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标题: 求教OG13第7题的指代和修饰问题~大家来帮帮忙啊 [打印本页]

作者: 蛋蛋音    时间: 2012-7-27 11:01
标题: 求教OG13第7题的指代和修饰问题~大家来帮帮忙啊
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
作者: jeffery2541    时间: 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
-- by 会员 蛋蛋音 (2012/7/27 11:01:30)



1·关于代词指代的absolute rule只有两条:
(1) the antecedent must exist
(2) A pronoun and its antecedent must agree in number

也就是,只要不违背这两的代词的指代都不是绝对错误的。其余的情况中,只要代词的指代没有歧义就行。

上面那个题目中的it和its的指代是要相同的,否则就会产生歧义。

关于A of B是poor antecedent的问题,不是说B不能成为antecedent,只是有点poor,原因在于如果A/B数相同,则从语法上讲,指代是有歧义的。虽然这道题目中,尽管A/B数是相同的,但是从逻辑上推测it/its的指代都只能是compound insect eye,问一下自己:structure就只有hundreds of miniature eyes吗?而compound insect eye才是有hundreds of miniature eyes的。再问一问:进化的是structure吗?不,生物体才能进化。另外,即使我们认为structure是可以evolve的,可它能evolve independently of the vertebrate eye吗?不能,独立于the vertebrate eye进化的是compound insect eye,而不是structure。

代词的指代很多都不是绝对的,除了上面两条绝对外,其余规律都不是绝对的。

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2·The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.(正确句子)
上句中的介宾结构with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia是来修饰compound insect eye。对,这里的with只是一个介宾结构,而不是独立主格。

with的用法大体有两种:a with型独立主格,常在句首或句尾,与主句的主谓有密切关系,也可以说是修饰主句的。在这个句中根本不是。
                                     b with介宾结构,当然可以修饰名词,也可以作方式状语。在这个句子中就是修饰前面紧邻名词the compound insect eye的。
作者: flyoceanwu    时间: 2012-7-27 15:24
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
-- by 会员 蛋蛋音 (2012/7/27 11:01:30)




1·关于代词指代的absolute rule只有两条:
(1) the antecedent must exist
(2) A pronoun and its antecedent must agree in number

也就是,只要不违背这两的代词的指代都不是绝对错误的。其余的情况中,只要代词的指代没有歧义就行。

上面那个题目中的it和its的指代是要相同的,否则就会产生歧义。

关于A of B是poor antecedent的问题,不是说B不能成为antecedent,只是有点poor,原因在于如果A/B数相同,则从语法上讲,指代是有歧义的。虽然这道题目中,尽管A/B数是相同的,但是从逻辑上推测it/its的指代都只能是compound insect eye,问一下自己:structure就只有hundreds of miniature eyes吗?而compound insect eye才是有hundreds of miniature eyes的。再问一问:进化的是structure吗?不,生物体才能进化。另外,即使我们认为structure是可以evolve的,可它能evolve independently of the vertebrate eye吗?不能,独立于the vertebrate eye进化的是compound insect eye,而不是structure。

代词的指代很多都不是绝对的,除了上面两条绝对外,其余规律都不是绝对的。

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2·The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.(正确句子)
上句中的介宾结构with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia是来修饰compound insect eye。对,这里的with只是一个介宾结构,而不是独立主格。

with的用法大体有两种:a with型独立主格,常在句首或句尾,与主句的主谓有密切关系,也可以说是修饰主句的。在这个句中根本不是。
                                     b with介宾结构,当然可以修饰名词,也可以作方式状语。在这个句子中就是修饰前面紧邻名词the compound insect eye的。
-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/27 12:38:15)

想问一下.如果A选项是explains.用having作分词修饰解释the compound insect eyes可以吗?
作者: superbat28    时间: 2012-7-27 16:27
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
-- by 会员 蛋蛋音 (2012/7/27 11:01:30)





1·关于代词指代的absolute rule只有两条:
(1) the antecedent must exist
(2) A pronoun and its antecedent must agree in number

也就是,只要不违背这两的代词的指代都不是绝对错误的。其余的情况中,只要代词的指代没有歧义就行。

上面那个题目中的it和its的指代是要相同的,否则就会产生歧义。

关于A of B是poor antecedent的问题,不是说B不能成为antecedent,只是有点poor,原因在于如果A/B数相同,则从语法上讲,指代是有歧义的。虽然这道题目中,尽管A/B数是相同的,但是从逻辑上推测it/its的指代都只能是compound insect eye,问一下自己:structure就只有hundreds of miniature eyes吗?而compound insect eye才是有hundreds of miniature eyes的。再问一问:进化的是structure吗?不,生物体才能进化。另外,即使我们认为structure是可以evolve的,可它能evolve independently of the vertebrate eye吗?不能,独立于the vertebrate eye进化的是compound insect eye,而不是structure。

代词的指代很多都不是绝对的,除了上面两条绝对外,其余规律都不是绝对的。

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2·The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.(正确句子)
上句中的介宾结构with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia是来修饰compound insect eye。对,这里的with只是一个介宾结构,而不是独立主格。

with的用法大体有两种:a with型独立主格,常在句首或句尾,与主句的主谓有密切关系,也可以说是修饰主句的。在这个句中根本不是。
                                     b with介宾结构,当然可以修饰名词,也可以作方式状语。在这个句子中就是修饰前面紧邻名词the compound insect eye的。
-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/27 12:38:15)


想问一下.如果A选项是explains.用having作分词修饰解释the compound insect eyes可以吗?
-- by 会员 flyoceanwu (2012/7/27 15:24:45)



还是不行的。因为正确选项with its... 更多的是表示一个状态,是和compound insect eye独立的两个同时存在的现象和东西。而having做compound insect eye 的定语就变成了【一个是另一个的附庸,compound insect eye还有一堆其他眼睛】,这个定语本身就背离了逻辑意思。
作者: jeffery2541    时间: 2012-7-27 16:51
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
-- by 会员 蛋蛋音 (2012/7/27 11:01:30)






1·关于代词指代的absolute rule只有两条:
(1) the antecedent must exist
(2) A pronoun and its antecedent must agree in number

也就是,只要不违背这两的代词的指代都不是绝对错误的。其余的情况中,只要代词的指代没有歧义就行。

上面那个题目中的it和its的指代是要相同的,否则就会产生歧义。

关于A of B是poor antecedent的问题,不是说B不能成为antecedent,只是有点poor,原因在于如果A/B数相同,则从语法上讲,指代是有歧义的。虽然这道题目中,尽管A/B数是相同的,但是从逻辑上推测it/its的指代都只能是compound insect eye,问一下自己:structure就只有hundreds of miniature eyes吗?而compound insect eye才是有hundreds of miniature eyes的。再问一问:进化的是structure吗?不,生物体才能进化。另外,即使我们认为structure是可以evolve的,可它能evolve independently of the vertebrate eye吗?不能,独立于the vertebrate eye进化的是compound insect eye,而不是structure。

代词的指代很多都不是绝对的,除了上面两条绝对外,其余规律都不是绝对的。

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2·The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.(正确句子)
上句中的介宾结构with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia是来修饰compound insect eye。对,这里的with只是一个介宾结构,而不是独立主格。

with的用法大体有两种:a with型独立主格,常在句首或句尾,与主句的主谓有密切关系,也可以说是修饰主句的。在这个句中根本不是。
                                     b with介宾结构,当然可以修饰名词,也可以作方式状语。在这个句子中就是修饰前面紧邻名词the compound insect eye的。
-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/27 12:38:15)



想问一下.如果A选项是explains.用having作分词修饰解释the compound insect eyes可以吗?
-- by 会员 flyoceanwu (2012/7/27 15:24:45)




还是不行的。因为正确选项with its... 更多的是表示一个状态,是和compound insect eye独立的两个同时存在的现象和东西。而having做compound insect eye 的定语就变成了【一个是另一个的附庸,compound insect eye还有一堆其他眼睛】,这个定语本身就背离了逻辑意思。
-- by 会员 superbat28 (2012/7/27 16:27:23)





bat大人正解!
作者: ainiAnnie    时间: 2012-8-1 04:31
comma+v-ing前面没有句子而只有名词的时候,应该修饰名词,更准确的说应该是主语。
在这句话中,主语是structure,所以having的结构只能修饰 structure,是不符合逻辑的。
作者: 玄冥太子    时间: 2012-8-13 12:17
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
-- by 会员 蛋蛋音 (2012/7/27 11:01:30)




1·关于代词指代的absolute rule只有两条:
(1) the antecedent must exist
(2) A pronoun and its antecedent must agree in number

也就是,只要不违背这两的代词的指代都不是绝对错误的。其余的情况中,只要代词的指代没有歧义就行。

上面那个题目中的it和its的指代是要相同的,否则就会产生歧义。

关于A of B是poor antecedent的问题,不是说B不能成为antecedent,只是有点poor,原因在于如果A/B数相同,则从语法上讲,指代是有歧义的。虽然这道题目中,尽管A/B数是相同的,但是从逻辑上推测it/its的指代都只能是compound insect eye,问一下自己:structure就只有hundreds of miniature eyes吗?而compound insect eye才是有hundreds of miniature eyes的。再问一问:进化的是structure吗?不,生物体才能进化。另外,即使我们认为structure是可以evolve的,可它能evolve independently of the vertebrate eye吗?不能,独立于the vertebrate eye进化的是compound insect eye,而不是structure。

代词的指代很多都不是绝对的,除了上面两条绝对外,其余规律都不是绝对的。

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2·The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.(正确句子)
上句中的介宾结构with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia是来修饰compound insect eye。对,这里的with只是一个介宾结构,而不是独立主格。

with的用法大体有两种:a with型独立主格,常在句首或句尾,与主句的主谓有密切关系,也可以说是修饰主句的。在这个句中根本不是。
                                     b with介宾结构,当然可以修饰名词,也可以作方式状语。在这个句子中就是修饰前面紧邻名词the compound insect eye的。
-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/27 12:38:15)

但是代词指代不是不能只带touch inside指代所有格里面的词吗?只能its能指代of sth.这里的it还是有指代歧义吧?不懂。。。
作者: superbat28    时间: 2012-8-13 17:13
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.

(A) having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain why scientists have assumed that it

(B) having hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that they

(C) with its hundreds of miniature eyes that are called ommatidia, helps explain scientists’ assuming that they

(D) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, help explain scientists’ assuming that it

(E) with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it



This sentence addresses why scientists have decided that the vertebrate eye and the insect eye evolved independently of each other. The insect eye is much more intricate, with hundreds of miniature eyes. The sentence needs to be clear as to what has hundreds of miniature eyes. The structure or the insect eye? Furthermore, the singular subject intricate structure requires the singular verb helps.

A This wording misleadingly suggests that the intricate structure has miniature eyes, while the correct subject of the predicate having is the compound insect eye. Subject-verb agreement is violated.
B This wording misleads as in (A). Furthermore, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
C The phrase helps explain scientists’ assuming correctly agrees with the subject structure. However, it is nonstandard and awkward; the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted. Finally, the pronoun at the end of the underlined part of the sentence should refer back to the compound insect eye, so it cannot be plural.
D The subject structure and the verb help do not agree in number. As in (C), explain scientists’ assuming is verbose and awkward, and the use of the assuming with the possessive makes the construction unnecessarily complex.
E Correct. The phrase with its hundreds correctly refers back to the compound insect eye. The verb helps correctly agrees with the subject structure. Finally, the pronoun it correctly refers to the singular noun the compound insect eye.
The correct answer is E.

我不太理解会什么最后scientists have assumed that it中的it指代的是compound insect eye而不是The intricate structure of the compound insect eye?虽然从逻辑上说应该是前者,但A of B 的结构中B是poor antecedent吗?而且主语不是sturucture嘛不会有指代歧义么?
还有一个修饰问题,having难道不可以修饰它的紧邻名词eye吗?with独立主格(是独立主格吗?...)不是应该修饰主语structure么?with its中的its又是指代structure还是eye?

虽然说从主谓一致和其他指代(they明显更不对啦)来说可以判断出正确答案E, 但是以上的几点我还是理解不能orz..求各位帮忙解答~拜托了啊米娜桑!
-- by 会员 蛋蛋音 (2012/7/27 11:01:30)





1·关于代词指代的absolute rule只有两条:
(1) the antecedent must exist
(2) A pronoun and its antecedent must agree in number

也就是,只要不违背这两的代词的指代都不是绝对错误的。其余的情况中,只要代词的指代没有歧义就行。

上面那个题目中的it和its的指代是要相同的,否则就会产生歧义。

关于A of B是poor antecedent的问题,不是说B不能成为antecedent,只是有点poor,原因在于如果A/B数相同,则从语法上讲,指代是有歧义的。虽然这道题目中,尽管A/B数是相同的,但是从逻辑上推测it/its的指代都只能是compound insect eye,问一下自己:structure就只有hundreds of miniature eyes吗?而compound insect eye才是有hundreds of miniature eyes的。再问一问:进化的是structure吗?不,生物体才能进化。另外,即使我们认为structure是可以evolve的,可它能evolve independently of the vertebrate eye吗?不能,独立于the vertebrate eye进化的是compound insect eye,而不是structure。

代词的指代很多都不是绝对的,除了上面两条绝对外,其余规律都不是绝对的。

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2·The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia, helps explain why scientists have assumed that it evolved independently of the vertebrate eye.(正确句子)
上句中的介宾结构with its hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia是来修饰compound insect eye。对,这里的with只是一个介宾结构,而不是独立主格。

with的用法大体有两种:a with型独立主格,常在句首或句尾,与主句的主谓有密切关系,也可以说是修饰主句的。在这个句中根本不是。
                                     b with介宾结构,当然可以修饰名词,也可以作方式状语。在这个句子中就是修饰前面紧邻名词the compound insect eye的。
-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/27 12:38:15)


但是代词指代不是不能只带touch inside指代所有格里面的词吗?只能its能指代of sth.这里的it还是有指代歧义吧?不懂。。。
-- by 会员 玄冥太子 (2012/8/13 12:17:26)



尽管这么回复可能会被认为是和稀泥...但是,我还是得这么回复
代词指代在GMAT里不算是一个绝对的语法错误点,或者说【当一道题,其中一个选项是:代词指代不存在歧义,主谓不一致;另一个选项是代词指代有些疑问,而主谓一致】时,肯定选的是后者而不是前者。因为代词指代只是一个从逻辑上决定其指代谁的考点,但其实【代词指代】并不涉及到根本的语法知识点,不像主谓不一致完全就是语法硬伤。


所以说,这道题正确答案却是不perfect,但是在解答这道题的时候,不要一下子就把注意力完全放在代词指代上(除非说,前面说3 people, 后面用him指代,这是语法硬伤)。等把其他语法硬伤选项都排除完了,然后再来看指代问题应该是一个好的解题思路。
作者: 玄冥太子    时间: 2012-8-14 09:49
恩恩,bat牛牛说得好,其实最开始做题的时候根本没发现这个问题,后来刷OG的时候才发觉,好吧,那就不管它了!
作者: wellsli    时间: 2012-8-14 11:18
BAT大神总结的做题真理 受用啊! 啥时候能不能讲讲 做题时 具体应从哪些绝对错误入手  然后到哪些相对错误?~
作者: qiuhua01234567    时间: 2012-8-31 20:27
1楼正解
作者: ddairy199    时间: 2013-2-2 16:11
各位NN,想请教几个noun modifier的问题:
1. verbing 或者 动词的过去分词 是不是紧跟其修饰的名词?
2. 逗号+verbing则是修饰前一句的主语?
3. 那么, ‘逗号+过去分词’修饰的是它前面的名词还是逗号前的句子的主语呢?
4. 比如说:  many of the images date from the time of the Kushan Empire, fashioned from..中fashioned修饰的是Empire还是the images?
5. 另外就是with如果作为介宾短语就修饰它前面的名词是吗?
6. ‘逗号+which’是不是和‘which’一样,都是修饰他们前面的名词?
 如果是noun of noun, which...这样的结构,which又是修饰什么的呢?
7. 非限制性同位语修饰的是否其前面的名词,即符合touch rule吗?


问题有点多。。。但是noun modifier一直都让我很困扰,一会修饰主语,一会又修饰最近的名词。。。所以就一次问个全了。。。
非常感谢!!!
作者: tzhou7    时间: 2013-2-10 15:30
推荐你个贴子,从头到尾看个2遍,估计都会明白了
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-648003-1-1.html?SearchText=OG12%2021
作者: thelastoner    时间: 2013-4-11 08:17
ainiAnnie 发表于 2012-8-1 04:31
comma+v-ing前面没有句子而只有名词的时候,应该修饰名词,更准确的说应该是主语。在这句话中,主语是struc ...

请问comma+v-ing前面是句子的时候是修饰什么呢?
作者: 瑞伊    时间: 2013-4-13 17:36
superbat28 发表于 2012-8-13 17:13
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes ca ...

版主,C项scientists' assuming that 为什么不对呢?这题好乱啊,另外,有和这题相似的疑问,我已经发了求解帖了看了BAT的帖,仍有另外一些题的疑问,急求关于V-ing其他的解释
http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-835880-1-1.html,实在搞不懂,求版主帮忙解释,大谢啊!
作者: ainiAnnie    时间: 2013-4-16 21:10
thelastoner 发表于 2013-4-11 08:17
请问comma+v-ing前面是句子的时候是修饰什么呢?

comma+v-ing前面是句子的时候,修饰前面整个句子啊,就是既修饰主语,又修饰谓语~
作者: ainiAnnie    时间: 2013-4-16 22:20
今天又看了这道题目,还是觉得这道题的代词指代问题好捉急,估计会在考场上反应不过来。。。。
作者: enkyklios    时间: 2013-4-17 02:37
代词指代
作者: 静静宛如jc    时间: 2013-6-24 21:11
jeffery2541 发表于 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called o ...

讲的很清楚,谢谢!!!
作者: njubei07    时间: 2013-7-11 02:40
jeffery2541 发表于 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called o ...

讲得很棒!

补充两句
1. COMMA+V-ing 结构是对主句动词的一种补充,一种修饰,一种延展
一般要求动作的发出者和主句的subject是相同的。这里很显然,无论是structure or eye 当 COMMA+V-ing 结构的逻辑主语都很怪,因为具有miniature eyes是一种状态,而不一种动作,have表达的动作是从无到有的,insect的miniature eyes是天生的,不存在从无到有这个动作。

看OG另一个题目
Neuroscientists, having amassed a wealth of knowledge over the past twenty years about the brain and its development from birth to adulthood, are now drawing solid conclusions about how the human brain grows and how babies acquire language.

这里Neuroscientists 在过去的20年内已经掌握了丰富的知识,主句subject是神经学家,动作是having amassed,所以这里COMMA+V-ing作为一种补充很合适。

with修饰一种状态,在原题就显得很得体了,bat大大已经讲透了。


2. 指代不能成为枪毙答案的主要标准,OG很多OA指代都ambiguous

作者: helen3615    时间: 2013-9-4 09:43
jeffery2541 发表于 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called o ...

谢谢TX解答疑惑,我这道题虽然用agreement选对了但是指代和with这两个点还是很模糊!
作者: liwen0625    时间: 2013-9-6 09:13
jeffery2541 发表于 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called o ...

我想问一下你你说的with做介宾结构修饰名词,那么遵循就近原则吗,就是离with最近的名词是被修饰的对象?
作者: jeffery2541    时间: 2013-9-9 04:57
liwen0625 发表于 2013-9-6 09:13
我想问一下你你说的with做介宾结构修饰名词,那么遵循就近原则吗,就是离with最近的名词是被修饰的对象? ...

名词修饰语都是要就近指代,但是都有跳跃指代的情况。
作者: AresMa    时间: 2013-10-29 11:40
Ron说过pronoun的问题是可以有妥协的,正如Bat大人说的,不是硬伤。而且pronoun大多跟意思相关,理解了意思才能正确的了解代指。

本题中划线之后讲 X evolve independently of the vertebrate eye.其中evolve of为进化成(而不是evolve out of)脊椎动物的眼睛。 从意思上讲: insect eye(有一堆小眼睛)→进化成 脊椎动物的eye. 所以不可能是小眼睛进化成脊椎动物的眼睛,也不可能是intricate structure进化成眼睛,而是insect eye。

从意思和常识上是可以排除的。But all in all, 这个不是明显的split
作者: cdbgin009    时间: 2013-12-11 11:02
玄冥太子 发表于 2012-8-13 12:17
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes calle ...

n. of ...属于touch rule例外的一种,此时的modifiers修饰的是整个n. of ...结构

touch rule有四种例外:上面是第一种,第二种是几个modifiers平行的时候,除了第一个modifiers要touch之外,其他几个可以不用touch,因为有平行结构的约束,不会产生歧义;第三种是在被修饰的名词与名词的修饰成分之间存在短的谓语;第四种是在被修饰的名词与名词的修饰成分之间存在一个不必要的短的名词的修饰成分
作者: cdbgin009    时间: 2013-12-11 11:09
thelastoner 发表于 2013-4-11 08:17
请问comma+v-ing前面是句子的时候是修饰什么呢?

现代分词加逗号两种情况,要么是在句末,做结果状语,要么就是作为动词的修饰成分,在修饰动词的同时,也修饰句子的主语。句子的主语是the structure of...,这样看来,就相当与structure have many small eyes,结构怎么可以有eyes?这在逻辑上是解释不通的。至少应该是insect有眼睛才对
作者: jennychiu    时间: 2014-1-12 16:30
superbat28 发表于 2012-8-13 17:13
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes ca ...

BAT, 我想问一下在OG的解释里面说 assuming的所有格式是unwarranted.为什么? 选项D里面的解释说explain scientists' assuming 是awkward.我认同这种写法很verbose.但是为什么 awkward.我认为这两个词不是一件事情吧~
作者: sogoodwow    时间: 2014-2-19 21:42
jeffery2541 发表于 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called o ...

解释得很精彩
作者: 晓澜静荷    时间: 2014-4-16 16:12
ainiAnnie 发表于 2012-8-1 04:31
comma+v-ing前面没有句子而只有名词的时候,应该修饰名词,更准确的说应该是主语。在这句话中,主语是struc ...

赞!!!

作者: 晓澜静荷    时间: 2014-4-16 16:16
tzhou7 发表于 2013-2-10 15:30
推荐你个贴子,从头到尾看个2遍,估计都会明白了http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-648003-1-1.h ...

赞一下!!!!!多谢分享!
作者: TINGYI-2014    时间: 2014-4-16 18:23
AresMa 发表于 2013-10-29 11:40
Ron说过pronoun的问题是可以有妥协的,正如Bat大人说的,不是硬伤。而且pronoun大多跟意思相关,理解了意思 ...

hi,我在想这个evolve independently of the vertebrate eye,中的of是不是和independently是词组呢(而非和evolve一起组成词组)?牛津中independently of 表示独立于。若此,这句话解释为,昆虫眼睛的复杂结构,解释了为何科学家认为昆虫的眼睛进化是独立于脊椎动物的眼睛的。不知道如此解释可否?
作者: popeyeispop    时间: 2014-5-5 22:05
wellsli 发表于 2012-8-14 11:18
BAT大神总结的做题真理 受用啊! 啥时候能不能讲讲 做题时 具体应从哪些绝对错误入手  然后到哪些相对 ...

只能靠自己總結
建議多看Manhattan RON的解釋
這個點他強調很多次了
作者: 18080877046    时间: 2014-8-2 11:31
I am still confused with the use of with. Could we use "with" modifiy the preceding clause or just modify the noun before comma? what is the differeces between "with preposition phrase"and "Ving"?
作者: 猫小雯雯    时间: 2014-11-4 21:04
NN解释的好好,一下子就明白了~~原来有的错误是相对的。。。这个题目凝结了好多语法知识
作者: Hendy    时间: 2014-12-28 21:38
jeffery2541 发表于 2012-7-27 12:38
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes called o ...

真正的语法帝
作者: nan_92    时间: 2016-2-12 09:05
njubei07 发表于 2013-7-11 02:40
讲得很棒!

补充两句

同意!               
作者: elusive    时间: 2016-2-18 12:20
做题时的策略:
having和with都没错。
后面help错了因为structure单数,删除AD,然后最后的they错了,structure不等于they而是it,所以E对了!

做题前面不好判断就看中间和后面!

作者: shirleyv587    时间: 2016-4-23 20:17
jennychiu 发表于 2014-1-12 16:30
BAT, 我想问一下在OG的解释里面说 assuming的所有格式是unwarranted.为什么? 选项D里面的解释说explain ...

同意!               
作者: shirleyv587    时间: 2016-4-23 20:29
jennychiu 发表于 2014-1-12 16:30
BAT, 我想问一下在OG的解释里面说 assuming的所有格式是unwarranted.为什么? 选项D里面的解释说explain ...

查了字典assume的名词形式是assumption,所以assuming只是动词的ing形式,是不能用所有格的
作者: 亲爱的敌人    时间: 2016-6-5 00:50
mark一个
作者: 御寒    时间: 2017-2-3 11:40
superbat28 发表于 2012-8-13 17:13
7. The intricate structure of the compound insect eye, having hundreds of miniature eyes ca ...

同意!               
作者: LeoZhang47    时间: 2017-2-25 06:46
首先,整个句子说的是The gyrfalcon,是个物种,所以肯定不是their,CD错;然后看比较,xxx than when应该是俩那个时间状语的比较,AB排除;
作者: LeoZhang47    时间: 2017-2-25 07:04
A, 单数主语要用单数谓语helps;名词修饰语having hundreds of miniature eyes called ommatidia修饰主语intricate structure错误,intricate structure不能做其逻辑主语,意思不同
Ving做修饰的时候是opening modifier,修饰主语,所以这里不对;with…是名词修饰语可以靠近修饰Compounded eye,正确
B, 同A,they这里找不到合适的指代主体,是在说hundreds of miniature eyes?不通
C, scientists’ assuming用法错误,assume有名词形式-assumption
D, helps,assumption

作者: 比莉    时间: 2017-2-26 17:07
感谢帮助到17年的我
作者: hihiha    时间: 2017-4-28 16:08
想问一下大家:
C选项 scientists’ assuming 这里,OG说 the use of assuming with the possessive is unwarranted,意思是所有one's doing都不被允许还是说这里存在什么特殊情况呢?
求大神回复!
作者: 噜啦啦biu    时间: 2017-8-4 17:55
XIEXIE   
作者: 葱花kdku    时间: 2017-9-21 18:58
好帖子..
作者: 神粥八宝    时间: 2017-12-4 09:42
感谢分享!               
作者: Ivy蓝蓝蓝蓝    时间: 2018-3-16 22:01
superbat28 发表于 2012-7-27 16:27
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谢谢bat解答了内心的困惑,感谢!
作者: 小鱼蛋    时间: 2018-6-23 14:58
啊啊啊啊感谢!
作者: balakong    时间: 2019-2-25 00:27
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作者: 超级稀饭    时间: 2019-5-16 16:49
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