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标题: 咋PREP有些问题都木有人提问的，继续求各路NN和热心的baby姐姐！ [打印本页]

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2012-5-26 12:08
标题: 咋PREP有些问题都木有人提问的，继续求各路NN和热心的baby姐姐！
The human nervous system and a telephone system superficially resemble each other, not only because the former carries information in the form of electrical impulses and because all of its neural pathways converge in the brain and spinal cord, which together form a kind of central exchange.

(A) The human nervous system and a telephone system superficially resemble each other, not only because the former carries

(B) The human nervous system and a telephone system bear a superficial resemblance because theyboth carry

(C) The human nervous system bears a superficial resemblance to a telephone system both because the former carries

(D) Superficially, a telephone system resembles the human nervous system both becausethey carry

(E) There is a superficial resemblance between a telephone system and the human nervous system, not only because they both carry

这题正确答案木有争议，但是对07的解释有点疑问
解释说道B选项they没有指代对象，但是The human nervous system and a telephone system 不能作为they 的指代对象么
一个很鲜明的对比，D选项的they就真的没有指代对象了，因为resemble插在了主语和宾语之间，这时的they都木有指代对象了
就是这个疑问，欢迎NN解答下我说的对不对

作者: 单调唱 时间: 2012-5-26 13:56
B说没指代对象，是从逻辑的角度看的。你看看后面的句子，语法指代对象成立么？

......and because all of its neural pathways converge in the brain and spinal cord, which together form a kind of central exchange.

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2012-5-26 14:43

B说没指代对象，是从逻辑的角度看的。你看看后面的句子，语法指代对象成立么？

......and because all of its neural pathways converge in the brain and spinal cord, which together form a kind of central exchange.

-- by 会员单调唱 (2012/5/26 13:56:47)

如果是单从语法层面来讨论呢？

作者: DUKB24 时间: 2012-5-26 17:59
UP！

作者: frankiyian 时间: 2012-5-26 19:21
硬是要忽略语义上的ambiguous，还有后边那个its的话。
我觉得。貌似是The hu。。。。 and a tele。。。。。这俩被连起来的词吧。。。
The特指a随机- -不晓得是不是这个原因。

作者: frankiyian 时间: 2012-5-26 19:22
这样能定义成“被and连接的复数主语”么？？？

作者: 晨依Jacqueline 时间: 2012-5-26 20:41
虽然晨依比较无知，不过还是想来给顶一下，让更多NN看到

作者: Serena0710 时间: 2012-5-26 21:05
不考虑后面的逻辑含义，但从语法层面来看的话我个人觉得they这样指代是没有错误的。
从以前的答疑帖里看到了以下这样的解释，虽然不是特别特别合适，但是还是贴过来给LZ看一看

------------------------------------------------------------我是分割线-------------------------------------------------------------
“还有，如果你非要纠结于这个A+B,代词用单复数的问题，我前天看过一位童鞋的总结挺有道理的，
拿which为例，
A+B，which V.这种pattern，
如果A和B都是单数，which后面动词复数，没有歧义，which修饰A and B。
如果B是单数（不管A是单数还是复数），which后面动词也是单数，没有歧义，which修饰B。
如果B是复数（不管A是单数还是复数）则必须要用which together，没有歧义，这时which修饰A and Bs。

记得哦。。。要加together，不过我觉得加both也是同样的道理吧，”

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------以上来自chengzi1的解释

还是希望baby姐来给个更有力的解释

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-5-27 04:46
同意前面同学的观点，they从语法上看可以指代The human nervous system and a telephone system
但是，连起来看，B的逻辑就不对：

(B) The human nervous system and a telephone system bear a superficial resemblance because they both carry information in the form of electrical impulses and because all of its neural pathways converge in the brain and spinal cord, which together form a kind of central exchange.

A and B bla bla because they bla bla and because its pathways bla bla.

The human nervous system and a telephone system superficially resemble each other, not only because the former carries information in the form of electrical impulses and because all of its neural pathways converge in the brain and spinal cord, which together form a kind of central exchange.

(A) The human nervous system and a telephone system superficially resemble each other, not only because the former carries

(B) The human nervous system and a telephone system bear a superficial resemblance because theyboth carry

(C) The human nervous system bears a superficial resemblance to a telephone system both because the former carries

(D) Superficially, a telephone system resembles the human nervous system both becausethey carry

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/5/26 12:08:51)

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-5-27 05:05
我同意serena jj关于这道题的意见。但是至于引用的chengzi1的那3条总结，抱歉我不认同。

"如果B是单数（不管A是单数还是复数），which后面动词也是单数，没有歧义，which修饰B。" ---chengzi1
好吧，咱一起来看OG12 #110，是个全划线句子

Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger.

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.

(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.

正确句子如下：

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.

同学你是否曾这么想：“GMAT真BT，整个那么长的插入语(, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader,)，故意刁难我们考生让我们需要去掉它才能看清主干....”

同学你是否想过，为啥句子不这么写（把这两个人的先后顺序对调一下）：
(F) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

还有，请注意OG这道题解释部分的第一段的最后一句话，说的是A选项的"Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader"存在逻辑问题。这可不是空穴来风，是精华中的精华！
It is also unclear which of the two journalists is described in the clause beginning who.

来看看这里吧：
http://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/04/13/split-the-pair-in-sentence-correction

剩下的思考空间留给大家。

不考虑后面的逻辑含义，但从语法层面来看的话我个人觉得they这样指代是没有错误的。
从以前的答疑帖里看到了以下这样的解释，虽然不是特别特别合适，但是还是贴过来给LZ看一看

------------------------------------------------------------我是分割线-------------------------------------------------------------
“还有，如果你非要纠结于这个A+B,代词用单复数的问题，我前天看过一位童鞋的总结挺有道理的，
拿which为例，
A+B，which V.这种pattern，
如果A和B都是单数，which后面动词复数，没有歧义，which修饰A and B。
如果B是单数（不管A是单数还是复数），which后面动词也是单数，没有歧义，which修饰B。
如果B是复数（不管A是单数还是复数）则必须要用which together，没有歧义，这时which修饰A and Bs。

记得哦。。。要加together，不过我觉得加both也是同样的道理吧，”

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------以上来自chengzi1的解释

还是希望baby姐来给个更有力的解释

-- by 会员 Serena0710 (2012/5/26 21:05:47)

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-5-27 05:31
其实我是觉得，GMAT SC一点都不bt。从表面上看，它整那么tricky的结构（什么initial modifier, appositives, ...)来增加我们提取句子主干理解句意的难度，而实际上呢，确是对作者的高要求，一切为了读者的利益。

诚然，GMAT是考查的business leaders的素质。我以为，从某种程度说，在RC和CR里考查的是作为读者(buy side)的能力，而在SC里考查的是作为作者(sell side)的能力。
一个是absorption, integration, and decision-making
另一个是expression - how to express your ideas, to persuade others, and to make an impact?

GMAT SC句子的要求correct & effective，体现的就是“一切为了读者的利益”，就好比针对financial advisors的CFA ethics里说的client's interest always goes first. 当你向你的客户提供投资建议的时候：
1. CORRECTNESS: 首先要保证你想要说的东西是正确的. 要遵守法律法规和行业规范(for GMAT: grammar); 要科学严谨，有reasonable basis (for GMAT: logic)
2. EFFECTIVENESS: 要让你的报告能够真实表达你以上做出的研究成果，必要的communication必须有，要求fair, accurate, complete presentation，要求用"plain language"让客户容易接受。

根据以上，我们就很容易理解，为什么刚才那道OG题目，GMAT的正确句子会是那样的，会把"who would later"对应的人先说。
GMAT正确句子就像是一件艺术品，在读者眼里是完美的不可挑剔的！

--
自己造个句子：
WRONG: I have read three fictions and three non-fictions, which are recommended by my professor.

CORRECT version #1: I have read three non-fictions, which are recommended by my professor, and three fictions.

CORRECT version #2.1: I have read three fictions and three non-fictions, which together are recommended by my professor.
CORRECT version #2.2: I have read three fictions and three non-fictions, all the six recommended by my professor.
CORRECT version #2.3: I have read three fictions and three non-fictions, all these books recommended by my professor.
...

作者: Serena0710 时间: 2012-5-27 09:09
"一切为了读者的利益。"
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