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标题: @help~~~og sc 13 关于D和E中og的解释，小菜没懂~~~还有突然发现一个问题，详见5楼~~~~~ [打印本页]

作者: bob9603 时间: 2012-7-8 12:46
标题: @help~~~og sc 13 关于D和E中og的解释，小菜没懂~~~还有突然发现一个问题，详见5楼~~~~~
A surge in new home sales and a drop in weekly unemployment claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought.
(A) claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought(B) claims suggests that the economy might not be so weak as some analysts have previously thought
(C) claims suggest that the economy might not be as weak as have been previously thought by some analysts
(D) claims, suggesting about the economy that it might not be so weak as previously thought by some analysts
(E) claims, suggesting the economy might not be as weak as previously thought to be by some analysts

D This construction is awkward, wordy, and
imprecise; it also lacks a main verb; there is
no reason to use passive voice, and suggesting
about the economy that it might … introduces
extra words that contribute nothing to the
meaning of this sentence fragment.

E The passive construction makes this
unnecessarily wordy; the lack of a main verb
makes this a sentence fragment.

小菜实在不懂D解释里面说的是什么和E中的什么被动问题，查了帖子了，没有找到这方面的问题~~~~~求nn解答

还有突然发现一个问题，详见5楼~~~~~

还有个问题，关于B，那个previously是过去式的标志？？？所以在两个句子的比较的时候，have应该去掉？？？（ps：暂且先认为是两个句子的比较哈，这样说起来比较容易懂~）

作者: bob9603 时间: 2012-7-8 12:46
芝麻来人~~~

作者: bob9603 时间: 2012-7-8 13:00

作者: frankiyian 时间: 2012-7-8 13:05
首先不考虑concise，DE少verb，suggesting不能像suggest一样作用。所以首先就是错的。
其次就是简洁原则，除去必要情况下（逻辑倾向，平行，ect.）主动比被动简洁，所以，DE中的被动结构是wordy的。
previously thought by some analysts就是指这个。
其实wordy和awkward是一种偏语感的说法，具体的解释可以看manhattan，后面专门有一张讲的是advance的concise
这句子这么看，（A…&A…）主+（suggest）谓+（that…）宾
也就是说没有特别的需要，要求宾语以被动出现，所以被动结构是wordy的。

作者: bob9603 时间: 2012-7-8 15:41

首先不考虑concise，DE少verb，suggesting不能像suggest一样作用。所以首先就是错的。
其次就是简洁原则，除去必要情况下（逻辑倾向，平行，ect.）主动比被动简洁，所以，DE中的被动结构是wordy的。
previously thought by some analysts就是指这个。
其实wordy和awkward是一种偏语感的说法，具体的解释可以看manhattan，后面专门有一张讲的是advance的concise
这句子这么看，（A…&A…）主+（suggest）谓+（that…）宾
也就是说没有特别的需要，要求宾语以被动出现，所以被动结构是wordy的。

-- by 会员 frankiyian (2012/7/8 13:05:51)

谢谢啦，小哥你一点出哪里是被动我就看到了，上午粗心所以没有看到~对了，我想问一下，manhattan里面的advanced是什么意思，小菜比较菜，所以只是知道字面意思，什么前进啊之类的，但却是没大懂manhattan里面的advanced是什么意思，求普及~~~

作者: bob9603 时间: 2012-7-8 16:40
突然发现还有个问题~~~
the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
这是两个句子的比较吧？？？？以前没在意过，现在仔细一想，觉得就是过去和现在两个时间段“认为经济状态的比较~” 求确认~~~~
我的意思是：
some analysts previously thought是一个完整句子吧，some analysts是s，thought是v，as。。as是连词~

作者: jiaoguitar 时间: 2012-7-9 02:02
Bingo

突然发现还有个问题~~~
the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought
这是两个句子的比较吧？？？？以前没在意过，现在仔细一想，觉得就是过去和现在两个时间段“认为经济状态的比较~” 求确认~~~~
我的意思是：
some analysts previously thought是一个完整句子吧，some analysts是s，thought是v，as。。as是连词~

-- by 会员 bob9603 (2012/7/8 16:40:40)

作者: bob9603 时间: 2012-7-9 08:14

Bingo

-- by 会员 bob9603 (2012/7/8 16:40:40)

-- by 会员 jiaoguitar (2012/7/9 2:02:05)

谢啦~

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