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作者: h14zpsn 时间: 2012-2-20 01:19
标题: 关于，后面的分句主语省略的问题
After several years of rapid growth, the healthcare company became one of the largest health care providers in themetropolitan area, while it then proved unable to handle the increase inbusiness, falling months behind in its payment to doctors and hospitals.
A. while it then provedunable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its paymentto
B. while it then provedunable to handle the increase in business and fell months behind in its paymentto
C. but then it provedunable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its paying
D. but then proving unableto handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying (E)
E. but then proved unableto handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying

源于prep 08-223
如果说，but后面如果是相同的主语可以省略的话，那么，and后面也是可以的么？

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and,compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to getin and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as manyas seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry asmany as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they costless,
C. Minivans carry as manyas seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have alower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying asmany as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, costless, (A)
E. Minivans, which carry asmany as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost islower, and they
像这题最后的那个and，是不是去掉那个，会更加明了，还是说，是必须加的在这个地方？
真的不需要在这里用it来充当形式主语么？

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-2-20 02:48
标题: 饭饭来啦冰冻~
饭饭觉得这主要还是看是不是歧义哈~
1、关于and.
（1）大前提在主句并列的范围内（这个前提是有必要的）
饭饭看了一些贴纸，能确定的是：若是句子给出的是SVO and SVO，我们就要改成->SVO, and SVO. 因为不更改的话就犯了run-on的错误了~~关于run-on详情请见prep08(part1)189.
但是其他真是说不准了，放几个句子吧~方便大家讨论哈~
Traveling the back roads of Hungary, in 1905 Bela Bartok and Zooltan Kodaly began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and were armed only with an Edison phonogrph and insatiable curiosity.
这个句子根据2003年各种荣誉斑斑啊前辈啊讨论是正确的：有逗号的并列主句第二个主语省略了。
（2）在有引导词引出的分句情况下，貌似有个是分句由because引出，and后面省略了because的例外出现，但是记得run-on的错误范围是在主句的情况下。冰冻留个神就行吧~

2、but例句讨论小补充。
At ground level, ozone is a harmful pollutant, but in the stratosphere it shields the Earth from the most biologically harmful radiation emitted by the Sun, radiation in the ultraviolet band of the spectrum.
这里it不能省略，通过以上讨论得出的思索结果应该是不能简单通过“逗号”、“并列连词”和“主语相同”来判断就能省略的。
这里it前面有方位状语如果省略 shields 有做stratosphere谓语的歧异而且结构还不完整
就算前面没有状语了it也不一定能省略：因为前面有At ground level 比较的是Ozone在不同的level上的不同作用。
miejue给出的省略的句子：Ozone is a harmful pollutant but shields the Earth from the most biologically harmful radiation emitted by the Sun, radiation in the ultraviolet band of the spectrum.他还附上一句：要理解题意。应该就是要从逻辑层面思索语法。

饭饭觉得这个主要是当时看有没有歧义~再根据其他选项的错误排除和相对优劣来综合选择吧~

下面附上一个链接，是对冰冻童鞋滴题进一步讨论，是后面讨论拓展出来的~应该是在3楼吧~开始出现该题：http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-485223-1-1.html?SearchText=主语省略

@-@。。。。先酱紫吧。。。饭饭不行了。。。要睡去了。。。。。open to discuss~

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-2-20 02:52

~@-@~刚敲完楼上滴那些。。。花现冰冻又添加题了。。。饭饭真不行了。。。。。看看其他伦的意见吧。。。。一会儿见哈。。

作者: h14zpsn 时间: 2012-2-20 05:06

~@-@~刚敲完楼上滴那些。。。花现冰冻又添加题了。。。饭饭真不行了。。。。。看看其他伦的意见吧。。。。一会儿见哈。。

-- by 会员泾渭不凡 (2012/2/20 2:52:58)

谢谢饭饭啊~~早点睡吧~~那两道题目其实都差不多的··我只是想问同一个问题而已哈~~~

作者: h14zpsn 时间: 2012-2-20 05:20
大致了解了饭饭，我觉得你那个but里面的讨论，前面的分句为主系表结构，后面的是主谓宾结构所以一定要有形式主语来代替啊~~~
this box is not very big, but is very cunning.
this box is not very big, but it contains a lot of candy.
this box does not contain cake, but contain candy.
大家帮忙看看这三句话对不对啊~~~~

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-2-20 11:38

大致了解了饭饭，我觉得你那个but里面的讨论，前面的分句为主系表结构，后面的是主谓宾结构所以一定要有形式主语来代替啊~~~
this box is not very big, but is very cunning.
this box is not very big, but it contains a lot of candy.
this box does not contain cake, but contain candy.
大家帮忙看看这三句话对不对啊~~~~

-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/20 5:20:54)

不是啊冰冻，不是因为前面主系表，后面主谓宾才要用形式主语的，那个分析是说由于状语存在会导致歧义啊，后来那个斑斑给了例句啊~就没有用形式主语啊~饭饭这里再发一遍哈：

miejue给出的省略的句子：Ozone is a harmful pollutant but shields the Earth from the most biologically harmful radiation emitted by the Sun, radiation in the ultraviolet band of the spectrum.他还附上一句：要理解题意。应该就是要从逻辑层面思索语法。

作者: h14zpsn 时间: 2012-2-20 12:31

-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/20 5:20:54)

-- by 会员泾渭不凡 (2012/2/20 11:38:25)

了解了饭饭，万分感谢哈~~~做SC先逻辑再语法~~~^^

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-2-20 12:43

了解了饭饭，万分感谢哈~~~做SC先逻辑再语法~~~^^

-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/20 12:31:38)

表客气啊。。。饭饭目前就知道这些了。。。不知道有没有那个NN天使能下凡来看看。。。帮帮顶吧。。。

。。。饭饭也想知道这个问题哈。。

作者: h14zpsn 时间: 2012-2-20 12:55

了解了饭饭，万分感谢哈~~~做SC先逻辑再语法~~~^^

-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/20 12:31:38)

表客气啊。。。饭饭目前就知道这些了。。。不知道有没有那个NN天使能下凡来看看。。。帮帮顶吧。。。

。。。饭饭也想知道这个问题哈。。

-- by 会员泾渭不凡 (2012/2/20 12:43:13)

可怜我的贴纸人烟稀少啊~~

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-2-21 09:05

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-3-13 20:04

After several years of rapid growth, the healthcare company became one of the largest health care providers in themetropolitan area, while it then proved unable to handle the increase inbusiness, falling months behind in its payment to doctors and hospitals.
A. while it then provedunable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its paymentto
B. while it then provedunable to handle the increase in business and fell months behind in its paymentto
C. but then it provedunable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its paying
D. but then proving unableto handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying (E)
E. but then proved unableto handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying

源于prep 08-223

-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/20 1:19:29)

问个问题哈~这里的D中的"proving"是绝对性错误还是相对错误？
饭饭最后是从优先简洁出发选择E，排除D的，感觉没有E的话，D也可以（补出it is），一直记得prove通常主动表被动，所以说D处这个问题应该是相对性错误是么？但是如果说“正在证明”，感觉逻辑又不通顺，这个角度的话是“绝对性错误”？明显混乱咯~~~~

求讨论~~~

作者: 泾渭不凡 时间: 2012-3-14 11:59

-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/20 1:19:29)

求讨论~~~

-- by 会员泾渭不凡 (2012/3/13 20:04:30)

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