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标题: gwd-6-18 [打印本页]
作者: ztlbox 时间: 2004-8-27 03:22
标题: gwd-6-18
Q18:
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
这道题我使用排除法,其他项it得知戴都有问题,只有c看之还顺眼,哪位牛牛可以从理论上讲讲为什么c 对
作者: rt316 时间: 2004-8-27 23:19
以下是引用ztlbox在2004-8-27 3:22:00的发言:Q18:
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- In California today (today的位置不是很好,时间状语修饰整句,最好放在句首), Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago (Hispanics和a decade ago作比较,比较对象不匹配), when it (it的指代不明确) was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic (主从成分混乱), compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics (表达不精确) under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California (表达不精确) account for more than 43 percent, unlike (比较结构错) a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
作者: AdamCheng 时间: 2004-9-5 00:24
以下是引用stoneren在2004-8-27 23:19:00的发言:
But do u think that the choice (C) compares the Hispanic with the figures?? doesn't it cause the ambiguity?
作者: agk99 时间: 2004-9-6 04:59
我也是用排除法,指代一致的觀念,找出C的
有更好的解法嗎
作者: gmat700+ 时间: 2004-9-6 09:01
a、b、e为什么错,stoneren说得很清楚。
d错,我觉得是因为:1、比较对象概念不对等,californians和a decade ago比较;而且这里用compare to是unidiomatic的,应该用compare with;句子后半部分的it没有指代对象。
作者: rings 时间: 2004-10-8 19:08
顶一下
But do u think that the choice (C) compares the Hispanic with the figures?? doesn't it cause the ambiguity?
还是对C有疑问,主谓宾分别是什么呀?Hispanic和figure做比较可以嘛?ft
作者: roberta 时间: 2004-10-10 17:32
以下是引用rings在2004-10-8 19:08:00的发言:顶一下
But do u think that the choice (C) compares the Hispanic with the figures?? doesn't it cause the ambiguity?
还是对C有疑问,主谓宾分别是什么呀?Hispanic和figure做比较可以嘛?ft
是容易有这种误解, 不过compare with可以这么用,参加longman里面一个例句就会更清楚了:)
a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year
作者: Penggary 时间: 2004-10-10 20:39
C可以这么认为:more than 43%..., compared with about 35%...,主谓结构在前面more than部分,这样看起来比较很对等:more than vs about, 43% vs 35%。大家的意见呢?
作者: bryan0806 时间: 2004-10-10 21:25
以下是引用Penggary在2004-10-10 20:39:00的发言:
C可以这么认为:more than 43%..., compared with about 35%...,主谓结构在前面more than部分,这样看起来比较很对等:more than vs about, 43% vs 35%。大家的意见呢?
挺同意你的看法
这题我只有C读的懂 其他的选项我念起来都不太知道什么意思感觉很不顺 还有我是觉得ABDE的it 都指代不怎么清楚 顺便问一下 it 可以指代 xx% of 复数名词吗?
作者: hankunlun 时间: 2004-11-18 09:20
我觉得这道题的问题主要在it 的使用上,只有C选项没有错误。
作者: paraglider 时间: 2004-12-6 21:58
作者: paraglider 时间: 2004-12-6 21:59
作者: skyguard2000 时间: 2005-2-18 05:12
我来补充一点错误,B选项中的them不能用来指代介宾结构中的名词,即 Of the Californians中的Californians。
作者: skyguard2000 时间: 2005-2-18 05:15
A、D、E中,account for more than 43 percent, 43 percent of what ?
作者: Avantasia 时间: 2005-5-9 12:57
以下是引用skyguard2000在2005-2-18 5:12:00的发言:
我来补充一点错误,B选项中的them不能用来指代介宾结构中的名词,即 Of the Californians中的Californians。
这个观点很新颖, 不知道有什么出处吗?
作者: ethyl 时间: 2005-5-22 20:36
我来补充一点错误,B选项中的them不能用来指代介宾结构中的名词,即 Of the Californians中的Californians。
我也觉得很新颖哦
it不能指代复数名词吧,在这道题里面只能指代前面出现过的单数名词,比如那些个figure
作者: jerry1121 时间: 2005-7-5 01:56
我有一个问题,C好象和原句的意思有出入.
请NN指点
作者: Lucky0506 时间: 2005-8-3 17:13
以下是引用rt316在2004-8-27 23:19:00的发言:
以下是引用ztlbox在2004-8-27 3:22:00的发言: Q18:
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- In California today (today的位置不是很好,时间状语修饰整句,最好放在句首), Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago (Hispanics和a decade ago作比较,比较对象不匹配), when it (it的指代不明确) was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic (主从成分混乱), compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics (表达不精确) under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California (表达不精确) account for more than 43 percent, unlike (比较结构错) a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
请教:
1。C.这里是否主语在比较啊?句子挺顺的,就是后面的compared with about a dacade ago.觉得是不是应该加上“that”。
Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with that about 35 percent a decade ago.
2。B,主从成分混乱? 第一次听见这个概念。可以解释一下具体什么意思?我觉得不混啊。只是好像of them和前面的of the californian重复了.
谢谢谢谢!!
作者: sensornet 时间: 2005-8-16 04:59
17好像跟我的观点一致。C和原句意思不一样!大家看看under the age of 18的修饰对象,一个是Hispanics,一个是Californians。这两个句子的意思完全不同!我看,这道题没一个是对的。说哪个是对的都可能。在没有ETS标准答案的时候,谁也不要说哪个语法点的优先权更高。我更觉得这道题和17题一样是道测试用烂题。
作者: ESeraph 时间: 2005-9-2 21:20
以下是引用sensornet在2005-8-16 4:59:00的发言:
17好像跟我的观点一致。C和原句意思不一样!大家看看under the age of 18的修饰对象,一个是Hispanics,一个是Californians。这两个句子的意思完全不同!我看,这道题没一个是对的。说哪个是对的都可能。在没有ETS标准答案的时候,谁也不要说哪个语法点的优先权更高。我更觉得这道题和17题一样是道测试用烂题。
i think the meaning in C is closer to reality. If "Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent" in A is correct, California is too young.
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作者: sammaijgd 时间: 2005-9-4 15:29
我觉得这题出的不好 ,C选项有修改原文的嫌疑
作者: stray2000 时间: 2005-9-26 01:40
本来也是对C有疑惑,但是仔细想了一下,
under the age of eighteen 修饰成分的位置不影响本句的逻辑意思。
原句说18岁以下的Hispanics占了加州43%人口, C说加州18岁以下的人口中有43%是Hispanics(这里已经隐含了这些Hispanics群体是18岁以下的意思)。
仔细体会一下,对不?
作者: happythree 时间: 2005-10-14 21:31
我认为还是有改变原意之嫌,原文的意思是,18岁以下的Hispanics占加州的43%,当然这个很不make sense. 但原文确实是这个意思.
欢迎讨论...
作者: joanrain 时间: 2005-10-26 09:19
up23lou de xiongdi
wo jiushi zheyang ba C gei paichu diao le!55555
作者: howhowhow 时间: 2005-11-26 18:56
本題我認為是E
原句:18歲以下的Hispanics占加州人口的43%
C: 18歲以下的加州人有43%是Hispanics (犯了SC最嚴重的錯誤─改變句意!!)
E Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
today跟a decade ago比
E裡面it 很清楚代Hispanics under the age of eighteen這個片語阿
雖然一般ETS不喜歡這樣代,但還是有例外,例OG60
請指教
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-11-26 19:20:08编辑过]
作者: lili09030118 时间: 2005-12-20 09:47
C的确有改变愿意之衔,但E中的IT能指的又是什么呢 ?hispanics 由前文可知是复数啊 所以 虽然C有歧义 但E指代有问题
作者: kathy8446 时间: 2006-8-18 23:55
以下是引用howhowhow在2005-11-26 18:56:00的发言:本題我認為是E
原句:18歲以下的Hispanics占加州人口的43%
C: 18歲以下的加州人有43%是Hispanics (犯了SC最嚴重的錯誤─改變句意!!)
E Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
大家都认为C改变原意,但我觉得恰恰因为原句A中没有指出account for 43% (of what),所以根本不能断言原意是什么。说不定它想表达的就是占18岁以下人的43%呢?
问一下E的unlike为什么错,不是有unlike做比较的吗??
作者: 清清小蚂蚁 时间: 2006-9-9 10:23
以下是引用kathy8446在2006-8-18 23:55:00的发言:大家都认为C改变原意,但我觉得恰恰因为原句A中没有指出account for 43% (of what),所以根本不能断言原意是什么。说不定它想表达的就是占18岁以下人的43%呢?
问一下E的unlike为什么错,不是有unlike做比较的吗??
A 说,加拿大人中,18岁以下的西班牙人占了43%
C说,18岁以下的加拿大人中,43%是加拿大人,
为什么改变句意,难道是因为句意严重错误???
不明白啊???????????
作者: sendme 时间: 2006-9-9 13:31
A 意识是:
Hispanics under the age of eighteen 战全部加州的人口的43%。
你说合理吗??? 那末在加上他们的家长,则全加州都是 Hispanics 了。
所以, C: 18歲以下的加州人有43%是Hispanics correct.
作者: 娜na 时间: 2006-9-9 15:33
我做的是涛涛的GWD这题是TT-GWD-5-18如果有人总结的话也可以总结到TT语法的那个总结帖子里去!在这里我说一个我的做法!
大家要是做过刘振民那本语法书的直接去看他的那个比较部分的总结,其实这题除了C以外的选项都犯了他那本书里总结的比较中最容易犯的错误就是比较的对象不同,而前后两个的比较对象经常会被换为时间状语一类的,下面就是ABDE的比较对象,这样一看就没有任何可比性了!不知道我说的明白不?我的思路是这样的
Q18:
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
Answer: C
作者: 清清小蚂蚁 时间: 2006-9-9 18:02
以下是引用sendme在2006-9-9 13:31:00的发言:A 意识是:
Hispanics under the age of eighteen 战全部加州的人口的43%。
你说合理吗??? 那末在加上他们的家长,则全加州都是 Hispanics 了。
所以, C: 18歲以下的加州人有43%是Hispanics correct.
哈哈,豁然开朗,这个家长们确实妙,再加上老爸老妈,如果不是混血的话,还得往西班牙借点人呢。
作者: 清清小蚂蚁 时间: 2006-9-10 10:58
以下是引用sendme在2006-9-9 13:31:00的发言:A 意识是:
Hispanics under the age of eighteen 战全部加州的人口的43%。
你说合理吗??? 那末在加上他们的家长,则全加州都是 Hispanics 了。
所以, C: 18歲以下的加州人有43%是Hispanics correct.
A 说,加拿大人中,18岁以下的西班牙人占了43%
C说,18岁以下的加拿大人中,43%是西班牙人,
为什么改变句意,难道是因为句意严重错误???
sendme:今天看你的解释又不明白了,按你的解释,A和C差不多吧,C18岁以下的加拿大人中,43%是西班牙人,那18岁以上的
人里他们的家长也应该不少人比如43%是西班牙人,这加拿大的西班牙人还真是多啊????
怎么回事呢?????????
我的逻辑不好,不要笑我。
作者: madben 时间: 2006-9-10 14:13
原句A中只是说在加州,18岁以下的西班牙人有43%,隐含的意思是在所有18岁以下的人口中,西班牙人有43%,而不是说占所有加州人的43%。
西班牙人家长可未必有43%,因为:
1. 很多18岁以上的非西班牙人没有孩子
2. 很多西班牙少年离开他们的父母来到了加州。
不过,究竟什么原因并不重要了,毕竟不是逻辑题。
作者: 清清小蚂蚁 时间: 2006-9-10 16:46
以下是引用madben在2006-9-10 14:13:00的发言:原句A中只是说在加州,18岁以下的西班牙人有43%,隐含的意思是在所有18岁以下的人口中,西班牙人有43%,而不是说占所有加州人的43%。
西班牙人家长可未必有43%,因为:
1. 很多18岁以上的非西班牙人没有孩子
2. 很多西班牙少年离开他们的父母来到了加州。
不过,究竟什么原因并不重要了,毕竟不是逻辑题。
脉络清晰,搞定。嘻嘻,
谢谢。
作者: amethyst10G 时间: 2006-10-10 12:14
以下是引用娜na在2006-9-9 15:33:00的发言:我做的是涛涛的GWD这题是TT-GWD-5-18如果有人总结的话也可以总结到TT语法的那个总结帖子里去!在这里我说一个我的做法!
大家要是做过刘振民那本语法书的直接去看他的那个比较部分的总结,其实这题除了C以外的选项都犯了他那本书里总结的比较中最容易犯的错误就是比较的对象不同,而前后两个的比较对象经常会被换为时间状语一类的,下面就是ABDE的比较对象,这样一看就没有任何可比性了!不知道我说的明白不?我的思路是这样的
Q18:
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
Answer: C
作者: peterchang 时间: 2006-10-12 11:06
c. Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
请问一下,这里的compared会不会有修饰hispanic的岐义呢??我记得",过去分词"不是都是就近修饰前面一个名词??
作者: redragon124 时间: 2006-11-24 11:23
一步必杀:比较对象的平行性
A, Hispanics 和a
decade
ago比较
B more than 43
percent 和a decade
ago比
C more than 43 percent和35 percent比,正确
D a decade
ago和Californians比
E Hispanics 和 a decade
ago比
作者: yale_qiu 时间: 2007-1-11 11:21
语法上C的正确性是没有疑义的,含义上C也是清晰的
C:C的18岁以下人口中,有43%是H
再回过头去看A,43% of what?造成了含义上的模糊
既然A 原本的含义就不明确,也就谈不上更改句意了。
事实上,5个选项中只有B和C补出了percent的内容,所以至少含义是明确的,但是B存在语法上的混乱,导致其不可能是正确选项,只能选C了。
作者: znlhy 时间: 2007-4-10 14:12
我的快速解题方法,仅供参考
这道题是两个比例的比较,利用排除法很快能将其他选项排除
- In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
ABE将两个比例放进了状语从句中,改变了句意和比较对象。
D的Compared短语修饰的是Californias,也是比较对象的错误。
作者: 罗马青年 时间: 2007-5-28 16:24
c. Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
请问一下,这里的compared会不会有修饰hispanic的岐义呢??我记得",过去分词"不是都是就近修饰前面一个名词??
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因为“compared” 前面有逗号“,”隔开, 因此其修饰的是主句的主语,起补充说明的作用。
作者: manfromars 时间: 2007-12-4 10:16
我觉得C改变了句意。
A是:18岁以下的西班牙人占西班牙人43%
C是:43%的加州人是18岁以下的西班牙人
作者: manfromars 时间: 2007-12-4 10:39
it指代的问题和句意改变的问题相比较。句意改变错的更多。有it就错,这不是一定的
E. Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
it是可以指代整句“Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California”内容的
“2002年第65题:
Until these issues are resolved, a technology of behavior will continue to be rejected, and with it possibly the only way to solve our problems.
此句的主句应是a technology of behavior will continue to be rejected, 而在and引导的并列句子中主语the only way的谓语will continue to be rejected被省略了。所以,有些考生感到此句的翻译无从下手。with 做状语表示伴随状况。it 指代a technology of behavior will continue to be rejected这一句子内容。”
另外,我是否可以理解成为today和a decade ago在作比较?
作者: allenhzkk 时间: 2008-1-31 10:07
我也选E,我觉得today可以和a decade ago比较。但it不理解?
不管c有没有改变句子意思,这个under the age of eighteen改变了修饰对象,原来修饰hispanics变成了修饰Californians,这就应该错了。
hispanics和californians是两个完全不同的名词。
再说哪,原句说的是in californian,西班牙人怎么怎么。
而C说的是加里福利尼人里的情况,问题就是,西班牙人住在加里福利亚既可以是也可以不是加里福尼亚人啊,
而加里福尼亚人也可以不住在加里福尼亚阿。改变修饰差别可就大了。
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent,跟Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, 是不等的。
作者: bananaleaf 时间: 2008-5-29 13:53
以下是引用娜na在2006-9-9 15:33:00的发言:我做的是涛涛的GWD这题是TT-GWD-5-18如果有人总结的话也可以总结到TT语法的那个总结帖子里去!在这里我说一个我的做法!
大家要是做过刘振民那本语法书的直接去看他的那个比较部分的总结,其实这题除了C以外的选项都犯了他那本书里总结的比较中最容易犯的错误就是比较的对象不同,而前后两个的比较对象经常会被换为时间状语一类的,下面就是ABDE的比较对象,这样一看就没有任何可比性了!不知道我说的明白不?我的思路是这样的
Q18:
In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- In California today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Of the Californians under the age of eighteen, today more than 43 percent of them are Hispanic, compared with a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
- Today, more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic, compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
- Today, compared to a decade ago, Californians who are Hispanics under the age of eighteen account for more than 43 percent, whereas it was about 35 percent.
- Today, Hispanics under the age of eighteen in California account for more than 43 percent, unlike a decade ago, when it was about 35 percent.
Answer: C
觉得这个解释特别好!
作者: chinamerica 时间: 2008-6-8 07:05
up
作者: lrai524 时间: 2008-6-8 11:10
以下是引用agk99在2004-9-6 4:59:00的发言:我也是用排除法,指代一致的觀念,找出C的
有更好的解法嗎
做GMAT,排除法就是最好的方法。答案是比出来的,不是得出来的。
作者: jessie0317 时间: 2008-9-14 10:44
compared with about 35 percent a decade ago.
我想问compared with。。在句子中做什么成分啊?不是修饰43 percent吧?!
作者: 吴羽若 时间: 2008-12-3 21:12
看来看去最可能排除其他选项的原因还是it的指代。
因为代词在原句中一定要找到指代对象,但其他选项的it基本无指代对象。
作者: jomn111 时间: 2009-7-15 12:05
C似乎语法正确,但还是认为愿意改变得太过明显了..
作者: 56summer 时间: 2010-5-25 16:15
可是C不是改变原意了吗?
A 说的是在California,Hispanics中more than 43percent是under the age of 18
而C是说more than 43 percent of Californians under the age of eighteen are Hispanic,
作者: fansail 时间: 2010-9-26 23:19
Manhattan: for A, D and E, neither of them specifies what we're taking percentages of. You need to say "43% of Californians", or "43% of the population of California", or 43% of... something.
C:18岁以下的加州人有超过43%是Hispanic。没有问题。
而A:现在在加州,18岁以下的Hispanics占超过43%,但没有说是占什么的43%,其他有些选项也有这个问题。
作者: Blossomair 时间: 2010-11-9 20:24
这题明确比较对象就简单了,是35percent 和 43percent的对比,除了c以外的选项都是用california 或者 Hispanics 和数据比较,对象错了。
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