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标题: 求牛人解答! OG13-132 最不知所措的SC [打印本页]
作者: joshuacjy    时间: 2012-7-8 20:10
标题: 求牛人解答! OG13-132 最不知所措的SC
做完了OG13的语法部分...其中大部分的题目很原来都没有什么变化..唯独这一题实在是令人十分纠结.. 也没看懂OG的答案的意思..求各位牛牛解答.
这题目有另一哥们之前发过但没有高手解答.重发一次求助啊!!!!


OG13-132：
Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year – they are often green and striped, or have plenty of bumps and bruises-heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.

A Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
B Although heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
C Although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
D Grown from seeds saved during the previous year, heirloom tomatoes appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
E Heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins

有牛人可以帮忙每个选项解释一下吗..太揪心了...TT

作者: bob9603    时间: 2012-7-9 00:15
楼主好，小菜刚看了你的帖子，先说一下：麻烦楼主的字大一点，要不即使是想帮你看的人，也看不清啊~~我是放大150倍才看的，记得改下你的字体大小~~

然后小菜说一下这道题吧，个人意见，不知道对不对，我没有og13，这题貌似是新的吧，这题是选c吗？
如果是的话，那我分析一下~

这题although开头~全句看完，就有种感觉，后面未划线部分的：heirlooms 一定在although的从句中作主语，而although又一定是要有svo的，所以A肯定就不对了，压根就没有sv~
B一看，就是改变原意了~原句主要想说的是heirlooms 的问题，而这个就成了heirloom tomatoes这个东西了~
C，个人认为是正确答案~
D,我一看就没有转折的感觉，因为原句还是多少有点比较的感觉——although里面有个less than，所以到了主句，就有了heirlooms 的more than，即有点的东西，正好对比，看上去也很舒服~所以这就直接排除了~
E，虽然有了although，但是那个位置，使得里面的they有点歧义：逻辑上指heirlooms ，但语法上可以指代Heirloom tomatoes~

不知道对不对，open to discuss~
作者: joshuacjy    时间: 2012-7-10 09:11
楼主好，小菜刚看了你的帖子，先说一下：麻烦楼主的字大一点，要不即使是想帮你看的人，也看不清啊~~我是放大150倍才看的，记得改下你的字体大小~~

然后小菜说一下这道题吧，个人意见，不知道对不对，我没有og13，这题貌似是新的吧，这题是选c吗？
如果是的话，那我分析一下~

这题although开头~全句看完，就有种感觉，后面未划线部分的：heirlooms 一定在although的从句中作主语，而although又一定是要有svo的，所以A肯定就不对了，压根就没有sv~
B一看，就是改变原意了~原句主要想说的是heirlooms 的问题，而这个就成了heirloom tomatoes这个东西了~
C，个人认为是正确答案~
D,我一看就没有转折的感觉，因为原句还是多少有点比较的感觉——although里面有个less than，所以到了主句，就有了heirlooms 的more than，即有点的东西，正好对比，看上去也很舒服~所以这就直接排除了~
E，虽然有了although，但是那个位置，使得里面的they有点歧义：逻辑上指heirlooms ，但语法上可以指代Heirloom tomatoes~

不知道对不对，open to discuss~
-- by 会员 bob9603 (2012/7/9 0:15:26)



谢谢楼上!!!好感动你的耐心解答！也谢谢提醒~以后一定会积累发帖经验!
不过这题OG答案是选B...我实在各种搞不懂...在此贴一下OG的解释..看哪位好心人也能帮忙分析分析..


A This is ungrammatical. If heirloom tomatoes is the subject of are more flavorful... then heirlooms has no predicate and is nonsensically superfluous. If heirlooms is the subject, heirloom tomatoes has no predicate.


B Correct. The noun heirloom tomatoes is mentioned early in the sentence, followed by a parenthetical definition, and is the subject
of the verb appear, and heirlooms is the subject of are.


C The noun heirloom tomatoes appears too late in the sentence. Parsing is made harder by introducing the pronoun they and revealing its antecedent later in the sentence. The sentence is also ungrammatical. If heirloom tomatoes is the subject of are more flavorful...then heirlooms has no predicate and is nonsensically superfluous. If heirlooms is the subject, heirloom tomatoes has no predicate.


D Beginning the sentence with the explanatory clause grown from seeds... gives it too much importance. It could be construed as the reason why heirloom tomatoes appear less appetizing,which is contrary to the truth.
The sentence is also ungrammatical.


E Rhetorical structure requires that although appear in the beginning of the clause to which it pertains. Placing it later necessitates the pronoun they with antecedent heirloom tomatoes, which is redundant. The sentence is also ungrammatical.
作者: fantasy198    时间: 2012-7-10 12:05
因为题目很长，此题我认为关键是仔细读题意    选B

原题题意翻译过来是：虽然没有它的同类鲜美诱人，heirloom tomatoes，从其去年的种子成长而来------（they are often。。。） 他们通常是绿色的，带有条纹的，或者带有很多块口味儿不错的果肉所以销量还不错。


1.破折号后面的they， 一定不是指代seeds，而是指代heirloom tomatoes，所以排除A和C选项。

2. D选项乍看语法都对，但是少了although转折，就改变了句意。使原句没有了转折含义，即：虽然外形没有其他西红柿好看，但是口味不错（注意后半句有个more flavorble  也是表示转折）          所以D 错误。

3.  E选项的although位置不舒服，而且they 指代前面的seeds 还是Heirloom tomatoes 分不清。 错误。
作者: joshuacjy    时间: 2012-7-10 12:58
因为题目很长，此题我认为关键是仔细读题意    选B

原题题意翻译过来是：虽然没有它的同类鲜美诱人，heirloom tomatoes，从其去年的种子成长而来------（they are often。。。） 他们通常是绿色的，带有条纹的，或者带有很多块口味儿不错的果肉所以销量还不错。


1.破折号后面的they， 一定不是指代seeds，而是指代heirloom tomatoes，所以排除A和C选项。

2. D选项乍看语法都对，但是少了although转折，就改变了句意。使原句没有了转折含义，即：虽然外形没有其他西红柿好看，但是口味不错（注意后半句有个more flavorble  也是表示转折）          所以D 错误。

3.  E选项的although位置不舒服，而且they 指代前面的seeds 还是Heirloom tomatoes 分不清。 错误。
-- by 会员 fantasy198 (2012/7/10 12:05:59)



谢谢楼上!看着解释觉得好pro..
不过小弟还是没有太明白你解释中的第一条为什么they不指代seeds就能直接排除AC呢..我理解句意肯定不是指代seeds，可是没明白你是怎么排除的..
还有我仔细读了好多遍ABC三项，发现像AC的话如果Heirloom Tomatoes放在consins后面，是不是会有同位语的歧义呢?
作者: ArsTiti    时间: 2012-7-10 15:44
AC选项中的Heirloom tomatoes应该是同位语部分，而不是主语，所以后面的they根据代词的指代顺序应该是优先指代seeds，但是很明显they不应该是指代seeds，所以排除AC，个人觉得
作者: xxsyj    时间: 2012-7-10 17:58
我是这样看的
1、句子有转折的意思，虽然less appetizing但是more flavorful，所以D排除。
2、ACE都有一个问题，就是句子结构问题。这句句子although是从句，heirlooms are more flavorful是主句，主句已经完整
但是A中，although引导的句子中heirloom tomatoes（subject）无谓语句子不完整
C中，已经有一句they appear,已经完整，而句中出现的heirloom tomatoes无verb，此时主句已经是完整句子，从句中出现的heirloom tomatoes无任何意义...
E中，除了although位子很奇怪，开头heirloom tomatoes同样无verb...
ACE都单独出现了heirloom tomatoes而没有谓语。B中heirloom tomatoes可以引导一个完整句子。我不知道这样看对不对- -|||关于代词指代这边甚不能理解...我为什么觉得OG13还有好多题目让我不知所措...
作者: ladyMcc    时间: 2012-7-10 19:21
这道题的关键就是看heirlooms和heirloom tomatoes有无谓语。可以排除ACE
其次，句子有转折。D中改变了句子的原意。
作者: memory210882    时间: 2012-7-11 08:52
请问各位NN，在og对D的解释里说这个句子ungrammatical就是指改变了句子的逻辑语义的意思吗？没有其他错误吗？
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-7-11 13:06
做完了OG13的语法部分...其中大部分的题目很原来都没有什么变化..唯独这一题实在是令人十分纠结.. 也没看懂OG的答案的意思..求各位牛牛解答.
这题目有另一哥们之前发过但没有高手解答.重发一次求助啊!!!!


OG13-132：
Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year – they are often green and striped, or have plenty of bumps and bruises-heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.

A Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
B Although heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
C Although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
D Grown from seeds saved during the previous year, heirloom tomatoes appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
E Heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins

有牛人可以帮忙每个选项解释一下吗..太揪心了...TT

-- by 会员 joshuacjy (2012/7/8 20:10:26)



这题每个选项挨个看肯定费时间，所以我觉得简单方法就是先提主干找split. 提主干的时候，两个破折号中间的部分纯粹属于插入语，去掉不管。主干就是：


_______________________, heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.


后半句是个完整的independent clause. 所以前面空格处该是
类似这样的：Although SVO   (as a dependent clause)
或者是这样的：Although adj   （比如"although appearing less appetizing")


然后扫视每个选项，分别提取空格处的主干，跟以上模板对照：
A. heirloom tomatoes
B. Although heirloom tomatoes appear
C. Although they appear, heirloom tomatoes
D. Heirloom tomatoes appear
E. Heirloom tomatoes, although they appear


只有B符合语法要求（也就是上面的模板 Although SVO）。搞定！


如果还不放心的话，把破折号加进去，这下考察B的修饰语。有个原则，就是诸如modifier placement中讨论的，这部分描述什么，就要离什么更靠近些。发现破折号中间这部分，尽管什么bumps and bruises我不懂什么意思，但是green and striped我懂，正好和round and red形成鲜明对比啊！所以说破折号中间的内容需要靠近round and red才能体现出这个“鲜明对比”的意思。联想起Ron说的，dash的一种用法就是表示surprising, irony, ...
所以这一点也验证了我选的B是正确的。
其他有的选项，例如A/C, 把round and red离破折号中间的green and striped老远老远，肯定就不对了。
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-7-11 13:11
D的although没有了，不仅仅是逻辑错误，语法上就错，成了Run-on. 所以说ungrammatical.


"It has something bad, it has something good. " 这是个run-on sentence.
"Although it has something bad, it has something good. " 这样才对，dependent clause + independent clause.




请问各位NN，在og对D的解释里说这个句子ungrammatical就是指改变了句子的逻辑语义的意思吗？没有其他错误吗？
-- by 会员 memory210882 (2012/7/11 8:52:01)

作者: joshuacjy    时间: 2012-7-12 15:01
做完了OG13的语法部分...其中大部分的题目很原来都没有什么变化..唯独这一题实在是令人十分纠结.. 也没看懂OG的答案的意思..求各位牛牛解答.
这题目有另一哥们之前发过但没有高手解答.重发一次求助啊!!!!


OG13-132：
Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year – they are often green and striped, or have plenty of bumps and bruises-heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.

A Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
B Although heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
C Although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
D Grown from seeds saved during the previous year, heirloom tomatoes appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
E Heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins

有牛人可以帮忙每个选项解释一下吗..太揪心了...TT

-- by 会员 joshuacjy (2012/7/8 20:10:26)




这题每个选项挨个看肯定费时间，所以我觉得简单方法就是先提主干找split. 提主干的时候，两个破折号中间的部分纯粹属于插入语，去掉不管。主干就是：


_______________________, heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.


后半句是个完整的independent clause. 所以前面空格处该是
类似这样的：Although SVO   (as a dependent clause)
或者是这样的：Although adj   （比如"although appearing less appetizing")


然后扫视每个选项，分别提取空格处的主干，跟以上模板对照：
A. heirloom tomatoes
B. Although heirloom tomatoes appear
C. Although they appear, heirloom tomatoes
D. Heirloom tomatoes appear
E. Heirloom tomatoes, although they appear


只有B符合语法要求（也就是上面的模板 Although SVO）。搞定！


如果还不放心的话，把破折号加进去，这下考察B的修饰语。有个原则，就是诸如modifier placement中讨论的，这部分描述什么，就要离什么更靠近些。发现破折号中间这部分，尽管什么bumps and bruises我不懂什么意思，但是green and striped我懂，正好和round and red形成鲜明对比啊！所以说破折号中间的内容需要靠近round and red才能体现出这个“鲜明对比”的意思。联想起Ron说的，dash的一种用法就是表示surprising, irony, ...
所以这一点也验证了我选的B是正确的。
其他有的选项，例如A/C, 把round and red离破折号中间的green and striped老远老远，肯定就不对了。
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/7/11 13:06:53)



久闻Baby姐大名!!!这道题一下子就明朗了!!!
突然觉得豁然开朗...感谢上面的战友们对这道题的贡献了~~
作者: jiaoguitar    时间: 2012-7-12 16:36
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-735356-1-1.html
作者: Grace1211    时间: 2012-7-26 09:14
做完了OG13的语法部分...其中大部分的题目很原来都没有什么变化..唯独这一题实在是令人十分纠结.. 也没看懂OG的答案的意思..求各位牛牛解答.
这题目有另一哥们之前发过但没有高手解答.重发一次求助啊!!!!


OG13-132：
Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year – they are often green and striped, or have plenty of bumps and bruises-heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.

A Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
B Although heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
C Although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
D Grown from seeds saved during the previous year, heirloom tomatoes appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
E Heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins

有牛人可以帮忙每个选项解释一下吗..太揪心了...TT

-- by 会员 joshuacjy (2012/7/8 20:10:26)




这题每个选项挨个看肯定费时间，所以我觉得简单方法就是先提主干找split. 提主干的时候，两个破折号中间的部分纯粹属于插入语，去掉不管。主干就是：


_______________________, heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.


后半句是个完整的independent clause. 所以前面空格处该是
类似这样的：Although SVO   (as a dependent clause)
或者是这样的：Although adj   （比如"although appearing less appetizing")


然后扫视每个选项，分别提取空格处的主干，跟以上模板对照：
A. heirloom tomatoes
B. Although heirloom tomatoes appear
C. Although they appear, heirloom tomatoes
D. Heirloom tomatoes appear
E. Heirloom tomatoes, although they appear


只有B符合语法要求（也就是上面的模板 Although SVO）。搞定！


如果还不放心的话，把破折号加进去，这下考察B的修饰语。有个原则，就是诸如modifier placement中讨论的，这部分描述什么，就要离什么更靠近些。发现破折号中间这部分，尽管什么bumps and bruises我不懂什么意思，但是green and striped我懂，正好和round and red形成鲜明对比啊！所以说破折号中间的内容需要靠近round and red才能体现出这个“鲜明对比”的意思。联想起Ron说的，dash的一种用法就是表示surprising, irony, ...
所以这一点也验证了我选的B是正确的。
其他有的选项，例如A/C, 把round and red离破折号中间的green and striped老远老远，肯定就不对了。
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/7/11 13:06:53)



我想问一下 although后面不是应该是一个independent clause 嘛， 为啥although appearing也可能是对的呢
作者: Irisyf    时间: 2012-7-26 09:33
好清晰~！
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-7-26 10:02

我想问一下 although后面不是应该是一个independent clause 嘛， 为啥although appearing也可能是对的呢
-- by 会员 Grace1211 (2012/7/26 9:14:14)



Good question!
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-527959-1-1.html
作者: ninamikou    时间: 2012-7-26 20:16
从主谓分析 马上派出ACE
然后D中把原来转折语气去掉
所以选B
作者: starchh    时间: 2012-12-11 13:22
baby果然厉害
作者: ARG    时间: 2013-6-9 23:01
久闻Baby姐大名，百闻不如一见！赞
作者: 小白出国    时间: 2013-7-14 05:22
我怎么认为插入语应该直接跟 要修饰的词后面，所以这个也是一个好的排除方法。
作者: ljwqlcl881703    时间: 2013-7-20 02:49
肯定有人能帮忙  想问清楚 C、E 中 they指代问题  怎么就指代seeds去了  seeds还是介词后面的  指代真的好晕  见到指代就想撕书！！！
作者: thesuperleo    时间: 2013-10-8 10:59
babybearmm 发表于 2012-7-11 13:06
做完了OG13的语法部分...其中大部分的题目很原来都没有什么变化..唯独这一题实在是令人十分纠结.. 也没 ...

baby姐我还有个疑问,这里的正确答案b. Although heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins – they are often green and striped, or have plenty of bumps and bruises – heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.
这个they are often green and striped紧跟着round and red supermarket cousins, 让我忍不住感觉这个they就是修饰cousins的.虽然从逻辑的角度讲这个they修饰heirloom tomatoes,意思是heirloom颜色发绿而且带条纹blablabla但heirloom好吃所以需求量大增.这个b选项的cousins紧挨they不会引起歧义么?
谢谢!
作者: caroline莲莲    时间: 2013-11-22 17:24
对E选项OG的解释有点迷惑
Placing it later necessitates the pronoun "they" with antecedent "HT", which is redundant.
这句话是什么意思呢？
作者: guagua13    时间: 2013-12-10 01:53
heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.

求解这个句子里in increasing是什么用法

———

be in demand... 突然脑抽了 - -
作者: zzloveyibo    时间: 2014-4-21 18:49
刷了3、4遍OG，斗胆说下自己对这题的见解

A：Although appearing less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year  
A选项although后面的省略是对的，即把主语和谓语省略掉（不懂的自行刷prep08），但！！在although这个分句完的时候，出现了该分句的主语HT，因此就不符合although引导让步状语从句省略的规则（主语谓语要省一起省，否则都别省），所以这里出现了大家所说的缺少谓语。。我觉得这样分析才是对的。

C：Although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins, heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year
这里大家应该明显看的出错误，即although已经有了主语，但是在后面又出现了主语HT，正如OG13解释中所提“superfluous”

D：Grown from seeds saved during the previous year, heirloom tomatoes appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
小弟一开始就是选D的，因为当时写的时候在BD之前徘徊，而且回顾到“modifier1, S, modifier2, V..."这种格式能减少异议，所以就选了D。。。之后才发现，，，我犯了严重的错误，即选D的话，2个句子没有连词，这不是开玩笑呢么。。。所以我还是缺少那种关注”未划线部分“的能力。。。

E：Heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the previous year, although they appear less appetizing than most of their round and red supermarket cousins
该错误跟C差不多，就是出现了2个主语。

我觉得这题的分析应该是这样的，个人见解。
作者: DreamerHan    时间: 2014-8-10 05:25
thesuperleo 发表于 2013-10-8 10:59
baby姐我还有个疑问,这里的正确答案b. Although heirloom tomatoes, grown from seeds saved during the  ...

我和22L有一样的疑问，同求baby姐解释！cousins紧挨they不会引起歧义么?
作者: zincgirl    时间: 2014-9-6 15:49
baby丝勾乙！！！！
作者: mmmmmignon    时间: 2015-1-18 13:51
guagua13 发表于 2013-12-10 01:53
heirlooms are more flavorful and thus in increasing demand.

求解这个句子里in increasing是什么用法

C中 although的主语是they  如果不出现HT的话不会无指代么




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