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作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-3-12 12:52
标题: 【每日阅读训练第三期——速度越障1系列】【1-15】科技-evolutionary biology
今天的话题比较“跨界”,但相信大家会感兴趣的,GMAT似乎也很喜欢这题材
选自近期的Science,速度是interview(也推荐作为听力练习),越障是"News Focus".
Enjoy!

[计时一]

Exploring The Foundations Of Human Cumulative Culture

Host – Kerry Klein
They may be our cousins, but orangutans and other primates are nowhere near humans in
terms of technological achievement, social organization, or culture. And it’s humans’
capacity for building off of one another—an integral part of our so-called cumulative
culture—that has allowed us to build up so much in so little time. But how did we
develop such advanced methods of learning in the first place? Kevin Laland of the
University of St. Andrews spoke with me about his team’s quest to pinpoint the social
and cognitive processes that underlie humans’ ability to acquire and transmit knowledge.

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
We’re interested in trying to explore the evolutionary routes of the human capacities of
cumulative culture. If you think about it, humans have these cultural traditions that will
accumulate refinements over time thereby allowing technology and other cultural
achievements to build up in complexity and diversity. Think of satellites or particle
accelerators or modern medicine – these are not things that any one individual has
devised, they reflect the inventions of thousands of individuals over long periods of time.
If you contrast animal cultures on the other hand, or animal social learning, they’re
clearly capable of learning from each other. They acquire knowledge about foraging
behaviors, for instance, or anti-predator behavior from each other. And sometimes we
see some simple traditions exhibited, but seemingly they don’t exhibit this cumulative
quality – there’s no sort of improvement or refinement over time, at least not obviously.
So we set out to understand why that should be. And there are a number of hypotheses
out there in the literature. It could be to do with cognitive differences between humans
and other animals; it could reflect social factors. So we carried out an experiment to set
out firstly to establish whether other animals might be capable of cumulative culture if
put to the test, even if they don’t actually exhibit it naturally and then to try and
understand if not, why that should be and to measure a whole bunch of predictor
variables that potentially might explain why they might fail to exhibit this capability.

[362 WORDS]

[计时二]

Interviewer - Kerry Klein
Are there any other species at all that we suspect might also have developed this
cumulative culture, or is it only humans?

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
Well, there are no clearcut examples of cumulative culture in other species. There are
certainly one or two cases where people have made claims of cumulative culture. For
instance, in chimpanzees, we see that some populations of chimpanzees who use stone
tools as hammers to crack open nuts and others will combine those stone hammers with
stone anvils –place the nut on an anvil and then use the hammer to crack it open. So
some people have argued that this is a reflection of cumulative learning. The trouble is
we don’t know the history of this time series. So it’s a kind of plausible story, but it
equally seems just as likely that some individuals could have independently invented the
use of the stone tool and the hammer because it’s not so devastatingly complex that it’s
hard to imagine that any individual could invent it themselves. You can contrast that
with, you know, a computer – it’s just really hard to imagine that any one individual
could have invented a computer and invented all of its component parts and all of the
technology necessary for it. So we humans clearly have the capability to produce cultural
knowledge and technology that goes way beyond what any individual can produce. But
that’s not at all clear for other animals.

Interviewer - Kerry Klein
Right. Okay. So your study here involved, you know, asking the question why and how
have humans developed this cumulative culture where other animals have not, or at least
we don’t think that they have. So what were some of the key questions that you had to
ask, and how did you go about answering them?

[306 WORDS]

[计时三]

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
Well the key issue is to, first of all, identify whether the animals were indeed capable of
cumulative culture in spite the fact they don’t show it in nature; and secondly to ask if
they don’t exhibit this capability, what explains that? What co-variants with the
performance of the individuals that do well explaining their performance in the task. So
what we did was we devised this puzzle box, which could be solved at three different
levels or stages, each one building on the earlier. My graduate student, Lewis Dean, then
presented this puzzle box to groups of capuchin monkeys, groups of chimpanzees, and
groups of nursery school children recording their performance on the task, but also, at the
same time, recording whether there was any evidence for any of these potential predictor
variables. For instance, did we see any signs that individuals were helping each other,
teaching each other, giving each other verbal instruction, giving each other rewards,
scrounging from each other, monopolizing the puzzle box, and so on and so forth? And
so we could then look to see whether any of these potential predictors explained
performance in the task.

Interviewer - Kerry Klein
So for your non-human subjects here, what made you choose chimps and capuchins?

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
Yeah, well that’s a good question. We chose chimpanzees and capuchins for a couple of
reasons really. Firstly, these are two species of animals that exhibit quite sophisticated
social learning and behavioral traditions. So the evidence for simple forms of cultures
that are strong in these two species, as in any. But there’s also the reason that
chimpanzees are our closest living relatives, and so they’re a natural comparator to
humans. And then you might use another species, for instance, the capuchins as a kind of
outgroup to help you interpret any differences observed between chimpanzees and
humans. So that’s the rationale behind our choice of those two species.

[326 WORDS]

[计时四]

Interviewer - Kerry Klein
So in the end, how did all of these groups perform – the humans, the capuchin monkeys,
and the chimps? Were there any major differences or similarities?

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
Yeah, so we didn’t find any evidence for cumulative culture in either the chimpanzees or
the capuchins. We had one female chimpanzee who managed to solve the puzzle box at
the highest stage, the third stage. But it didn’t seem to spread to any of the other
chimpanzees. And we did have conditions in our experiment where there were trained
demonstrators, which were other trained chimpanzees, who exhibited, who demonstrated
the solving of the task, but that didn’t seem to enhance their behavior either. We had the
sort of conditions where the learning was scaffolded so you couldn’t move onto the
second stage unless you’d kind of progressed on the first stage. And none of these
manipulations seemed to help with chimpanzees to get to the highest level. And
similarly, with the capuchins, we’ve seen no evidence at all of any cumulative cultural
learning in them. And that contrasts starkly with what we see in the children where in
spite of having a lot less time to access the puzzle box, we see evidence for cumulative
culture in five of the eight groups of nursery school kids we studied with multiple
children solving the task to the highest level. So there really were quite strong
differences between humans and the other two species.

Interviewer - Kerry Klein
And did the other primate species here surprise you in any way? Were there any
behaviors that they possessed that you were not expecting?

[275 WORDS]

[计时五]

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
Well, it was more the other way around really. There is a literature that suggests that
chimpanzees, in particular, are very good at imitation. There are scientific reports of
them exhibiting prosociality and helping others. But we saw none of that at all. In our
behavior, we saw the children approach the task in a very social way, in a collaborative
way, helping each other, teaching each other, giving each other rewards. And this I think
reflects the fact that they understand that the other individuals are also trying to solve the
task, and they have the same motivations and goals. So they went about this exercise in a
very collaborative, social way; whereas the chimpanzees and the capuchins seemed to go
about it sort of all for themselves, essentially undertaking this exercise as a means to
procure resources solely for themselves. We did wonder whether there might be some
tolerated theft that mother chimpanzees might, for instance, let their offspring take food
that they themselves had retrieved. In fact, we found exactly the opposite – the mother
chimpanzees were stealing food from their babies. So the differences between humans
and the other two species were actually more stark than we had imagined going into this
exercise.

Interviewer - Kerry Klein
So is this capacity for collaboration the key here to our cumulative culture? What’s your
overall interpretation of these results?

Interviewee - Kevin Laland
Yeah, so our findings really fit very nicely with an argument that’s been made by
Michael Tomasello and his colleagues. He’s a professor of psychology and evolutionary
anthropology at the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, and he’s argued for many years that
humans differ from other animals according to a package of sociocognitive capabilities
which includes the ability to teach, to imitate very accurately, to help each other through
verbal instruction and to use language in general, and, of course, this tendency for
prosociality and our collaborative nature. And those arguments really fit very nicely with
our findings. And how well a child does in the task really does seem to co-vary very
strongly with how much teaching they receive, how much verbal instruction they receive,
how much they imitated, how many acts of prosociality they benefited from. So there
seems to be a strong link – at least in the context of our experiment – between those
sociocognitive capabilities that Tomasello and his colleagues have emphasized and this
capability for cumulative culture that we were investigating experimentally. So we
suspect that that really is the key set of attributes that seems necessary for the ratcheting
we see in culture in humans.

[438 WORDS]

Source:
Science Magazine Podcast

Transcript, 2 March 2012
http://podcasts.aaas.org/science_podcast/SciencePodcast_120302.mp3

(0:49-10:46)


越障

ANIMAL COGNITION
‘Killjoys’ Challenge Claims Of Clever Animals

LONDON AND CHICHELEY—It seems that hardly a week goes by without a new report about animals performing marvelous feats we once thought only humans could do: Crows make tools, chimpanzees seem to mourn their dead, and rats supposedly empathize with one another’s pain.

Charles Darwin, were he alive today, might approve this trend. “The difference in mind between man and the higher animals,” he wrote in The Descent of Man, “… is one of degree and not kind.” For many researchers, the new evidence represents a welcome shift from behaviorist paradigms often associated with psychologist B. F. Skinner, which denied nonhuman species anything approaching advanced cognition (Science, 25 January 2008, p. 404). Yet recently, some researchers have been pushing back against attributing humanlike qualities to other animals without considering cognitively simpler explanations.

This more skeptical contingent was present in force at two recent back-to-back meetings sponsored by the Royal Society in London and Chicheley. At both, researchers explored what animals are really doing when they engage in seemingly complex behaviors, rather than reported still more discoveries of their impressive abilities.

“There’s an arms race to identify the most clever animals,” Lars Chittka, an animal psychologist at Queen Mary, University of London, said at the London meeting. “But what are we trying to demonstrate?”

Attempts to measure the gap between human and nonhuman minds have become like a “party game,” said experimental psychologist Cecilia Heyes of the University of Oxford in the United Kingdom. Some researchers blamed the news media, and even some scientists, for exaggerated interpretations of animal behavior. “People in the field often gravitate into two camps,” Daniel Dennett, a philosopher at Tufts University in Medford, Massachusetts, told Science. “There are the romantics,” those who are quick to see humanlike traits in animals, “and the killjoys,” who prefer more behaviorist explanations. “I think the truth is almost always in the middle.”

Crinkly bananas

In a talk at the London meeting titled “Simple Minds”, Heyes argued that many researchers discount associative learning—the expectation that two events, for example, a stimulus and reward, are connected. Heyes argued that this type of learning is ubiquitous among both animals and humans and remains a “contender” when interpreting animal experiments. As a case study, Heyes critiqued a paper on chimp altruism published last year in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Researchers have been hard put to show that chimps have much desire to help each other out; unlike humans, they seem to do so only when pressured or pleaded with rather than spontaneously.

In the study, led by primatologists Victoria Horner and Frans de Waal of Emory University in Atlanta, chimps were given a choice between two different colored tokens. One color prompted the human experimenter to give a banana to both the subject chimp and another chimp in an adjacent enclosure whereas the other color resulted in food for the first chimp only. Chimps showed a significant preference for the token that led to a banana for both themselves and their partners. The team concluded that chimps are more altruistic than usually given credit for.

But Heyes pointed out that the bananas were wrapped in crinkly paper, so chimps could both hear and see when the partner got a reward. She suggested that the chimps may have begun to like the sound of the crinkly paper, “just as Pavlov’s dogs got to like the sound of a bell.” Thus they might have opted for the color choice that yielded a double shot of the noise.

Psychologist Sara Shettleworth of the University of Toronto in Canada says she “totally agrees” with Heyes’s reservations, and even Horner calls the arguments “thought-provoking.” But Horner argues that the chimps got only one reward no matter “how many rustling papers they heard.” Had associative learning been the primary mechanism operating, she says, the chimps would not have preferred one token color over another.

Although researchers still debate what’s behind the behavior of close human relatives such as chimpanzees, there was wide agreement with points made at the Chicheley meeting by cognitive scientist Derek Penn of the University of California, Los Angeles. His talk, titled “Animals Aren’t People,” included a blistering critique of a 9 December 2011 Science paper (p. 1427) that claimed that rats are capable of empathy—or, as Science’s online news coverage headlined the story, “Rats Feel Each Other’s Pain.”

In the study, neurobiologist Peggy Mason of the University of Chicago in Illinois and her colleagues trapped one rat in a small plastic restrainer that could be opened only from the outside; trapped rats gave alarm calls roughly 20% of the time. A second, free rat was placed nearby, and it soon learned to free its compatriot by opening the door. Free rats did not open the door when the trap was empty. The authors concluded that the helping rat reacted empathically to the distress of its fellow.

But Penn argued that the team hadn’t shown that either rat was truly in distress. The team didn’t perform at least one other important control, he said: using trapped rats that were not distressed. Playing videos of the experiments to the meeting, he pointed out that once the door was open, the free rat entered the trap and explored it with the trapped rat, suggesting that being in the trap was not that stressful.

Mason, who was not at the meeting, counters that once the trap was open, it became “an object to be explored, and in fact rats might prefer it to staying out in the open.” As for the lack of an unstressed control rat, Mason says the team now has an experiment under way suggesting that the more anxious the trapped rat, the more helping behavior is evoked. She agrees that rats probably are not aware of one another’s mental states, as humans are, but says the behavior her team observed is the “rodent homolog of empathy.”

Nevertheless, Penn argued that this and many other recent papers suffer from what is called “folk psychology”: interpreting animal and human behavior in “commonsense” rather than strictly scientific terms. Folk psychology, Penn said, gives animals humanlike reasons for what they do, such as “the rats helped free their cagemates because the caged rats were feeling scared.”

Penn’s talk evoked murmurs of agreement in the meeting room. “Our folk psychological labels carry a lot of specifically human baggage,” Dennett says, “which can be gradually jettisoned as we come to understand other ways of accomplishing many of the same basic cognitive tasks.”

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Source: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/335/6072/1036.summary
Science 2 March 2012:
Vol. 335 no. 6072 pp. 1036-1037
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作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-3-12 12:59
真奇怪,速度文章那个附件传不上....发到小分队的QQ群共享里了,mp3文件对应的script
作者: CHRISTINE2010    时间: 2012-3-12 14:24
先速度。。。
1'57
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作者: phoebe0624    时间: 2012-3-12 14:49
喜欢baby的science podcast!

速度
01'35''
01'09''
01'15''
01'05''
01'40''
越障
6'49
Many people believe that animals have the same emotion to human beings,such as chimpanzee feel sorrowful when their parters dead. Some researchers announced that there are only different degree between human and animals.
Researchers want to do some experiment to test the theory.
A scientist said that animals do not have emotion and this is the huge different between human and other species. Researchers had two experiments.
1、Chimpanzee experiments
In front of group of chimpanzees,there are two boxes. NO1 - little bananas, which only for one chimpanzee. NO2 - lots of bananas with crinkly paper.==chimpanzees chosen NO2
So researchers believe that chimapanzees tend to share with others(+)
Other specialist did not accept--chimpanzee may like the sound of crinkly paper(-)
2、rats experiments
Open doors- NO1 traped, NO2 free doors==rats chosen NO2 doors and help other rats
So researchers believe that rats have sympath with other rats(+)
Other specialist did not accept(-)
conclusion:human-like animals is not fully explained, although it shows the "empathy" in certain situations
作者: 铁板神猴    时间: 2012-3-12 15:04
真奇怪,速度文章那个附件传不上....发到小分队的QQ群共享里了,mp3文件对应的script
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/3/12 12:59:54)


有时会出些小错误,反复传每次能增加一点进度…… 或者改个文件名╮(╯▽╰)╭

既然留帖了,自然是要读的~
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-3-12 15:16
神猴,我上传的时候,它没有提示我失败什么的,就是显示"404",照理说应该是个绿色窗口说上传成功。
我当时以为文档格式什么的问题,还把pdf文件重新制作了下(extract pages),结果仍然是404。
我就搞不懂了...难道是somehow和这个论坛系统不兼容?

真奇怪,速度文章那个附件传不上....发到小分队的QQ群共享里了,mp3文件对应的script
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/3/12 12:59:54)



有时会出些小错误,反复传每次能增加一点进度…… 或者改个文件名╮(╯▽╰)╭

既然留帖了,自然是要读的~
-- by 会员 铁板神猴 (2012/3/12 15:04:33)


作者: ainiAnnie    时间: 2012-3-12 15:16
今天才找到阅读小分队。。。。这个必须常来~~
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-3-12 15:48
This more skeptical contingent was present in force at two recent back-to-back meetings sponsored by the Royal Society in London and Chicheley. At both, researchers explored what animals are really doing when they engage in seemingly complex behaviors, rather than reported still more discoveries of their impressive abilities.

我对这个contingent用法不是很懂,查了e-e


adj.1. Liable to occur but not with certainty; possible: "All salaries are reckoned on contingent as well as on actual services" (Ralph Waldo Emerson).
2. Dependent on conditions or occurrences not yet established; conditional: arms sales contingent on the approval of Congress. See Synonyms at dependent.
3. Happening by chance or accident; fortuitous. See Synonyms at accidental.
4. Logic  True only under certain conditions; not necessarily or universally true: a contingent proposition.

n.1. An event or condition that is likely but not inevitable.
2. A share or quota, as of troops, contributed to a general effort.
3. A representative group forming part of an assemblage.


The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

adj1. (when postpositive, often foll by on or upon) dependent on events, conditions, etc., not yet known; conditional
2. (Philosophy / Logic) Logic (of a proposition) true under certain conditions, false under others; not necessary
3. (Linguistics / Grammar) (in systemic grammar) denoting contingency (sense 4)
4. (Philosophy) Metaphysics (of some being) existing only as a matter of fact; not necessarily existing
5. happening by chance or without known cause; accidental
6. that may or may not happen; uncertain

n1. (Military) a part of a military force, parade, etc.
2. a representative group distinguished by common origin, interests, etc., that is part of a larger group or gathering
3. a possible or chance occurrence[from Latin contingere to touch, fall to one's lot, befall; see also contact]

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged  © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003


个人感觉,似乎是这个意思....
a group of scientists who share the same opinion
欢迎讨论
作者: aprilzhanghj    时间: 2012-3-12 16:39
2'33
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conclusion: the research prove the linke between prosocial cognotive and the accumulative culture in human capability.

阅障:the discussion of whether animal's cognitive behavior existence.
作者: towerush    时间: 2012-3-12 17:32
2:05
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9:54
越障回家补上,还是基本看不懂,不过感觉比之前好一点了,不知道是不是心理作用还是真的又说提高
作者: qiuhua01234567    时间: 2012-3-12 19:15
zhan
2:30
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越障:7:06
作者: hannah烂番茄    时间: 2012-3-12 20:48
速度:1:48  1:19  1:29  1:13  2:15
越障:7:14
忘了忘了忘了。。。。貌似也在研究动物与人的区别。
前面一堆blah blah blah,忘了
说:专家总该夸大动物的能力神马神马,但是作者认为答案不会过于极端
然后又一堆忘了
说:动物不同于人
然后做实验说:动物能够感知到同伴的压抑~
rats实验,外面的rat放了关在笼子里面的rat。但是该实验有缺陷,没有证明笼子里面的rat就是distress.
只记得这么点了
作者: chloegrant    时间: 2012-3-12 21:11
2'26
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越障可以看懂后半部分,而且整体读下来比较吃力,脑子内存不够用
7‘19
作者: harryhenry    时间: 2012-3-12 21:39
2’14
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越障:8‘34
先是说高级动物和人有木有区别,一个理论说有后来另一个理论说木有,再后来一个人的理论又回到以前那个。
然后是举了一个用chimp做实验的例子
然后说在哪里的一个什么会上讨论 有个学者说虽然动物有很多跟人类行为相同的行为,但是他们还是不是人类
举了老鼠可以感受同伴的痛苦的例子,说一个老师被关在笼子里 外面的老鼠就会帮助关在笼子里的老鼠打开笼子获得自由,但是如果笼子里面没有老鼠,笼子外面的老鼠就不会打开笼子。然后还举了一个老鼠的例子。
然后P这个人出来说他们团队有个什么理论可以解释然后,然后就没有然后了。。。
作者: abjure    时间: 2012-3-12 21:48
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作者: miss绿光    时间: 2012-3-12 23:01
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今天的内容还蛮有意思哈~
作者: Daisy汪    时间: 2012-3-12 23:34
1'52 没怎么看懂。。讲的是cumulative culture
1‘33 interviewer:cumulative culture是不是只有人类才有?interviewee:不是,大猩猩会拿石头砸东西吃,会使用hammer,这就是cumulative culture的一种表现,但是我们认为stone和hammer的用法比较简单,而人类则是会创造出用stone和hammer的方法
interviewer:所以我们可以认为cumulative culture是只有人才有的,其他的species没有或者我们不认为他们有。。。你怎么回答一些key question?
1’49 interviewee:考虑两点,1、species是否有capability去有cumulative culture?2、如果有的话,那么动物没有表现出来说明了什么呢?一个学生做了实验,有monkey,大猩猩,一群学生,观察有没有special factors,例如彼此间的教学。。。
interviewer:你们怎么决定species?
interviewee:a group of reasons。大猩猩和人类很像,monkey可以削弱这种相似。。
1‘06
interviewee:结果我们在大猩猩和monkey身上没有找到任何证明他们有cumulative culture的证据,貌似是把puzzle box放在高楼上,然后过段时间放回楼下,大猩猩和monkey之间没有任何教其他成员上楼,但是相对于人来说,小孩子就会教其他人,这就是很显而易见的结果了
2’03
事实证明,大猩猩有很好的模仿能力,在我们通过孩子向他们展示了如何完成task之后,他们很快就能模仿,而人在完成这项task的过程中展示出了充分的社交,学习能力,他们可以团结互助,互相合作,学习
我们从这次试验中验证了某某教授困惑多年的问题,人和动物的区别在于有一种社交能力,人类可以正确的使用verbal和语言

越障:6‘22
人和高等动物之间有什么区别?old看法:人比高等动物有思想?(不确定,忘记了)recently,很多科学家反对这一观点,表明人和动物之间有很多相同之处。。有人认为,(貌似是牛津的教授)对于人和动物之间的关系的争辩像一个party,一方。。。。另一方。。。。中间有一些“romantics“
大猩猩实验:有两只大猩猩,给第一只一根香蕉,然后好像是让另外一个给第一个大猩猩选择颜色,result in food,实验结果是第二个大猩猩一般都给第一个选择黄色的banana,这个实验说明了大猩猩是altruism
rats实验:两个rats放在两个房间,然后有个门吧,给一只rats放20%的闹铃,大概是制造噪音,看另一只会不会打开门,结果是闹铃一响,rat就会去解放伙伴,但当房间是empty的时候,(估计是闹铃响的时候)rat不会开门
说明rats对fellow的react是基于empathy的
结果就是人和动物之间有很多commonsense


具体实验怎么推出来的我都没看太懂。。。o(╯□╰)o,回头再看一遍
作者: dengly    时间: 2012-3-12 23:57
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越障 还没看
作者: fox0923    时间: 2012-3-13 01:16
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好喜欢baby的越障~简直就是GMAT的copy版本~谢谢啦~
话说最近读越障的时候特别的慢,好像有时精神不集中,最好来个自我强迫症可能就能恢复状态了~
MI: The passage is to refute the generalization of theory that the animals behave as human-like and illustrate by showing two experiments.
- Scientists argue that the animals can behave and think as human is not true.
a. an experiment that the scientists place chimps and their partners together and choose the bananas from two of them (one is regular color, another one is regular one with wrap in different color).
b. the scientist H. believes that the chimps don't prefer the noise when open the wraps of the banana is the reason that they don't choose. Other scientists agree with H.. However, these chimps are tested for several times of the same experiment, they still don't show the preference of the non-regular banana. Thus, this demonstrates that chimps don't have the similar behavior as human, and the "stimulus-reward" effect doesn't show from the animals' behavior, and the chimps seem to be more altruistic than we commonly think.
c. Then the scientists held another experiment: they placed one rat in the restrainer with the alarm calls, and another free rat out of the restrainer. The study shows that the free rat would learn to open the gate to let another trapped rat out. So the scientist believes the effect of "empathy" works for rats when they are placed in a distress environment.
d. However, other scientists refute this opinion by illustrating that the rats don't show their distress in the restrainer. because the free rat would explore the restrainer once opening the gate. This means the two rats don't assume the restrainer is a distressful place.
- Through all these experiments above, the thought of human-like animals is not fully explained, although it shows the "empathy" in certain situations, there are still other ways need to be achieved to explore the cognitive animals' behavior.
作者: 778879    时间: 2012-3-13 07:26
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越障是关于动物研究的。说现在科研界有两种人,一种只注意观察发现动物身上一些类似于人的一些行为,而另外一些只注意解释这些行为。研究者认为二者中间的middle是对的
用了两个例子。第一是猩猩吃香蕉。第一次选A两个组都给香蕉,而选B只给一组香蕉。猩猩们都选A然后得出结论说猩猩们有合作意识。但有人提出质疑说猩猩选A是因为A的包装纸不一样而猩猩们能听到包装纸的声音,他们喜欢这种声音。
第二是用自由的老鼠会救笼子里被困的老鼠来证明老鼠是有同情心的,但有人说笼子里被困的老鼠并没有多难过,而且自由的老鼠救了被困老鼠后和他一起进笼子,这并不能说明老鼠具有同情心。研究者说他们正在进行被困老鼠难过的实验来再次证实
最后文章说现在很多研究者都首先假设动物和人一样具有某些行为,而这是不科学的。
作者: 半阙    时间: 2012-3-13 10:52
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1、动物常常表现出一些人的行为,比如。。。。如果达尔文还在的话,他会认为XXX。但现在从一个更简单的cognitive方面来研究。measure the gap between human and nonhuman minds引出两派人的解释:romantic and killjoys.D认为:真理是介于中间的。

2、又做了一个实验:大猩猩选择token……得出结论:大猩猩比人类更利他主义
3、尽管现在仍有争议:大猩猩行为与人类相似的机理是什么,但一致同意:Animals are not People(论据:下面的老鼠实验)。。。这么重要的转折句都木有记下来。。。。sigh。。。下次努力!!!
4、X说老鼠会感受到对方的痛苦。做了实验:把一只老鼠关在笼子里,在外面的想办法弄开笼子,而在笼子里没有老鼠时,free mouse不会那样做。但是P说:这并不代表老鼠能感知对方的痛苦,因为在被关着的老鼠没有出痛苦时,free mouse还是会冲进去找它的伙伴。后来M又说,不是老鼠能相互精神感知,而是XXXrodent homolog of empathy)——论据:被关着的老鼠越着急,free mouse就会有more helping behavior.但是P说现在解释更倾向于常识而非科学。

红字部分为很重要但没记下来的。。。。

作者: 半阙    时间: 2012-3-13 10:53
大赞babybearmm的选材~~~
作者: 很邻家    时间: 2012-3-13 13:28
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1. Studies have showed animals can do a lot of things we once thought only human can do.

2. Scientist Ho takes an experiment to demonstrate that the animals also have the ability to associate learning. However, scientist H thinks it’s hasty to get this conclusion without considering other factors such as the sound that money prefers. And scientist S says she totally agrees with H.

3. Some scientists claim that rats are able to show sympathies to their peers. Then they take an experiment, in which some rats are trapped and some are free. Through the rescue behaviors of the rats they get their conclusions.

4. At last, P claims ‘folk psychology’ to explain the similarity between human and nonhuman.
作者: lileeli    时间: 2012-3-13 14:44
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不怎么懂,下一篇接着努力
作者: kaitlynyl    时间: 2012-3-13 21:03
速度:第一段差6-7行,2-4读完,5差了6行,讲了很多动物,主要讲大猩猩,通过研究这些动物,看人类从他们这积累到的文化
越障:跟速度有点类似,讲的是clever动物的研究。开始提出一堆人的理论,然后又说media夸大了聪明动物的行为,怎样证明这个理论呢?通过大猩猩的香蕉和paper实验,说明什么时候大猩猩有什么表现,得出什么结论,大猩猩识别颜色什么的,后来说到老鼠,先根据一个现象得出一个结论,然后又说不是那样的,好像不distress,然后又说笼子里的老鼠比较害怕,还研究了老鼠的同伴。具体什么结论忘了,跟压力有关系。最后提出一个folk心理学的东西,简要介绍了一下。
作者: 一加heidy    时间: 2012-3-16 10:09
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是说动物是否和人一样,也有一些行为什么的,比如。。。
为了了解这些,科学家们做了实验
通过猩猩的实验,给他们香蕉,说了它们是会分享的
通过老鼠的实验,把一些老鼠关到笼子里,没被关着的老鼠会把笼子打开,说明它们会感受对方的紧张和痛苦
一些人觉得老鼠的实验有缺陷
最后说这些实验不是为了让找不足,而是想让大家更好的了解动物的一些行为与人的相似等
越障看了后面就把前面忘了啊。。。。。
作者: livdl    时间: 2012-3-17 22:36
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作者: Threesu    时间: 2012-4-6 08:57
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作者: imddung    时间: 2012-4-8 23:29
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第一次参加阅读小分队,继续加油!
作者: thouzand_    时间: 2013-8-18 14:57
越障: 1st 08'32
Further exploration on whether animals boast human-like quality and debates persist.
1) focus on complex behavior addressed the attention from schlars again. (Party-Game case)
2) Chimps display Altruism
-Cond 1:when pressured
-Cond 2:pp voice occurred
3) rats bear empathical quality
weakened by two points:
- being trap rat is not stressful
- Folk psy theory (promising in further study)
作者: Feelun    时间: 2021-5-14 11:55
3'21'' -- introduction of the topic - the difference between human being and other animals - accumulative ability?
2'15'' -- we dont have clear evidence that other species have the same ability, but some people claim it. give example. then question the claim with a metaphor of computer to define what is accumulative knowledge.
2'42'' -- the key questions are asked and then design a game to answer them. also show us the reason why choose the group of species to attend the experiment.
2'01'' -- the result of the expriment
3'54'' -- put emphasis on the difference between humans and other species and give the general conclusion - the accumulative culture is built on the coorporation.
<it was more the other way around really.事实上是相反的>

12'06'' argue against some conclusion from some experiment in a meeting

contingent -  A contingent is a group of people representing a country or organization at a meeting or other event. 代表团
back to back - Back-to-back wins or victories are victories that are gained one after another without any defeats between them. 一个接着一个的
作者: 小学生Pon    时间: 2021-5-15 04:12
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障碍感觉里面举例和论证的逻辑看的不是很清晰 7:15 第一次看,继续努力。
作者: 窝窝wooo    时间: 2021-11-24 12:43
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12mins
文章主旨:研究人类与动物心理学的讲座展开
开头:阐述各个学者的研究观点
学者观点1:human and animals difference is a degree, not kind
观点2: gap的两个类型,truth一定在两者之间
展开:写了两个具体的实验和学者们的批评
1.c动物有empathy
学者反驳:实验有缺陷,且动物听到这个声音会倾向于听两次而不是一次,所以选择double
2.rat 也有empathy
学者反驳:缺乏控制变量组 没有研究不处于stressful 条件下的老鼠
试验者defend:我们已经证明越stressful, 越会开门,并且这个empathy是root 并不是完全等同人类的同理心

总结:两个学者的观点做总结
1.现在出现了folk physiology: 按人类想法来研究而不是科学的角度研究
2.随着研究深入,人类会更加客观看待问题
作者: anycoa    时间: 2021-11-24 21:46
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感觉初入状态有点慢,但后续加快就越来越好
越障:5:04
第一部分有的科学家赞同,有的反对
用实验,猴子选不同颜色的token,因为喜欢纸的声音听两遍,所以有可能并不是猴子热爱集体,有的猴母还会和孩子抢食之类的
第二个实验:老鼠同情关押的同类,结论两个悖论,1.关押的同类并不感觉stress,所以可能是人的臆测;2.老鼠在笼里没有老鼠的时候就不会,有的时候,甚至会进去好奇探索一番。
结论:人类要谨防用自己的猜测来判断实验结果。

作者: sodaXJM    时间: 2023-9-18 15:51
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文章主旨:动物模仿人类行为的真正原因
两个科学家观点:
            1.human和nonhuman的mind different是of degree not kind
              举例,对于认同动物出现曾经认为仅属于人类的行为,有人支持有人反对,科学家认为对于动物做了复杂行为,应当做思维性解释,而非描述动物能力。两个会议也在讨论当动物做复杂事情时,对于动物自己而言他们在做什么。
            2.真相是一个折中。人类分成两个阵营,一个认为动物有人特质,一个认为动物就是模仿人类。真相在两个阵营之间。
两个实验例子:
            1.猩猩:有思考能力去选择tokens,
               但是有人质疑,认为猩猩的动机不是知道token背后意义而是因为别的因素。
            2.老鼠:具有同情心,看到同伴痛苦因此不做一些事,
               但是其他人质疑,因为实验没控制变量。
结论:人们习惯去研究动物的似人行为,从人类自身角度,而非从一个科学角度。但是某些人的talk激起大家更深入地讨论




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