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标题: 【每日阅读训练第四期——速度越障1系列】【1-06】文史哲 [打印本页]

作者: Threesu    时间: 2012-5-6 21:49
标题: 【每日阅读训练第四期——速度越障1系列】【1-06】文史哲
速度


Threesu第一次发小分队的帖。。。很紧张的说。。。
如果有错误希望各位大大不吝指正哇~~
本来想贴一个911的同谋被抓的事情的,后来字数不够所以换成这个了
这次字数可能有点多,大家好好搞哇~~
最近忙学校的事情,今晚开始补小分队作业


American History: Hurricane Katrina, Iraq and the Great Recession
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STEVE EMBER: Welcome to THE MAKING OF A NATION – American history in VOA Special English. I'm Steve Ember. This week in our series, we continue the story of the presidency of George W. Bush.

George W. Bush began his second term -- and fifth year in office -- in January two thousand five.


Early in his first term, terrorists had carried out the worst attacks in United States history. President Bush declared a war on terror and led the country into wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

In his second inaugural address, he promised to continue fighting to defeat terrorism and increase democracy around the world.

GEORGE W. BUSH: "So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world."

He also talked about his goals at home and what he called America's ideal of freedom.

GEORGE W. BUSH: "In America's ideal of freedom, citizens find the dignity and security of economic independence instead of laboring on the edge of subsistence. This is the broader definition of liberty that motivated the Homestead Act, the Social Security Act, and the GI Bill of Rights...

"We will widen the ownership of homes and businesses, retirement savings, and health insurance, preparing our people for the challenges of life in a free society. By making every citizen an agent of his or her own destiny, we will give our fellow Americans greater freedom from want and fear and make our society more prosperous and just and equal."

The United States Constitution limits presidents to two terms. Presidential historian Russell Riley at the University of Virginia's Miller Center says presidents traditionally use their first term to focus on their major goals for the country.

Second terms, he says, "tend to be unhappy times."

During his second term, Richard Nixon resigned over the attempt to hide political wrongdoing in the Watergate case. Bill Clinton faced a trial in the Senate over his attempt to hide a relationship with a young aide.
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But the first major problem of George Bush's second term dropped from the sky.

(MUSIC)

SUSAN BENNETT: "You saw people on the rooftops. You saw people using claw hammers trying to break through their attic to get up onto their roof. That's why you had so many people who drowned."

In August of two thousand five, Susan Bennett received a phone call from her daughter, a television reporter in New Orleans, Louisiana.

SUSAN BENNETT: "She called, on a Friday, and said, 'I think you need to come pick up my son, because there's a really big storm coming.'"

(SOUND)

It was Hurricane Katrina -- one of the worst natural disasters in American history. Along the Gulf of Mexico the hardest hit states were Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. Over one thousand eight hundred people died. Property damage totaled more than seventy-five billion dollars.

But Katrina will be remembered mostly because of what happened in New Orleans.

(STORM SOUND AND VOICE)

A day before the storm hit, officials had ordered everyone to leave the city. But thousands of people stayed. Some chose not to leave. Others were too poor, too old or too sick to go.
Then, the levees broke.

(MUSIC AND FLOOD SOUNDS)

Those flood barriers were supposed to protect the city. Much of New Orleans was built on land that lies below sea level.

(SOUND)

As Katrina hit, more than eighty percent of the city flooded. In some areas, the water was six meters deep.

Many people who stayed were caught in the floods.

Officials struggled to get food, water and medicine to the survivors. The displaced included thousands of people who took shelter in the Superdome, a big sports arena.

Out on the streets, lawless acts fed a sense of disorder and helplessness.

WOMAN: "It's disgusting and frustrating. And we are human beings, and they're treating us like we're criminals."

GROUP OF PEOPLE SHOUTING: "We want help! We want help! Help us!"

Susan Bennett helped create an exhibit about Hurricane Katrina at the Newseum, a museum of news in Washington.
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SUSAN BENNETT: "Not only in this country, but also in newspapers across the world, you saw the same headline. It ranged from 'Engulfed' to 'Our Tsunami.' 'Chaos.' And then it went to 'Anarchy,' 'National Disgrace.'"

Congress later found that officials at every level of government -- local, state and federal -- had failed in doing their jobs.

President Bush flew over New Orleans to inspect the damage. A photograph showed him looking out the window of Air Force One at the ground below. Russell Riley at the University of Virginia says the picture expressed what many people were thinking about the handling of the disaster.
RUSSELL RILEY: "Because of the ineffectiveness of the government response at the time, that image communicated to the American people that the president was remote. That he wasn't on the ground. That the best he could do was just look out the window of a passing plane."

(MUSIC)
In two thousand five a different kind of storm was hitting Iraq. American and Iraqi officials were struggling to create a democratic government. Local militias were on the rise and attacking coalition forces and other Iraqis.

The violence also included al-Qaida suicide bombings in Iraq, which angered many Iraqis. And there was international anger as the result of photos that showed American troops abusing Iraqi prisoners.

President Bush had declared the end of major combat operations on May first, two thousand three. That was less than two months after the invasion. But the numbers of civilian and military deaths were growing. And, in the United States, surveys were showing that a growing number of Americans thought going into Iraq was a mistake.

JUDITH YAPHE: "The bad news was we were uncomfortable with it, and we wanted to get out, and we could not understand how things could go so terribly wrong."

Judith Yaphe joined the National Defense University after twenty years as a Middle East expert at the Central Intelligence Agency.

JUDITH YAPHE: "That's where the lack of strategy and the mismanagement come in. But I think it's also true that, you know, Americans just wanted to say, 'Why are we in Iraq? Why are we in any of these places?' Because, historically speaking, it's not a role we've been comfortable with."

She says by President Bush's second term, few Iraqis wanted to cooperate with the Americans to make the country more secure. But President Bush said American troops could not leave until Iraqi forces replaced them.
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In two thousand six, an Iraqi court sentenced the country's former leader to death. Saddam Hussein was hanged for crimes against humanity. But nothing else seemed to change -- violence and insurgent attacks continued.

Iraq seemed to be on the edge of being torn apart by civil war.

Early the next year, President Bush announced that he was sending more troops to Iraq. He thought it would help stop the violence.
GEORGE W. BUSH: "These troops will work alongside Iraqi units and be embedded in their formations. Our troops will have a well-defined mission – to help Iraqis clear and secure neighborhoods, to help them protect the local population, and to help ensure that the Iraqi forces left behind are capable of providing the security that Baghdad needs."

The temporary increase of about thirty thousand troops came to be called "the surge."

In September of two thousand seven, the top commander in Iraq reported to Congress that the violence was decreasing. The surge may have helped create the conditions for this change but there were other reasons as well. Middle East expert Judith Yaphe says many Iraqis decided to work with the Americans to defeat the insurgency.

JUDITH YAPHE: "The real truth is – and it's a good news story – that the Iraqis themselves saw that this was a greater danger to them, that there was nothing to be gained, the Sunnis of Iraq in particular, saw that al-Qaida was hurting them, that it was a danger to them, that there was much more to be gained by aligning with the US forces."

By the time President Bush was finishing his second term, Iraqi and American officials had agreed on a withdrawal date to end the war. The last American forces would leave Iraq by the end of twenty-eleven.

Russell Riley at the University of Virginia says it is too soon to know how history will judge the United States' actions in Iraq.

RUSSELL RILEY: "If Iraq proves to be a policy success, then the surge will be a critical turning point and a terrific exercise of presidential leadership."

He also points out that the war is not the only measure by which the forty-third president will be judged.

Professor Riley put it this way: "The great debate among historians will not be whether Bush was a powerful president or consequential president, but whether he directed those powers in the most fruitful way that he could have."
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So, what else was going on in the United States during this period? Millions of people were voting for which singer should get a recording contract on "American Idol." Year after year it was the most popular show on television.

SIMON COWELL: "Oh, Robert, I think you just killed my favorite song of all time."

ROBERT: "Killed in a good way or a bad way?"

SIMON: "Killing is never good. There's never a happy killing."

ROBERT: "I'm sorry to hear that."

SIMON: "No, that was first degree on that one."

(MUSIC)

But the biggest story in music was not what people were listening to, but how. Sales of CDs in stores fell as more and more people downloaded songs from the Internet. On iTunes, Fergie's "Big Girls Don't Cry" was the most downloaded song of two thousand seven.

(MUSIC)

For the first half of the decade, there seemed to be nothing to cry about in the American housing market.

(MUSIC)

Home prices were going up and up, which made sellers happy. And lenders were offering bigger and bigger loans at easy terms and low interest rates, which made buyers happy.

The government supported the easing of lending rules as a form of social policy, a way to help more people buy homes. Rates of home ownership -- a part of the American Dream -- reached record highs. In two thousand five nearly seven out of ten Americans owned their own home.

But many home buyers had been given mortgage loans that they could not afford to pay back. And that was not the only problem. Banks had been selling those loans as securities to investors around the world. Everyone thought they were getting a good deal -- the banks, the borrowers, the investors.

But then the price bubble burst and the housing market collapsed.

(MUSIC)

Many borrowers lost their homes because they were unable to make their monthly loan payments. That was the situation Karen Lucas and her husband, of Cleveland, Ohio, found themselves in.

KAREN LUCAS: "I've done my crying. I've made my peace, and I put it in God's hands."

As home values fell, many people found themselves "underwater," meaning they owed more on their mortgage than their house was worth.

Suddenly there was a lot to cry about. By the end of two thousand seven, the economy was sliding into the Great Recession. That -- and the election of two thousand eight -- will be our story next week.

(MUSIC)

You can find our series online with transcripts, MP3s, podcasts and pictures at 51voa.com. You can also follow us on Facebook and Twitter at VOA Learning English. I'm Steve Ember, inviting you to join us again next week for THE MAKING OF A NATION -- American history in VOA Special English.
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THE COLLAPSE OF AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE. By William J. Stuntz. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press. 2011. Pp. viii, 413. $35.00.

The cruelly early death of Professor William Stuntz cost us our deepest thinker about criminal law. I use the term “thinker” because the clichéd term “scholar” would miss the point. Law professors speak of each other as scholars in part as a default. Given the vocabulary of the profession, it makes no sense to call ourselves “lawyers” in the way our colleagues can call themselves economists, historians, philosophers, or chemists. But the term “scholar” summons up an image of classical and historical erudition, an image that corresponds poorly to the analytic commentary that many legal academics write; more importantly, it would mischaracterize Stuntz’s contribution. Stuntz was surely erudite in all the venerable ways, and his sensitivity to historical perspective was exquisite, but his writing does not depend on reference to esoteric knowledge, primary materials, or archival sources — nor on any methodological breakthroughs of empirical science. His materials were the legal doctrines, manifest institutional structures, and empirical data available to all of us. His contribution, fully realized in this grand valedictory book, was to teach us to think creatively and critically about how we design the technology of government and to accept responsibility for its means and its products.

In The Collapse of American Criminal Justice, Stuntz demonstrates that American criminal justice is a disaster. It is a horrendous mess of mismatched means and ends, of legal protections thwarted and misguided, of political demagoguery imposing brutal penalties on the undeserving, and of willful inefficiencies in the institutions created to protect both public safety and the public fisc. Moreover, in his most declamatory message, Stuntz joins the large contemporary chorus that has denounced the state of incarceration in America for both its embarrassing magnitude and its ugly disproportionalities. But the title suggests that the system has collapsed from something — that at times our criminal justice system has done things right such that it can point us down a righteous path. We can put things in terms of Stuntz’s bad (current) world and good (to some extent past, and possibly future) world.

Here are some key features of the world that Stuntz laments that we now inhabit: In the state criminal courts, which do most of the work in our system, we see high-volume, bureaucratic justice dominated by plea bargains (p. 7); much of the litigation we do see is about peripheral procedural matters (p. 196); jury trials almost never happen in part because trials almost never happen (p. 39); we skimp on and dither about police budgets, while prison populations swing widely with political winds and turn upward even at a time of lowering or flat crime rates (p. 5); and prosecutorial discretion often takes the cynical, even sadistic, form of strategically choosing from a menu of highly technical criminal laws with rigid mens rea requirements and strict and severe sentencing schemes such that there is little left for a trial judge — or any honest jury — to do (p. 4). At the federal level, we see a hyper-regulatory criminal law that not only is harsh and rigid itself, but also perversely interacts with state law by offering a backup threat for local district attorneys to deploy in securing guilty pleas (p. 66). At both levels, crimes are often pretextual or contrived to help prosecutors finesse the proof problems that they would face in proving conventional wrongful intent (pp. 300–01).

Here are some key features of the world Stuntz would prefer: At the state level, the ruling penal code would be mostly about the core malum in se crimes against person and property and would be written in transparent lay prose (pp. 303–04); prosecutors would be comfortable bringing large numbers of winnable cases to trial and would accept a certain number of acquittals as a reasonable outcome of the system (pp. 302–05); they would face neither voters’ wrath nor loss of professional ego if they lost cases, because the jury system would be simple and efficient enough to make trials common and timely (p. 302); the jurors would be defendants’ true peers and neighbors (p. 304); they would recognize in the jury instructions not just technical elements of crimes but normative principles of wrongfulness (pp. 303–04); they would administer a healthy dose of rational jury nullification, because their ethical sense would enable them to recognize the mercy-deserving frailties of some defendants (p. 304); and defense lawyers would have resources, especially for investigation (pp. 299–300). In this world, juries might even get to decide issues of law as well as fact, thereby minimizing any role for appellate courts to micromanage the criminal law definitions that might constrain juries’ ethical judgments. More broadly, this would be a world where most of the investment in criminal justice would be up front — in density of policing, rather than in imprisonment (pp. 30–31, 138–42). Federal statutory law would cover core crimes for which federal jurisdiction is a provable practical necessity, not a constitutional contrivance (pp. 305–07). And federal constitutional law, abetted by congressional power under the Fourteenth Amendment, would serve primarily as a check on state criminal law to advance the values of equal protection and proportionality (p. 291).

Ultimately, Stuntz’s diagnosis and call for transformation of the system might be said to revolve around three principles. First, criminal justice should be decentralized, and the costs and benefits of the operation of the system should be internalized: the more local the system is, the better (pp. 311–12). Second, the system should always favor substance over procedure. By substance he means fairer definitions of crimes, and measurement of sentences and adjudication that focuses chiefly on determining guilt or innocence and not on fine-tuning investigative and adjudicative rules (p. 196). Finally, federal law, on its own terms and as a model for state law, should eschew hypertechnical regulatory crimes in favor of core criminal offenses and, through constitutional decisions and implementing legislation, provide a check on state law, to prevent unequal application of criminal law and irrationally severe punishment (pp. 305–07).

Like most of Stuntz’s work, Collapse is a profoundly thoughtful achievement of systems analysis. The breadth and scope of its policy proposals tempt us to read it as a blueprint of major design components needed for programmatic reform. But we should resist that temptation. This Review will argue that when we hold these principles to the standard of structural design guidelines, they prove less reliable, less clear, and less grounded in pragmatic political science than such a standard demands. Rather, we should read Collapse as an exhortation to, and model of, a way of thinking about criminal justice. This way of thinking requires astute analytic rigor in identifying the decisive choices in the building of legal institutions and a proper respect for the human frailty — individual, collective, and institutional — that produces the frequently awful unintended consequences of these choices.

Underscoring our legacy of slavery as historical admonition, Stuntz presents the moral predicate that punishment is a very bad thing, and we should view it as a tragic necessity, not a moral imperative or value. Thus, he believes that relentless self-criticism is the only hope for creating a criminal justice system that is stable, humane, and efficient. The noble risk Stuntz undertakes is to draw lines between good moral vision and bad moral reactiveness, between sensible institutional reform and quixotic, possibly destructive social engineering. Stuntz may well intend — and clearly we should infer — that this risk is one taken in the form of the relentlessly self-critical and morally chastened process of worrying about criminal punishment, not in the form of optimistic programmatic reform. The practical result might prove to be marginal, incremental, and experimental improvements in our system, motivated by a kind of national embarrassment about the condition we have fallen into. Indeed, Stuntz might object to drastic overhaul, even if it were possible, precisely because he fears what human fallibility wreaks when it attempts categorical institutional change.
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作者: 呓语    时间: 2012-5-6 21:50
又赶上沙发了。。
1‘53
1’51
2‘16
2’30
2‘44
越障  明天吧。。。今天看英语都看头大了。。
作者: 猫咪团团    时间: 2012-5-6 21:50
啊啊啊!又没坐上沙发!

1:53
1:49
2:10
2:15
2:20

5:49
越障真心没看进去,就知道是S关于law的一些观点...等我有空再看一遍吧...
作者: 呓语    时间: 2012-5-6 22:16
啊啊啊!又没坐上沙发!
-- by 会员 猫咪团团 (2012/5/6 21:50:51)


嘿嘿,刚刚一上来就看到小分队发帖了。。。
作者: kevin405hu    时间: 2012-5-6 22:18
2'07
2'11
2'31
2'11
2'31

9'26
作者: CCcarol    时间: 2012-5-6 22:39
速度:
1‘53
It talks about the goal during George W. Bush's terms and other presdients's during their terms.
1'39
The first major problem of George Bush's second term is the Hurricane. People in New Orleans need to help.
1'48
What Presdient Bush did after Katrina hit disappointed to the  New Orleans  eople.
Most people thought  going into Iraq was a mistake.
2'15
President Bush announced that he was sending more troops to Iraq to help them to stop the violence. Some people doubt that whether it is a fruitful way that he could have.
2'08
It talks about the top music show in the United State and recession real estate industry.

越障:5’29
整片文章理论的概念好多~ 从书中引出对美国刑事法律的看法~
从州和联邦的层面都考虑了对于刑法的看法
最后是对本书的一些评价~还是负面的, 是考虑的不充分. 不一定能够真的帮助到美国的刑事法律~
作者: 泾渭不凡    时间: 2012-5-6 23:05
辛苦~~~比我第一次做的时候好多啦~~~^^
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已经很好的说~~pat pat~~不紧张哈~~
作者: ahasusanna    时间: 2012-5-6 23:35
越障好难,各种稀奇古怪的词读不下去了……
作者: 上邪    时间: 2012-5-7 08:24
1:47
BUSH任期的政治政策以及重大事件 包括911阿富汗伊拉克战争 以及他连任后的democracy政策
1:58
任期的另一个问题 风暴来临 洪水泛滥 民众不高兴
2:24
政府治水不力 伊拉克战争民众不支持
2;15
最终撤军大家的看法  负评价
2:25
说了些别的 最高打榜音乐 还有物价飞涨经济衰退
11:13
读的不太好
大概意思是S是个学者scholar 精通各方知识 他将世界万物分为美丑两界
criminal justis的情况 绝大部分是坏的 但一旦有好的 就会引领我们走向好的方向
举了几个他反驳的丑恶现象
他支持的好的现象
给出了对criminal justice的建议
然后最后应该都是作者给出的评价吧 认为有深远意义
作者: mahaofei001    时间: 2012-5-7 08:49
头页看来是占不到了……
作者: Threesu    时间: 2012-5-7 08:52
感谢饭饭~~~~
作者: CHRISTINE2010    时间: 2012-5-7 10:40
占个座位。。。
作者: Daisy汪    时间: 2012-5-7 10:48
速度
1'18 美国支持democracy,为了彰显美国的ideal freedom
1‘31 讲的是hurricane,损失惨重,800多人伤亡,250billion 的destroy。。。在hurricane来临前一天,美国政府要求人们leave,但是很多人stayed,一些是选择留下来,另一些是too poverty,hurricane来的时候,lawless,现场混乱。human being treat themselves like criminal
1’41 因为政府的 ineffective response,hurricane造成的disaster损失惨重,人们对政府失去信心,认为president is remote,他只能从飞机窗户往外看
American和Iraq的战争,说了一些人的看法,大多是反对这次战争的
1‘20 没太看懂,讲到了什么troops。。。
1’43 讲的是近来American music。。。大家现在都可以上网下载音乐。。。近年来物价上涨,interest下降。。。放假下降,。。。顺带提及人们对此的态度及反映
越障
7‘41 professor的死引发了我们对law的thinker,。。。然后解释用thinker为什么不用scholar。。然后说道criminal justify。。。然后作者说到了law的3个principal。。。
越障还是很多都不记得啊~~~纠结~~
作者: 铁板神猴    时间: 2012-5-7 13:07
最好把速度的一堆空格去掉哈~ 占了读^^
1'34''
1'30''
2'08''
1'56''
2'13''
作者: peraster    时间: 2012-5-7 14:32
计时1    1'46
计时2    1'51
计时3    2'25
计时4    2'12
计时5    1'57
越障    8'26

S不赞成现在的所谓criminal justice。说明S这个人怎么怎么强。(用thinker来形容而不是scholar)
总观点:S认为现在的CJ就是一场灾难。具体说明。(没怎么看懂)
继续阐述:现在的CJ特点(没看懂 x2)
继续阐述:S认为的CJ应该有的特点(没看懂 x3)
总结:S认为改革应该服从三个原则
1.法律重心由中央向地方转移
2.系统应始终为判决服务?
3.联邦法应该用大量搞案例(就是先例么~),让地方法更加好判决
后面一段没懂...最后一段貌似是把CJ问题上升到如何从道德层面解决?

于是法律相关的文章真是相当苦手啊.....
作者: wuye1990    时间: 2012-5-7 15:34
1:30
1:33
1:57
1:30
1:54
作者: zada2010    时间: 2012-5-7 15:46
2‘07
2’08
2‘26
2’24   越障晚上再来。。为什么读文史哲的文章速度反而慢下来了呢。。。不懂
作者: lilylolo    时间: 2012-5-7 18:18
速度
1''41(349) 美国历史从布什政治生涯说起,说到他关于美国自由的演讲,还有美国总统第二任都是不开心的。比如尼克松和克林顿。

1''23(341) 主要讲了飓风Katrina,说风暴来的时候,新奥尔良政府教民众快撤离,但很多人不走。一方面是因为自身病弱,另一方面是因为政府对他们像罪犯的态度。

2''30(411)开始讲了布什去新奥尔良视察情况,但那张他从机舱望出去的照片让民众不满。然后说了伊拉克战争,美国人对此战不表支持。

2''50(405) 说布什在下年末对伊拉克增兵,为减少冲突。到了布什结束第二届任期,美伊同意结束战争,人们对布什的争论会在于他如何行使自己的权利使自己的利益最大化

2''13(464) 从音乐引出房产问题,在股市泡沫出现前,美国房产业一片大好,买家卖家都开心。借贷多了以后,2007年末经济危机出现。

越障:
一本关于犯罪正义的书。。和这本书的作者观点
学者Stuntz历史观点很厉害,但他的写作主要依赖于原材料。他的贡献在于教我们思考更富创意有见地。
S认为美国的犯罪公平是个灾难,然后介绍S认为比较悲观的世界特征,又介绍了比较认可的几个观点。
。。后面没懂^_^
作者: baseboss    时间: 2012-5-7 18:37
1'52
1'22
1
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52"

8'26
介绍S的书
书中的几种观点
作者的评判
作者: spencerX    时间: 2012-5-7 19:22
速度
1. 0:01:07
2. 0:01:04
3. 0:01:28
4. 0:01:25
5. 0:01:29

越障
0:10:38
1.S引发了我们对刑法正义等问题的思考。(作者对S的态度:正向)
作者对S的定义:是一个“thinker”,而不是一个“scholar”,因为scholar不能完全描述S的特质。
S从历史的角度来看待刑法有着深远的意义。虽然S并没有用一些特殊的资料、来源来进行他的研究(这些研究资料都是我们也可以获取的,同时,在方法上,他也没有做出一个breakthrough,然而他却唤起了我们如果看待政府制定的法律的思考。
2.S对现行美国刑法的态度:负向(认为是不能体现法律的公平和正义的)。S分别从州的法律、联邦的法律来论述了他的观点。
3.S对于未来美国刑法应该怎么样提出了他的看法:
1)州层面
2)juries应该获得特别的一些什么保障,可以使得他们通过自己的道德感觉来判断案件的有罪无罪而不受其他外力的影响
3)联邦层面:必须符合宪法精神(根据第十四条修正案来做些什么…),保障美国的民主,实现法律对个人的平等。
4.S提出的制定法律的三项原则:
1)法律应该是decentralized,应该是internalize的,也就是说只有熟悉本土的情况,才能制定出好的法律
2)法律的实质正义应该大于程序正义
3)联邦应该起到表率作用,实现公平正义。尤其是在高科技的犯罪方面应该进行一些规定。
5.S的作品还关注了一个问题:collapse。(具体不记的了)
6.S还认为,一场刑法方面的reform是不能改善现有的状况。能够实现刑法正义的途径应该是人们的自省以及对道德的追求。但是,他又认为,一场drastic overhaul是不行的。

这篇越障的细节好多,基本都跳读了,没记得什么
作者: harryhenry    时间: 2012-5-7 20:56
楼上的好强大
速度
1‘59
2’07
2‘26
2’26
2‘42
越障
9’01
主要是说S的一本书,作者认为S不仅仅是一个学者更是一个thinker然后一堆说S这个人特厉害特好的话
S认为美国刑法不好,具体举了几个例子说明怎么个不好法
S给了一些具有可行性的建议,具体什么建议竟然忘了。。。
S评判刑法好坏的原则
S这本书还是这种做法的意义。。。(为什么月会议越觉得抽象
最后是S的一个什么观点 具体也不记得了 好混乱。。。
作者: qiaozhichen    时间: 2012-5-7 20:58
1.2`27`` The passage explains the reasons for B to make wars with A and I.And the passage mentions the president  N about the watergate and RN.
2.2`11``This atrical tell us a kind of things about BN.
3.2`48``The author describes about B by two pictures. And tell us a man named NY,who oppose A.
4.2`24``The author describes that B holds the attitude about I. B said that by increase the troops to decrease the violences in A.
5.2`00``I can not finish it . Just about a content of a song about the sadness.

Cross the Trouble.9`49``
The professer S made some contribuations and he points out the politices about the jail. And describes the ideal model about the jail. And tell us the consequence.
作者: pigwang1127    时间: 2012-5-7 21:55
速度
1:35
1:36
1:50
1:32
1:40
越障 10:00
1.ws的死讓大家思考犯罪的法律
2.S說美國法律是災難
3.S提出證據證明
4.提到S喜愛的點
5.提到S要考慮的點
6.舉例就像Coll...
7.作者認為S的觀點是不好的
作者: 猫咪团团    时间: 2012-5-7 21:56
惨了...忘了自己已经占过座了...
作者: peill    时间: 2012-5-7 22:25
1)2'35
2)+3)4'46
4)2'32
5)2'35

越障10‘34

Looks like an abstact for Professor S's book.
1. Professor S is not only a scholor, but also a thinker. He propose a kind of criminal justice system, with which we can have a better criminal justice in the future.
2. List the current situation of criminal justice system
3. Compared to the Pamagraph2, list the futher version.
4. Illustrate the three principles Professor S proposes.
5. But we should not just follow the 3 principle, but use the way S thinks.
6. Mention some drawbacks of the book.
作者: bank11    时间: 2012-5-8 16:04
1. 1'57
2. 1'40
3. 2'00
4. 1'50
5. 1'57
越障:
MI: A "thinker" and his view about criminal law
1. Who is the "thinker", and why call him a "thinker"
2. Basic opinions that the "thinker" held
  -decentrilize justice power
  -substence is more important than apperence
  -impoison is not a good choice for criminals
3. inside regulation is more important than outside punishment.
作者: linkey815    时间: 2012-5-8 20:40
2:00
1:45
2:00
2:18
2:03
越障7:02.............看不下去了...对长文生词完全hold不住。。。。。。。TT
作者: befine    时间: 2012-5-8 21:37
2’23
2’25
2’47
2’26
2’53
9’54

1.    审视 criminal law, S 各种好和对;
2.    当前的几个特征;
3.    S prefer的
4.    S 的三个principal
5.    unishment < self morale 评价。
作者: dwindwin1106    时间: 2012-5-10 14:42
2’10”
2’00”
2’26”
2’25”
2’50”

9’35”
好像是说S的死引发了对于Law的一些思考,说了S这个人很强
然后阐述了S的一些观点,认为现在的系统是disaster。
描述了S认为的比较完美的世界的样子

就记得这么多了,好多单词貌似都不认识,读着读着就觉得云里雾里不知道在讲什么了
作者: evamimi    时间: 2012-5-10 16:29
速度:今天比较快,难道是因为字大的原因....

The US history period during Bush's presidency.

Bush took 2 terms. In the first term, most president conduct their main goals and the 2nd term they experienced harsh time.
In Bush's 1 term, US was attacked by terrorists and Bush led US to recover and won the next presidency. During the 2 term, Bush led a war in middle Asia (mentioned Iraq,but I remembered that Bush just led a war in Afhan...), but most US people did not like the war. Also, during the second time, US experienced a recession from housing market.

At the end, VOA mentioned something about music... Seems nothing about US history.

越障:A book written by S

A book written by S demonstrated that US criminal justice was break down.
S was a NB and the book introduced something about US criminal justice system.

被打断n次...最后放弃了....
作者: beiwu58    时间: 2012-5-14 04:18
计时1 2'14
计时2 2'02
计时3 2'35
计时4 1'45
计时5 2‘13

越障 8‘45 说S的一本书,他的死引发我们对law的思考。S说美国的law是个灾难,然后从每州的来探讨。然后说S比较prefer的有那些。然后作者说S的不足。
作者: 洛洛coco    时间: 2012-5-14 11:10
1'52
2'03
2'35
1'57
2'13

越障等下午看吧········

越障  7'01
作者: zhaobingd    时间: 2012-5-14 15:22
3.16
2.42
3.21
3.12
3.44
10.34
这个越障感觉很难懂啊。头大了。
今天都比较慢。
作者: 拒绝假货    时间: 2012-5-14 18:49
速度~
1'32
1'22
1'58
2'03
1'37

越障~
9'19
今天越障好难啊。。。速度的还好
作者: yyjfantasy    时间: 2012-5-19 06:22
2'53  Bush's second term.He tried in some ideal for  America.
2'49 the day of Hurricane Katrina.
2'54 American troops in Iraq.
2'00
2'12 people cried for a lot of things that Bush's goverment had done .

9'35
作者: lyhdnangel    时间: 2012-5-24 18:23
2'03
1'41
2'06
1'47
1'51

8'20
S这个人有很大的贡献,collapse证明criminal justice是一个灾难,然后S给出了一堆解决方法(基本上没读懂),提到了法律、jury、道德观等等,最后提到自私也许是解决criminal justice最好的方法。
作者: zayc    时间: 2012-6-7 23:07
2’21’’
2’00’’
2’29’’
2’26’’
2’25’’

10’37’’
好长...看的都记不住...S的一个理论,关于犯罪的,介绍了这个理论,还说了四个原则,最后还有说道S认为惩罚不是好方法......
作者: karee    时间: 2012-6-9 10:52
速度
2:11
2:11
2:11
2:20
2:35

越障
9:57
作者: ame    时间: 2012-7-23 10:24
越障:11:16
今天越障好难啊········
作者: krddlyj    时间: 2012-7-24 00:17
6/7.22
差3行
差2行
差6行
差4行
差6行
越障 8’16
It is about reformation of US law system.
All of this paper state a professor S’s statement.
Firstly, it said the key features of recent law system.
Secondly, which key features the professor S prefers.
Third is that how to change those disadvantage by S’s opinion. First, the more local law, the better; second we need to build the law by both moral and another thing. It keeps a balance. Third we need a fair law for all country.
作者: wanggang0411    时间: 2012-7-24 15:28
1 2:05
2 1:56
3 2:21
4 2:07
5 2:22
8:57 there are too many legal terms that I dont' know.
I will make it up after I memorize all these words
作者: wanggang0411    时间: 2012-7-25 21:59
补上 这篇很有挑战性, 要多读:
Express who is WZ and What he had contributed in Law area.
WZ demostrates that American criminal justic is a disaster.
The key featurs of the world that Stuntz laments that we now inhabit.
The key fearture of the world that Stuntz prefers.
The three principal of S's diagnosis and call for transformation of the system.
The agreement on S'work.
The benefit of S'work for our instituional system.
作者: jeffery2541    时间: 2012-7-26 09:36
真晕啦,又出现了昨天网页出现的那个情况了,速度部分的内容又白费了。。。

6 不过第二次读文史哲还是挺兴奋的!

速度
1‘46
1’43
2‘19
2’11
2‘14
总体说了小布什第二个任期内的种种,主要三个事件:卡特里娜飓风、伊拉克战争和经济大萧条。总体体现出小布什执政期间政策没效果,每种不配合。整个文章的态度没有明显的偏向,反映客观事实,以及民众对客观事实的反应来说明小布什的功过。

越障
9’16   Stuntz这个人的一种观点:美国的正义制度正在落败。开头陈述了这个人观点的各种特征,各个方面。随后主要指出其对正义制度的观点。讲了他观点里的美国现有正义制度、他理想中的正义制度以及他偏好的正义制度。随后是对他这些关于正义制度的观点的评价。

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再接再厉吧!明天先写到别处再粘过来。。。
作者: kafufuka    时间: 2012-7-27 11:55
1’55
1‘36
2’04
1'36
1'51

9‘20
S’ s dead ---make “thinker” think about criminal law
S’s principal idea : the American justice collapse
2 world S said : a bad one( now) a good one( future)
Introduction what the above 2 worlds like
最后两段没看懂。。。Punishment is tragide and very bad

重看了一边: author's opinion to S 's Collapse : not components to reform but a way to think justice
                                                  to punishment:  is tragic necessity
作者: lolo噜噜    时间: 2012-7-28 22:05
1‘26 布什第二期任职 坚决打击恐怖主义和提高民主
1’31 新奥尔良一场飓风造成的毁灭性灾难
2‘00 美国人民抱怨政府没有采取有效的措施 尤其是布什那张照片 战争给伊拉克造成的灾难 伊和美的态度 美军不撤兵
2’13 布什像伊拉克增兵 称是保卫伊 布什卸任美军从伊拉克撤兵 R对布什评价
2‘15 美国偶像 美国房价一片大好 买卖双方都很高兴 但随之无力还贷使美经济萧条
越障 7’36
S的死亡印方对美国刑事法的看法
作者: Freewill2012    时间: 2012-8-26 08:52
1.1'04"
2.1'02"
3.50"
4.42"
5.1'03"

3'08"
作者: kathyontheway    时间: 2012-9-24 16:38
1、2:05
2、2:26
3、2:44
4、2:46
5、2:40

越障    13:50
天啊越障第一次读这么久。。。好难啊

今天只能用中文了。。。
大至就是在讲一个叫Stunts的大师级人物,他对于现有的 criminal justice system  有着严重的批判和卓越的贡献。他用的资料全部都是我们能得到了法案,记录(这些客观的资料而非一些其他人的研究成果),我们正要学习的就是他的这种creativeness,这是最重要的东西。
他的 Collapse of the criminal justice system是他的理论的重中之重。
他对于现有的世界(bad world)有这样这样这样这样的评价。。。。。
他对于prefer的世界有那样那样那样那样的评价。。。。。
然后说核心关键词就是collapse,他的书的读者都会有想要试一试他的想法的冲动,但是千万别去试,因为一旦着手你就会发现它其实并不实用(unlike science),而我们真正要学习的是creativeness, 和他的思考这个 criminal justice system的方法,和他思考这个问题的真正的新视角和新领域。
作者: 又是九    时间: 2012-9-24 22:45
1'37"
1'15"
2'20"
2'25"
1'08"

越障:9‘29“
作者: puffywhite    时间: 2012-9-27 09:24
01''34
01''36
02''00
02''06
02''03

obstacle: 迟点看~
作者: idealibt    时间: 2012-10-3 15:42
天数    日期    第四期    内容    字数    时间
7    10月3日    1-06    速度1    349    1“48
7    10月3日    1-06    速度2    341    1“38
7    10月3日    1-06    速度3    411    1“55
7    10月3日    1-06    速度4    405    1“41
7    10月3日    1-06    速度5    464    1“55
7    10月3日    1-06    越障    1338    8“08

越障部分内容回忆
It's a introduction of a book written by Stuntz which is about American criminal justice. The author of the book is convinced that the existing American criminal justice is problematic and offers his own opinions in the book.
作者: wensd1111    时间: 2012-10-24 08:19
1 A 02:33
2 A 02:11
3 A 02:28
4 A 02:35
5 A 02:15
6 A 10:09

.list a difference between a scholar and a perfessor, and make us know that the S is one of the most notelbe figuer in american legistation history,and now he died.
2. the normal version of us law
3.the S acted in what different way to  recognize the present us law system
4.sum up the S's major ideas.a. the system might cause mistake if it was put in a wide range, b, the,c,the
5. other points of S on how to make legislation accurately
6
7.
作者: xohe赵    时间: 2012-12-11 09:03
02'21''
02'24''
02'33''
02'37''
02'41''


越障 果断悲剧看不懂
下来再继续看
作者: wensd1111    时间: 2014-5-8 22:05
1 A 01:25
2 A 01:42
3 A 02:08
4 A 01:59
5 A 01:59
6 A 08:11
the achievements of a scholar in criminal.the idea that the professor disputes,like kkkk, the act he prise ,such as, the summury of his works, how to constructed justice society.three points. finnally, the weak point in the works.
作者: xman2009c    时间: 2014-8-17 00:57
2,13
1,56
2,16
2,07
2,13

obstacle:
作者: zzwolf    时间: 2014-8-30 14:59
3,30  布什总统的两个任期 第一个时遇到了恐怖袭击 坚定打击 第二个就是打击阿富汗战争 他自己陈述给世界民主 给国人民主 有人评价第一任在建设国家 第二个是不愉快
3,26飓风到来 接到电话 警察疏散 很多人愿意走 走不动 毁掉城市 当地骚乱 犯罪分子 把说话人当成罪犯
3,10 布什总统对灾难是只是在窗外望了下 导致民众不满 政府的不利 伊拉克战争 很多人不满 为什么在那里
3,15伊拉克增兵 暴力减少 当地人自己要治理 拟定撤退日期 评价还太早 局势能稳定就是效果
3,58cd不好卖 网络下载多 鼓励购买 贷款 买房 还不起 银行继续卖贷款合约 最后泡沫爆破 经济危机 人人都感觉在水中
13,00读不懂 犯罪法律定罪 陪审团 什么的。。。。。一开始努力找逻辑 生词太多找不到 还要多背法律词汇
作者: charleezp    时间: 2016-12-3 10:20
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作者: jessicachyu    时间: 2016-12-3 11:15
1:53
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