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作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 14:30
标题: 求解一个知识点，谢谢~

15. Many experts regarded the large increase in credit card borrowing in March not as a sign that households were pressed for cash and forced to borrow, rather a sign of confidence by households that they could safely handle new debt.；

(A) rather a sign of confidence by households that they could safely

(B) yet as a sign of households' confidence that it was safe for them to

(D) but as a sign that households were confident they could safely

(E) but also as a sign that households were confident in their ability safely to

这道题对于also的用法不太理解OG原话：E. The use of the word also is misleading here.If the first embedded clause is negated,the affirmed second clause cannot also be true.

求解~

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 14:32

38. Bengal-born writer, philosopher, and educator Rabindranath Tagore had the greatest admiration for Mohandas K. Gandhi the person and also as a politician, but Tagore had been skeptical of Gandhi's form of nationalism and his conservative opinions about India's cultural traditions.

(A) for Mohandas K. Gandhi the person and also as a politician, but Tagore had been

(B) for Mohandas K. Gandhi as a person and as a politician, but Tagore was also

(D) of Mohandas K. Gandhi as a person and as also a politician, but Tagore was

(E) of Mohandas K. Gandhi not only as a person and as a politician, but Tagore had also been

这道Dand also又重复了，应是Tagore was also，为什么呢？

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 15:29
15题是不是说，the first clause is a negative point.so if we use the "also",the second clause must be negative point.

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 19:21

15题是不是说，the first clause is a negative point.so if we use the "also",the second clause must be negative point.

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 15:29:20)

我来啦~~~

15题中的结构应该是是not...but，而E选项中则错误地写成了not...but also，是个“混搭”错误。

这个结构错误的原因，我想，应该是but also连用时，逻辑上表达的是递进的意思，那么前后的两个clause应该说的至少是一个方向的观点，而不能是方向恰好相反的两个观点。

此时，我又想到了not only...，but also...的结构，这个结构同样，是要求平行的，平列的两部分在逻辑上是递进的意思，而且这个结构不可以用于否定句中。

就是这样吧~~

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 19:29
谢啦～恩，应该是这个意思，噢能帮忙解答一个另一个问题吗？

97. Some anthropologists believe that the genetic homogeneity evident in the world's people is the result of a "population bottleneck"—at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event, greatly reducing their numbers and thus our genetic variation.

(A) at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event, greatly reducing their numbers

(B) that at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event that greatly reduced their numbers

(D) some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event from which their numbers were greatly reduced

(E) some time in the past, that our ancestors suffered an event so as to reduce their numbers greatly,

破折号在这里是什么功能？还有，一般看到破折号要如何处理，有破折号在，没看出来考平行

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 19:39
刚才查了牛津高阶，also不和否定的动词连用。

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 19:40
回复的时候一定要引用啊~~要不看不到的。。。

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 19:59
对also表达的意思我有这样的理解：它的意思可以翻译成“而且”更合适，至少这样更有助于解题。

also表达的意思总是在前面句子意思上的延伸。

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 20:12

对also表达的意思我有这样的理解：它的意思可以翻译成“而且”更合适，至少这样更有助于解题。

also表达的意思总是在前面句子意思上的延伸。

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/22 19:59:12)

嗯~很清楚了，谢谢~jeffery

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 21:45

谢啦～恩，应该是这个意思，噢能帮忙解答一个另一个问题吗？

(A) at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event, greatly reducing their numbers

(B) that at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event that greatly reduced their numbers

(D) some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event from which their numbers were greatly reduced

(E) some time in the past, that our ancestors suffered an event so as to reduce their numbers greatly,

破折号在这里是什么功能？还有，一般看到破折号要如何处理，有破折号在，没看出来考平行

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 19:29:51)

这道题答案应该是A吧。

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你的问题应该是有两个：1·破折号的功能以及解题时怎样处理？
2·怎样看出考平行？

1·破折号在GMAT语法中主要有两个功能：a转折 b解释说明：
a转折：作用相当于but，出现时可能会是这种场景：“...—... .”，破折号后面内容是完整句子，这种用法不是很多；
b解释说明：用于解释说明的内容的可以是名词，也可以是句子，解释的内容前是破格号，后面可以是破折号或逗号，起到的都是分隔的作用，这种用法最常见。比如在这道题中就是解释说明的作用，解释说明了人类学家所坚信的那一观点的原因，最后因为是句子结尾了，所以就是句号了；

当然，明白这些功能后，对破折号的处理可能就得心应手很多了。处理时，首先要弄明白破折号展示的是哪一种功能，然后处理起来就会很有针对性了。破折号在内容上，或者在逻辑意思上很简单明白，其他的可能就是对句子结构的要求了“破折号+破折号”和“破折号+逗号”可以将破折号引导的东西分隔起来，内部的内容可以是名词结构也可以是句子，另外需要注意的是避免出现run-on句型。（一般破折号后面是句子来解释说明的时候，后面也会是破折号或句尾。）

2·我们应该都很熟悉要求平行的结构，识别出这样的结构是处理平行的前提；
对于and的平行，我建议从两方面来考虑：a先结构方：从and开始向前找可以在语法上平行的结构，有时唯一，有时不唯一 b在语义：从找到的可以在语法上平行的结构中，根据语义进一步筛选；

这样应该就万无一失了。一般做题时，a容易做到，b就要求对语义很好的理解了。

另外我感觉此处有一个技巧就是，要从and向前寻找，考察平行。（当然有时也向后。）

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看看我说的哪里不明白？我在线~

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 23:10

谢啦～恩，应该是这个意思，噢能帮忙解答一个另一个问题吗？

(A) at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event, greatly reducing their numbers

(B) that at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event that greatly reduced their numbers

(D) some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event from which their numbers were greatly reduced

(E) some time in the past, that our ancestors suffered an event so as to reduce their numbers greatly,

破折号在这里是什么功能？还有，一般看到破折号要如何处理，有破折号在，没看出来考平行

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 19:29:51)

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/22 21:45:43)

你的意思是说破折号后面的部分是对the genetic homogeneity evident in the world's people is the result of a "population bottleneck"这句话的解释,相当于in other words.
开始没有了解句子意思以为是对于population bottleneck的解释。那么可以说，破折号后面的内容既可以是对前面句子的解释，也可以是对词的解释？--------一直以为只能对词进行解释
OG的解释，不太明白.对于A项，The structure makes that clause appear to be an awkward and rhetorically puzzling separate assertion that the writer has appended to the prior claim about what the anthropologists.------------神马意思？
对于破折号，也就说根据句子意思判断破折号的功能，再选择符合语法的结构的选项！-----------我找几道练练！

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 23:26

谢啦～恩，应该是这个意思，噢能帮忙解答一个另一个问题吗？

(A) at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event, greatly reducing their numbers

(B) that at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event that greatly reduced their numbers

(D) some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event from which their numbers were greatly reduced

(E) some time in the past, that our ancestors suffered an event so as to reduce their numbers greatly,

破折号在这里是什么功能？还有，一般看到破折号要如何处理，有破折号在，没看出来考平行

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 19:29:51)

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/22 21:45:43)

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 23:10:31)

这个题是OG的哪一道呢？好没有印象。。。。

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 23:30
OG13中新增部分

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-22 23:31

OG13中新增部分

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 23:30:27)

答案是哪个呢？

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-22 23:34
答案是B

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-23 00:05

答案是B

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 23:34:43)

对于这道题，你理解了吗？

分享一下吧~

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-23 00:12

谢啦～恩，应该是这个意思，噢能帮忙解答一个另一个问题吗？

(A) at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event, greatly reducing their numbers

(B) that at some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event that greatly reduced their numbers

(D) some time in the past our ancestors suffered an event from which their numbers were greatly reduced

(E) some time in the past, that our ancestors suffered an event so as to reduce their numbers greatly,

破折号在这里是什么功能？还有，一般看到破折号要如何处理，有破折号在，没看出来考平行

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 19:29:51)

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/22 21:45:43)

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 23:10:31)

这个题是OG的哪一道呢？好没有印象。。。。

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/22 23:26:04)

按照我原本的想法，我理解这道题里的破折号后面的部分就是对the genetic homogeneity evident in the world's people is the result of a "population bottleneck"这句话的解释,可是既然答案是B，那么就应该是对于population bottleneck的解释，是一个同位语从句了。这点是我错了。
这道题真的颠覆了我以前对破折号的理解。

至于A的解释，我也不是很理解。

作者: miffyhui 时间: 2012-7-23 00:19

按照我原本的想法，我理解这道题里的破折号后面的部分就是对the genetic homogeneity evident in the world's people is the result of a "population bottleneck"这句话的解释,可是既然答案是B，那么就应该是对于population bottleneck的解释，是一个同位语从句了。这点是我错了。
这道题真的颠覆了我以前对破折号的理解。

至于A的解释，我也不是很理解。

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/23 0:12:30)

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没有，这句话中的that从句作believe的宾语，是解释前面部分，重述也算把它解释了一番吧！
OG的解释是这么说的
Scientists believe that X----[ in other words] that Y,In this construction,X and Y are parallel.

作者: jeffery2541 时间: 2012-7-23 07:21

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/23 0:12:30)

没有，这句话中的that从句作believe的宾语，是解释前面部分，重述也算把它解释了一番吧！
OG的解释是这么说的
Scientists believe that X----[ in other words] that Y,In this construction,X and Y are parallel.

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/23 0:19:09)

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恩呢恩呢~~~
这样解释更合理啦~~

作者: echosangsang 时间: 2012-7-25 11:33

15题是不是说，the first clause is a negative point.so if we use the "also",the second clause must be negative point.

-- by 会员 miffyhui (2012/7/22 15:29:20)

-- by 会员 jeffery2541 (2012/7/22 19:21:39)

亲，but also单独使用是表达转折的意思吧，在prep08的197题中出现过这种情况啊~

作者: Milletwoo 时间: 2013-10-23 23:11

miffyhui 发表于 2012-7-22 14:32
38. Bengal-born writer, philosopher, and educator Rabindranath Tagore had the greatest admiration fo ...

请问下楼主知道这里as a person and as a politician中的as a person什么意思啊？作为一个人？！

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