scheduled to collect(the day)

这样看collect的只能是severance packages而不能是 the day,只能是E

Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay

until the last day that they are scheduled to collect(the day)

这样看collect的只能是severance packages而不能是 the day,只能是E


作者: gylucia    时间: 2007-7-3 17:06
标题: 在做官方prep软件时碰到这道题了,答案给的是D
只可惜prep软件不给解释
作者: y_cheny    时间: 2007-8-4 03:13

D,the last scheduled day 契约期满的最后一天(直到到合约满的最后一天,才能领到severance),这个工作合约期满 与 后文的“期满前找到新工作也可拿到”形成对比,符合unlike。

E,the last day that they are schedualed to collect,(约定好的、给他severance的最后那天,也许是和HR scheduale的),我觉得这个schedualed有歧义。

另外,也可以简单的把Schedualed当作adj,D就明显优于E了


作者: liugangpaul    时间: 2007-8-16 18:36
呵呵,为什么大家都知道GMATPrep Practice1中的答案是D后还有很多人支持E呢?还是多想想为什么D是对的,E是错的吧!
作者: wsdoll    时间: 2007-8-26 07:25

幸好有官方答案。我自己选的D。不然又要是一个争议题了。

E中的they 有争议。


作者: nuj_am    时间: 2007-9-2 20:40

要是E中的they有争议,那D中的their不是也有争议吗?

我觉得应该从句意去理解, the last scheduled day是为了工作的, 这个有点专业术语的意思.


作者: 非去不可    时间: 2007-9-14 00:29
这道题的意思要把握住。这个应该是说裁员的事情,they are terminated就是被解雇了。原文的意思是说automobile这行中的employee不用必须工作到schedule的最后一天才行,如果他们在被解雇之前就找到新工作了,还是可以拿这个package。而不是说到了规定的那天来拿钱就行了(E的意思)。另外,collect有vi的意思,就是to take in payments or donations。所以D正确。
作者: sighliny    时间: 2008-7-24 13:37

恩,我觉得D,E主要是意思上的区别

D说要待到最后一天才能拿到Package,

E说待到之前就schedule好的拿package的最后一天,

那么参照全文和实际经验,应该是D的意思比较合理一些吧:只有待到最后一天,才能拿到package


作者: ada3063    时间: 2008-8-23 21:07

the last day that they are scheduled to collect

that修饰day,按照这样来说,collect day了,所以绝对错


作者: 岳如初    时间: 2008-10-5 23:24
以下是引用dark在2004-11-28 12:22:00的发言:

E means -- collect the day

D means -- collect the severance packages, which is money

So, key must be D

我觉得这个对


作者: 踏雪小妖    时间: 2008-11-28 11:31

说E,补充下

我感觉that从句是定语从句,先行词day是collect的宾语.所以意思有歧义。

D在不定式前还加了个in order,使得in order to collect作状语,避免不定式to collect作定语的歧义。

自己的想法,不知道对不对。。。欢迎批评指正!


作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2009-2-19 23:47

unlike的比较对象需平行,本题是不同企业的severance packages(遣散费)之间的比较,A,B和C比较对象不平行。

从前后两种情况对比取得获得遣散费资格的前提条件的逻辑来看,既然后一种(非划线部分)是“可在与本公司结束合同契约前先找到其它工作”,则前一种情况应该是指“按照合同约定为本公司工作到最后一天”,D符合此意,in order to在这里反而比to更强调作为状语修饰主语,避免了它就近成为宾语定语的可能。

而E表达的是the last day that they are scheduled to collect SEVERANCE PACKAGE,是收钱的时间,不是working day,不能形成逻辑上的对比,错。另外,E中的that从句中collect省略宾语可能是severance packages也可以是days(前一种可能中collect的意思是“收款”,后一种是“集合”),造成歧异。

schedule作动词常用被动。


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作者: ocean198501    时间: 2009-3-28 16:08

同意80楼的解释,就是说

their last scheduled(working) day in order to collect中day不专指collect发生的时间

day that they are scheduled to collect,由于that引导的是定于从句,并非前人所说同位语从句,则day专指collect发生的时间爱你

这样解释是不是明确一些呢???


作者: Bluekathy    时间: 2009-4-19 18:53

D 的 in order to 明确说了要领就要再最后一天领,对比更明显;

E 有歧义 the last day that they are scheduled to collect: 可以说是规定领取时间段内的最后一天(好多天)或者是规定的最后一天(一天)


作者: lupisces    时间: 2009-4-26 21:15

好累好累

PREP说了 这题选D

看到这么多NN选错了,我平衡了。。。


作者: Justin12122    时间: 2009-7-13 19:49
这道题目是在prep里面的,选D..语法笔记里面有
作者: sprins    时间: 2009-9-3 11:58
以下是引用sighliny在2008/7/24 13:37:00的发言:

恩,我觉得D,E主要是意思上的区别

D说要待到最后一天才能拿到Package,

E说待到之前就schedule好的拿package的最后一天,

那么参照全文和实际经验,应该是D的意思比较合理一些吧:只有待到最后一天,才能拿到package


作者: sprins    时间: 2009-9-3 13:34

这道题、这道题偶一直做一遍错一遍 每次看nn们的讨论大家都说E改变了句意并且to collect的修饰对象有歧义  也一直似懂非懂的 在疑惑A的to collect 、D的in order to collect和E的to collect真的有区别么

刚刚觉得最简单的一个判断方法是在A中补出定语从句 就可以很明确的看出are scheduled修饰的对象不同了 那么问题就不在要我们去勉强理解to collect到底是在collect money 还是day了

Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.

A) the last day
            (that are) scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package

D) their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.

E) the last day that
                
they
                    
are
scheduled to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.

这道题终于不用去纠结to collect什么的问题也不会再错了  


作者: sherry树丛    时间: 2009-11-15 12:14
我的理解是D、their last scheduled day in order to collect:计划的最后一天拿到package

                E、the last day that they are scheduled to collect 计划拿到package的最后一天

D是计划的最后一天,E、是收集的最后一天。两者有意义上的不同。还有一个问题是,如果不考虑他的逻辑意思,目的状语修饰last day,远远要比that 修饰last day要简洁、明确。og上有很多类似的修饰冗长,繁杂的习题。
作者: yoshimihoku    时间: 2010-7-18 20:46
E明显they有歧义
E可以理解成:the last day that the packages are scheduled to collect
也可以理解成:the last day that the workers are scheduled to collect,而这个就不合逻辑了
可是E的they就是会有这样的歧义

同样,同意楼上的,这个that放这里了they are就不对了
应该是:
the last day that they(workers) scheduled to collect (the packages)
or
the last day that they(the packages) are scheduled to collect,这个才对
作者: alanuonuo    时间: 2010-7-22 06:02
又一个历史悠久的题,留爪~
作者: mars0624    时间: 2010-8-4 11:16
DDDDD
作者: luoyue121    时间: 2010-8-19 22:32
I think E is correct.
D and E looks similar, however
last scheduled day----这个last变成用来形容scheduled,意思就变了,变成是待到最新定下来的那一天

last day that they are scheduled 还是指待到定下来的最后一天吧。

我觉得硬要说也只有这样了。
作者: Emma90    时间: 2010-9-2 09:33
看到这么长的贴觉得越讨论越糊涂,其实看不画线部分Unlike most severance packages,就只有D答案是对应的,不要纠结their指代谁啦
作者: alpaca    时间: 2010-9-7 12:33
这道题、这道题偶一直做一遍错一遍 每次看nn们的讨论大家都说E改变了句意并且to collect的修饰对象有歧义  也一直似懂非懂的 在疑惑A的to collect 、D的in order to collect和E的to collect真的有区别么
刚刚觉得最简单的一个判断方法是在A中补出定语从句 就可以很明确的看出are scheduled修饰的对象不同了 那么问题就不在要我们去勉强理解to collect到底是在collect money 还是day了
Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.


A) the last day
(that are) scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package





D) their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.



E) the last day that
they
are
scheduled to collect, the automobile company’s severance package is available to workers.

这道题终于不用去纠结to collect什么的问题也不会再错了
-- by 会员 sprins (2009/9/3 13:34:00)



一语道破!!!!
我也一直错这道题,每次都错!现在明白了~~哈哈
作者: xianyun543    时间: 2010-10-3 19:55
同意Luoyue121的观点:

last scheduled day----这个last变成用来形容scheduled,意思就变了,变成是待到最新定下来的那一天

last day that they are scheduled 还是指待到定下来的最后一天吧。
作者: DorothyHong    时间: 2010-11-30 13:27
在曼哈顿上看到一个说法

洪玲子  13:25:26
Anyway, to your original question. Since you narrowed to D and E, I'm assuming you don't need any explanation on the apples-to-apples comparison issue. The difference between D and E is one of meaning.

D says that some severance packages require workers to stay at the company until the last scheduled day they're supposed to work (say, next Friday) or they don't get their severance (which may get paid that day or at some point in the future - we don't know).

E says that some severance packages require workers to stay until the day that they are scheduled to get their money - in other words, they stay until, say, next Friday which is the day that they are actually paid.

Either could be the way things work (though D is probably more realistic, but we don't pay attention to that on SC). So we check the meaning of the original sentence. The original says that these packages "require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect..." Could be confusing, because that's grammatically incorrect in general, which muddles the meaning, but concentrate on "require workers to stay until the last day scheduled" - that goes along with option D. The "to collect" here is missing "in order" which makes it a little harder to see what's going on.

But notice in E how it separates out the later clause - "the last day THAT they are scheduled to collect" - making this into a separate statement, so now "scheduled" is paired with "to collect" instead of "last day scheduled" or (as in correct answer D) "last scheduled day."

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作者: toto198698    时间: 2011-1-25 12:56
其实这题不用看那么多,首先,“unlike”, 是要对称吧,开头unlike的事package,应该是package的对称,ABC就直接点,不看了,最后对称package的就是DE。 E, wordy, 选D,做完
作者: chenhongwen1    时间: 2011-7-4 15:17
偏向 E

要用in order to 的话 ,动作发出者一定是packages(manhattan),packages 不可能主动去collect
作者: paonbleu    时间: 2011-7-19 18:17
E的歧义在于 which require workers to stay until  the last day (that they are scheduled )to collect或
which require workers to stay until   the last day that (they are scheduled to collect)
D: which require workers to stay until  their last scheduled day in order to collect  没有这种修饰歧义。
作者: gozingdown    时间: 2011-8-2 22:05
D.   their last scheduled day in order tocollect, the automobile company’sseverance package is available to workers.

scheduled作用于day: a day that is scheduled collect宾语为whichseverance packages ,正确

E.    the last day that they are scheduled tocollect, the automobile company’sseverance package is available to workers.

 (scheduled作用于they workers who are scheduled to collect something collect的宾语为day,错误)

作者: wizwiz    时间: 2011-10-11 10:39
一语道破天机~~~




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