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作者: paopao    时间: 2004-8-31 13:50
标题: OG60

60.   According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.


(A) like that of earlier generations


(B) as that for earlier generations


(C) just as earlier generations did


(D) as have earlier generationsE


(E) as it was of earlier generations


The intended comparison should be completed by a clause beginning with as and containing a subject and verb that correspond to the subject and verb of the main clause. (读完全句,这是句子与句子之间的比较和平行). In E, the best choice, it refers unambiguously to the phrasal subject owning... land, the verb was corresponds to is, and today’s young adults are appropriately compared to earlier generations. Choices A and B lack a verb corresponding to is and a clear referent for that. that指代有歧义).Choices C and D are confusing and illogical because their verbs, did and have, cannot substitute for is in the main clause.



it /its 指代对象不同啊 这怎么回事啊


谢谢


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-8-31 13:55

it 和its不要求指代同一个对象;

就是it也出现过在一个句子中指代对象不同的情况,那个帖子一时翻不到了,上面有gemj的解释,记得没错的话,其中有一个it是形式主语,另外的it是有明确指代对象的。


作者: paopao    时间: 2004-9-2 00:23

天啊


GMAT不是要求同一代词不可指代不同的事物吗


这是怎么回事啊



作者: LES    时间: 2004-9-2 00:42

别叫天了,ETS就是这样的。

还有一道题供你参考,OG129。

不过偶还没有看到同一句话中it可以指代不同的东东?

目前为止得出的结论是不同格的代词在一句话中可以指代不同的主语。


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-9-2 14:30

GEMJ总结


关于代词的指代问题,我想下面几点是明确的:
1) 并无就近指代的规则,如果看到代词就将其等同于前面最靠近它的、在数上与其一致的名词,肯定是错误的。不仅如此,我们也不应该以就近指代的思路想问题;
2) 从句中的做主语的代词优先指代主句主语。这是ETS认可的规则。但注意是“优先”,不是“永远”,否则下面的句子就无法解释了;
12. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.
(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
3) 逻辑判定是无比重要的。如果“优先指代”使得句子不通,则需要通过逻辑来判定其指代的对象。当然,这也适合于没有“优先指代”规则可用的情况;
4) 我们不应该试图寻找(实际上也不存在)一条简单的、适用任何情况的通则来判定代词的指代对象。正因为如此,代词的指代问题才具有挑战性,代词指代才能成为ETS喜欢的考点。如果一条简单规则就可以搞定所有题目,那还有考的必要与价值吗?

(好比说前人曾提出的“就近指代”的规则就是一种寻求通则的尝试,但这肯定是错误的。在ETS的字典里,绝对没有这条规则)


作者: LES    时间: 2004-9-2 15:22
谢谢leeon!
作者: agk99    时间: 2004-9-2 23:58

我們知道,在ETS中的it 通常是指代單一且清楚的單數名詞(it is to V的虛主詞結構例外)

但這一題可說是特例,後半段的it,是指代owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land

套用gemj的看法,解題原則是死的,邏輯判斷才是解題關鍵


作者: TakeItEasy1    时间: 2005-5-5 23:30

关于it和its指代不一的问题

目前为止得出的结论是不同格的代词在一句话中可以指代不同的主语。

这点应该说不通,反例OG4

我有一个猜想,是不是因为前一个its指代的是具体的house

而后一个it是作为形式主语指代owning...and living....on its own land,

所以不存在ambiguous的问题,


作者: goodwish    时间: 2005-9-2 00:41

OG4反例何在?



作者: mmfoolish    时间: 2005-11-8 10:48
我想问A中that是否可以指代:owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal 。是否这样的话就不用补出谓语?谢谢!!!!
作者: mmfoolish    时间: 2005-11-8 23:56
顶~~~
作者: 扬凡    时间: 2006-3-22 10:28
以下是引用leeon在2004-9-2 14:30:00的发言:

GEMJ总结


关于代词的指代问题,我想下面几点是明确的:
1) 并无就近指代的规则,如果看到代词就将其等同于前面最靠近它的、在数上与其一致的名词,肯定是错误的。不仅如此,我们也不应该以就近指代的思路想问题;
2) 从句中的做主语的代词优先指代主句主语。这是ETS认可的规则。但注意是“优先”,不是“永远”,否则下面的句子就无法解释了;
12. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.
(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month
(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month
(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival
(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival
3) 逻辑判定是无比重要的。如果“优先指代”使得句子不通,则需要通过逻辑来判定其指代的对象。当然,这也适合于没有“优先指代”规则可用的情况;
4) 我们不应该试图寻找(实际上也不存在)一条简单的、适用任何情况的通则来判定代词的指代对象。正因为如此,代词的指代问题才具有挑战性,代词指代才能成为ETS喜欢的考点。如果一条简单规则就可以搞定所有题目,那还有考的必要与价值吗?

(好比说前人曾提出的“就近指代”的规则就是一种寻求通则的尝试,但这肯定是错误的。在ETS的字典里,绝对没有这条规则)


OG中确实提到过关于"就近指代"的要求. 请看OG241的explanation,...Besides heat and light cannot logically modify the sun, the nearest noun, as grammar requires it to do. 就是说,根据语法要求, 应该修饰最近的名词. 这应该是个一般性原则,但不是绝对的.


作者: snowfield    时间: 2006-7-2 10:13

按照这个说法,如果按照就近原则gmat中很多所谓的ambiguous就不ambiguous了。不过这里说的og241是介词短语放在句首的情况,能否推广到其他地方呢?个人仍觉得对就近原则应慎重,否则会错过很多gmat认为ambiguous的东西。


作者: chenshw    时间: 2006-9-5 20:31
以下是引用扬凡在2006-3-22 10:28:00的发言:

OG中确实提到过关于"就近指代"的要求. 请看OG241的explanation,...Besides heat and light cannot logically modify the sun, the nearest noun, as grammar requires it to do. 就是说,根据语法要求, 应该修饰最近的名词. 这应该是个一般性原则,但不是绝对的.

不明白,OG241里面哪有什么代词问题?


作者: cw_chan    时间: 2008-4-25 15:08

The two pronouns refer to two different things, because these two pronouns are present in main clause and as-clause.

Referring spyder1011 commets in 52th of following linkage. 

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=24926

Thanks


作者: yunerfeifei    时间: 2008-4-25 22:55

12. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month. (A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month (B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month (C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month (D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival (E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

敢问这道题的答案是B 还是D啊?我在不同书上看到不同答案?把我都弄晕了

谢谢了啊






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