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标题: 不知怎么回事,居然对OG102发晕了 [打印本页]

作者: tweib    时间: 2004-10-7 22:15
标题: 不知怎么回事,居然对OG102发晕了

90.   Since 1986, when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.


(A) investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began


(B) investment officers’ fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began


(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun


(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begunD


(E) that investment officers’ fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began


Choices A, B, and E incorrectly use the past tense began rather than the present perfect; furthermore, in each of these options, they has no referent, since officers is a possessive modifier of fees.


102. Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin’s ragtime opera Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion.


(A) Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged


(B) Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it


(C) Besides a concert performance being staged by the composer himself


(D) Excepting a concert performance that the composer himself stagedA


(E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself


问题就是 OG90有先例啊,为什么102就能用the composer来指代 Scott Joplin’s 这个所有格中的 Scott Joplin啊???


作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-10-7 22:52

1、这两题看起来差不多,其实不相关。

2、90题里的...sb's sth, he/they....后的代词不可以指代sb's 中的sb,这一点是肯定的,不要质疑了。

补充1点:与上不同的是,sth. of sb. , he/ they/which...中代词在有些情况下可以指代其中的sb,这要看单复数、动词形式、其他选项等因素。

3、102题中the composer并不是代词是名词,用称谓转述了Scott这个人。如果换成"Except for a concert performance that he himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin’s ragtime opera.... "那么就错了。


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-10-7 23:26

102中himself从结构上是指代composer的,所以没有歧义。


作者: tweib    时间: 2004-10-7 23:36

感谢,各位兄长帮助,理清思路,如果没有the composer的转代,himself也是不能用的


还想讨论下,最后--until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion


这里的sixty-one years after its completion,好象是修饰1972的同位语,但显然sixty-one years 是指这个作曲家,所以是定语从句



即补充完整为 (when the composer is )sixty-one years after its completion


但定语从句的省略,能省这么多么


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作者: rt316    时间: 2004-10-8 04:32
以下是引用tweib在2004-10-7 23:36:00的发言:

这里的sixty-one years after its completion,好象是修饰1972的同位语,但显然sixty-one years 是指这个作曲家,所以是定语从句



即补充完整为 (when the composer is )sixty-one years after its completion


但定语从句的省略,能省这么多么


这里的it指代那个ragtime opera,而sixty-one year当然是同位语,针对1972年来说,即61年前(1911年);句子的意思是作平在61年前(即:1911年completed),而直到1971年才produced。

哈哈,tweib显然是晕了头了,犯了这样一个错误。


作者: calista5133    时间: 2004-10-8 04:35

nod,its completion refers to 1912,  after sixty-one years ,so --until 1972

here produced means 上演, 演出; (电影)制(片), 放映; 出版;


作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-3-3 21:14

借这个贴,我想问问being的错误,因为在OG中,似乎对于being很排斥,但是出现几次,自己也不能分清楚到底错在那,是因为确实没这种用法,还是因为形式错了,主要是原来中学的时候见过being可以作为正确选项的,所以现在很疑惑

OG102中being是been的变体变错了吗

还有OG86也有类似错http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=50172

请大家帮忙,谢谢


作者: colacat    时间: 2005-3-3 21:45

ing形式有2中可能性,一种是动名词,一种是现在分词。

一般来说,动名词是做名词性来用,以名词的形式出现,但是更倾向于保留动作的概念。

现在分词,可以认为是形容词形式,可以做定语状语,等,和过去分词相比,有一直进行,持续的意味。


作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-3-3 22:20

谢谢colacat

只是OG102中对C的解释只是说“……being inappropriately ”那为什么inappropriately 呢


作者: colacat    时间: 2005-3-3 23:01

被动be staged没有主动staged简洁


作者: rt316    时间: 2005-3-3 23:39
在G语法中being一般是用来做现在分词强调动作同时发生的,1911年和1972年的事不可能同时发生,OG86的例子也一样。
作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-3-4 07:34
谢谢rtGG和colacat
作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-3-24 07:23

我今天在看这题,关于being又有些新的想法

若是把being staged理解为被动语态得进行时得话,就表示持续性得动作,但是stage表示“上演,举行”所以不能说1911年这一年永远都在上演举行这个状态,应该表示一个过去完成的状态。不知这样理解对不对?


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-3-24 07:39

performance being staged by...就是一个啰唆结构. 因为performance staged by...完全可以表达一个被动语态.


作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-3-25 07:29
以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-3-24 7:39:00的发言:

performance being staged by...就是一个啰唆结构. 因为performance staged by...完全可以表达一个被动语态.


但是被动语态和被动语态得进行时表达得意思可是不一样得哦

ps:OG上也说得是"Cuse the particicple being inappropriately"而不是wordy


作者: peajack    时间: 2005-4-1 17:54

讨论的真好呀。


作者: violetyang83    时间: 2005-5-8 16:42

102. Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin's ragtime opera Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion.

(A)          Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged

(B)          Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it

(C)          Besides a concert performance being staged by the composer himself

(D)          Excepting a concert performance that the composer himself staged

(E)   With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself

B选项为什么错呢? ETS的解释感觉很牵强啊。而且这样的用法感觉有很多呢?

我觉得it在这里是no referent。 对吗?


作者: carypig    时间: 2005-6-4 16:45
我觉得是多了个"it"
作者: foreinter    时间: 2005-6-29 00:16

Longman里的解释:


stage [transitive]
1
to organize a public event
stage a strike/demonstration/sit-in


etc 1.Activists staged a protest outside the parliament.


2.exhibitions staged in Paris


3.The candidates' public appearances were carefully staged (=not natural) .


特别是例句2,就是用的过去分词修饰的exhibitions,应该和本题差不多,


being +过去分词是不是表示“正在被进行的”意思,请指正




作者: livary    时间: 2005-9-24 12:33
可能有时候按语法来讲being是没有错误的,不过按照ETS的思路来讲being绝大多数都是错误的(在划线部分),只有一种情况,就是介词+being,才有可能正确,这是ETS思路,可是不知道为什么??
作者: wingkim    时间: 2005-10-9 23:41
以下是引用violetyang83在2005-5-8 16:42:00的发言:

102. Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin's ragtime opera Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion.



(A)          Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged



(B)          Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it



(C)          Besides a concert performance being staged by the composer himself



(D)          Excepting a concert performance that the composer himself staged



(E)   With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself




B选项为什么错呢? ETS的解释感觉很牵强啊。而且这样的用法感觉有很多呢?




我觉得it在这里是no referent。 对吗?






我认为就是指代a concert performance ,但是that也是指代a concert performance 而且用的是被动语态,it这里就是多余的。


作者: hyte    时间: 2006-2-22 17:03
以下是引用zhoushao在2005-3-25 7:29:00的发言:


但是被动语态和被动语态得进行时表达得意思可是不一样得哦

ps:OG上也说得是"Cuse the particicple being inappropriately"而不是wordy


因為(c)Besides a concert performance being staged by the composer himself 這裡的besides 是介詞~後面要接名詞~不要接Ving! 就像because of+ N. In account of+ N.  ETS都不喜歡加Ving


作者: KATIEUS    时间: 2006-12-27 14:19

作者: KATIEUS    时间: 2006-12-27 14:24
楼上的JJ太公式化了吧!
作者: 祝英台    时间: 2008-4-10 11:20

102 (E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself

一直没有搞清楚E的错误到底出在哪里?

还有 sity-one years after its completion 中的its究竟指代什么?请NN帮忙~~


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作者: 祝英台    时间: 2008-4-10 22:59
up到NN出现
作者: norinfo    时间: 2008-4-24 21:01
以下是引用祝英台在2008-4-10 11:20:00的发言:

102 (E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself

一直没有搞清楚E的错误到底出在哪里?

还有 sity-one years after its completion 中的its究竟指代什么?请NN帮忙~~


1. its这里指代Treemonisha, 这个应该是没有争议的, 句子中出现代词it/its/them..., 首先考虑主语然后考虑宾语最后考虑其他成分中可能的被指代对象. (个人认为这个规则有一定道理, 这主要是按照一个句子描述的重心来决定)

2. E中的错误有很多.

首先, with the exception of sth这个表达, 姑且不论是否正确, 在ETS看来, 明显不及except for等来得简洁明了, 就如ETS不喜欢使用has an ability to而使用can一样.

其次, the staging和a concert performance均表示舞台演出, 只不过前者倾向于演出的过程, 后者倾向于描述演出这一事件, 用with连接起来没有意义.

最后, done也显得多余, 直接改为a concert performance staged by ...可能更好一些.


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作者: guting109    时间: 2008-10-19 16:31
以下是引用祝英台在2008-4-10 11:20:00的发言:

102 (E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself

一直没有搞清楚E的错误到底出在哪里?

还有 sity-one years after its completion 中的its究竟指代什么?请NN帮忙~~


这个E选项简直混身长满错...




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