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标题: GWD-8-22题,为什么B不行? [打印本页]

作者: tony6    时间: 2004-8-22 16:25
标题: GWD-8-22题,为什么B不行?

GWD8用基本工具--文本选择工具HIGHLIGHT后复制按钮是灰色的,不能复制,求助。


就是油画的那题,为什么B不行(under current standard)?


多谢。



作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-8-23 10:43

Q22:

When storing Renaissance oil paintings, museums conform to standards that call for
careful control of the surrounding temperature and humidity, with variations confined
within narrow margins. Maintaining this environment is very costly, and recent research
shows that even old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and
humidity. Therefore, museums could relax their standards and save money without
endangering their Renaissance oil paintings.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. Renaissance paintings were created in conditions involving far greater
fluctuations in temperature and humidity than those permitted by current
standards.

B. Under the current standards that museums use when storing Renaissance oil
paintings, those paintings do not deteriorate at all.

C. Museum collections typically do not contain items that are more likely to be
vulnerable to fluctuations in temperature and humidity than Renaissance oil
paintings.

D. None of the materials in Renaissance oil paintings other than the paint are
vulnerable enough to relatively wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity to
cause damage to the paintings.

E. Most Renaissance oil paintings are stored in museums located in regions near the
regions where the paintings were created.


作者: tony6    时间: 2004-8-23 11:11
什么也别说了,爱四你了,狗狗!~~~
作者: 麻集爱    时间: 2004-8-23 11:40
看我发的帖子。 破解pdf加密文件的软件。 
作者: tony6    时间: 2004-8-23 11:45

多谢麻哥,链接在此,方便看到本贴又有同样问题的G友


http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=22&ID=65894


同时,麻哥对本题发表点意见拉



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作者: leeon    时间: 2004-8-23 12:03

I think the answer is C;

B can not undermine the reasoning of the passage.

recent research
shows that even old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and
humidity (evidence).Therefore, museums could relax their standards and save money without
endangering their Renaissance oil paintings(conclusion).


So whatever B is true or not, it can not break the fact (old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity).

C points out no other items will be affected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity, so it's the assumption.
humidity


作者: tony6    时间: 2004-8-23 12:09

谢谢LEEON

GWD8的答案给的是D(B),说明作者倾向于D,但没有完全排除B

之前没有人问这题,大家对这一有争议的问题怎么看呢?

多多讨论


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-8-23 12:32
D错在enough.
作者: 竹雁    时间: 2004-8-23 15:16
以下是引用leeon在2004-8-23 12:03:00的发言:

I think the answer is C;


B can not undermine the reasoning of the passage.


recent research
shows that even old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and
humidity (evidence).Therefore, museums could relax their standards and save money without
endangering their Renaissance oil paintings(conclusion).



So whatever B is true or not, it can not break the fact (old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity).


C points out no other items will be affected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity, so it's the assumption.
humidity


这个题目是问support啊,不是undermine


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作者: leeon    时间: 2004-8-23 16:42

I read the passage again,I will change my answer to D;


C eliminate other items can cause the conclusion looks like the correct answer, in fact, it's not, C compares  items( that are more likely to be vulnerable to fluctuations in temperature and humidity) with Renaissance oil paintings, but the passage said even old oil paint was unaffected by..., it did not say Renaissance oil paintings were affected or not,even if it said  Renaissance oil paintings are unaffected, C also  would not be the correct answer, in that if other items that are more likely to be vulnerable to fluctuations in temperature and humidity than Renaissance oil paintings exist, they (other items) also could be unaffected by....


B is not the answer, B said those paintings do not deteriorate at all, there is some defferent between deteriorate at all and affected. So B is not a necessary condition.


I'm puzzled by the word 'enough' and eliminated it at first glance. This is a difficult question.


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作者: mindfree    时间: 2004-8-23 20:02

Answer is D.

B does not have to be true for this question. If the painting deteriorate somewhat with the standards, the standards can still be relaxed if the relaxation does not affect the restoration. I do not know why you choose B. Pls explain.

C is not correct either. It is clearly out of scope. We are talking about restoring this particular type of painting and the standards as well as the change are both for this kind of painting. Whether the museum has other kind of items is irrelevent. Please make sure you understand.

D is one typical answer. It simply points out that it might not be the oil that requires the standard, but something else.


作者: tony6    时间: 2004-8-23 20:40
以下是引用mindfree在2004-8-23 20:02:00的发言:

B does not have to be true for this question. If the painting deteriorate somewhat with the standards, the standards can still be relaxed if the relaxation does not affect the restoration. I do not know why you choose B. Pls explain.


thanks mindfree


the reason i originally chose B is:


the line of reasoning in the stem is since even old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity, museums could relax their standards and save money without endangering their Renaissance oil paintings.


so, if, we negate B, under the current standards that museums use when storing Renaissance oil paintings, those paintings already deteriorate, it'll be unreasonable to relax the standards.


pls correct me.


作者: tony6    时间: 2004-8-23 21:11

mindfree:

after scrutinizing the stem several times, I think I might grasp two elements of key points. that is, Renaissance oil paintings and standards about fluctuations in temperature and humidity, and the fact presented in the stem that even old oil paint is unaffected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity is unshakable, so B and C should be out of scope.

In B, those paintings deteriorate perhaps due to some reasons other than fluctuations in temperature and humidity.

In C, some items might be hurt which are unrelated to Renaissance oil paintings.

right?


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-8-23 22:39
Mindfree, thx for your explain, I can understand both B and C are irrelevant choice, but how to explain the word 'enough' in answer D, I think it is not necessary.
作者: mindfree    时间: 2004-8-23 22:55

To Tony6:

The deteriorating is out of scope. Within the given reasoning, even if the paiting deteriorates badly with the standard, the argument still holds. Just assume that it is the best approach and the same effect can be achieved without the standard.

To Leeon:

It is better with "enough" as it makes it clear that damage done without the standard will make a difference. It simply rules out the possibility that some negligible/unnoticeable damages will be done wihout the standard. In such case, D is not a strong answer any more.


作者: 竹雁    时间: 2004-8-24 07:07

后来我仔细看了下

认为是D

不过D里欠了个字,the paint该是the old paint

是打错了还是我错了?


作者: rhod    时间: 2004-10-2 22:50
应该是the paint.
作者: crackpot    时间: 2005-7-16 21:40

再请nn帮忙,还是没看懂选项D:


None of the materials in Renaissance oil paintings other than the paint are vulnerable enough to relatively wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity to cause damage to the paintings.



作者: mmfoolish    时间: 2005-9-13 23:34
关于D,我有个问题,是否D应该为the old oil paint?这样才是比较说明啊。我就是没看到D中有old oil,认为the paint 应该包含文艺复兴时期的paint--》总体怎么可以和个体比较呢?请指正,谢谢!
作者: illgetthere    时间: 2005-9-14 18:24

题目中已经隐含the old oil paint比文艺复兴式的paint更容易affected by wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity,D中是说materials other than the paint(指文艺复兴时的paint)  are not vulnerable enough to relatively wide fluctuations in temperature and humidity  取非为削弱,排除了materials cause damage的可能


请指正



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作者: illgetthere    时间: 2005-9-14 19:32
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作者: illgetthere    时间: 2005-9-19 11:43

我再顶


作者: illgetthere    时间: 2005-9-27 17:58
以下是引用illgetthere在2005-9-19 11:43:00的发言:

我再顶




作者: leonchan    时间: 2005-10-12 00:27
以下是引用mindfree在2004-8-23 20:02:00的发言:

Answer is D.


B does not have to be true for this question. If the painting deteriorate somewhat with the standards, the standards can still be relaxed if the relaxation does not affect the restoration. I do not know why you choose B. Pls explain.


C is not correct either. It is clearly out of scope. We are talking about restoring this particular type of painting and the standards as well as the change are both for this kind of painting. Whether the museum has other kind of items is irrelevent. Please make sure you understand.


D is one typical answer. It simply points out that it might not be the oil that requires the standard, but something else.


mindfree不是说了么,B的条件太强;即使有一点影响还是可以接受的,因为这不是省钱么(按原文的逻辑 very costly)


LOR:因为实验发现old paint不会受温度湿度影响,所以relax  the standard 不会影响old painting。问假设。
因此,C中的items that are more likely to be vulnerable to fluctuations in temperature and humidity than Renaissance oil paintings. 无关


D. None of the materials in Renaissance oil paintings other than the paint are...
取非 = SOME of the materials in Renaissance oil paintings other than the paint are...


既然油画上的paint不会受温度湿度影响(因为实验证明old paint如何如何),而且D说其他冬冬也不会受影响而破坏油画,这不就全了么。



作者: milanforever    时间: 2005-12-3 15:34

首先弄清painting and paint mean different things. painting画,paint油漆



choice B:  狡猾的无关选项。 文章结构:old paint is unaffected by wide fluctuation => relaxing standards without endangering paintings.



B说:在现在的条件下,paintings do not deteriorate at all. 取非:If paintings did deteriorate a little, 只要不是使paintings endangered, relaxing standards is ok.



C. 无关。文章重点讨论如何保存oil paintings. 如果文章说的是保存oil paintings 和别的艺术品, 那么可以考虑C



D. paints以外的成分,不会因为wide fluctuation而损坏paintings. (典型ETS答案:它因不导致B).



作者: steveyangxt    时间: 2005-12-14 19:06
以下是引用milanforever在2005-12-3 15:34:00的发言:

首先弄清painting and paint mean different things. painting画,paint油漆






choice B:  狡猾的无关选项。 文章结构:old paint is unaffected by wide fluctuation => relaxing standards without endangering paintings.





B说:在现在的条件下,paintings do not deteriorate at all. 取非:If paintings did deteriorate a little, 只要不是使paintings endangered, relaxing standards is ok.





C. 无关。文章重点讨论如何保存oil paintings. 如果文章说的是保存oil paintings 和别的艺术品, 那么可以考虑C





D. paints以外的成分,不会因为wide fluctuation而损坏paintings. (典型ETS答案:它因不导致B).





首先弄清painting and paint mean different things. painting画,paint油漆

哦开始就把文章中的油漆看成油画了。em12  


所以肯定是d   油漆可以不用恒温恒湿, 不能得出油画也可以, 如果油画包含其他怕改变的温湿的成分, 也不行的


作者: hawkinsxie    时间: 2006-6-14 13:51

mindfree, lawyer_1看他们的解释,真能让人豁然开朗。

就像当年读Linux的源程序


作者: tangzimo    时间: 2007-10-3 21:23
以下是引用milanforever在2005-12-3 15:34:00的发言:

首先弄清painting and paint mean different things. painting画,paint油漆

choice B:  狡猾的无关选项。
            
文章结构:old paint is unaffected by wide fluctuation => relaxing standards without endangering paintings.

B说:在现在的条件下,paintings do not deteriorate at all. 取非:If paintings did deteriorate a little, 只要不是使paintings endangered, relaxing standards is ok.

C. 无关。文章重点讨论如何保存oil paintings. 如果文章说的是保存oil paintings 和别的艺术品, 那么可以考虑C

D. paints以外的成分,不会因为wide fluctuation而损坏paintings. (典型ETS答案:它因不导致B).

这个解释太关键了!!!

其实我就是开始根本没分清paint和painting,才做错的!

谢谢!


作者: tangzimo    时间: 2007-10-3 21:35

我个人对“不选B”的理由的补充:

将B取非:在现有条件下,painting已经deteriorate了。

可是这又能如何呢?

没有提到,降低条件后,这种deterioration会加剧啊!!!

所以,即使已经deteriorate了,还是可以降低条件啊,反正不会进一步deteriorate了。

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各位以为如何?

原文说了,即使是old oil paint 也不会受较大的温度湿度变化的影响,所以我这个deterioration不会加重的解释也是行得通的吧?


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作者: gordonsanchs    时间: 2007-10-3 23:53
B肯定不对,现在的条件下不deteriorate不代表降低标准以后不会dereriorate
作者: yankevi    时间: 2007-12-18 10:51

能解释一下这篇文章不?大概意思是什么?


作者: jacky_cmd    时间: 2008-1-22 18:08

问题出现在争论的焦点是现在的情况下,这个情况时值在博物馆没有放松温度和适度的条件下,第2个选项不可一支持新的放松温度和适度的建议。


作者: shirley8707    时间: 2008-5-10 19:57
b is irrelevent.we should focus on the evidence the agument give us .the reasoning is from the paint which cannot be effect and then the painting can also be uneffected. so what is the gap?on b, it is obviously out of the scope.
作者: happycg    时间: 2008-6-5 10:35
ddddddddddddddd
作者: xinyp    时间: 2008-6-12 20:54

单词关:

painting-油画

paint: 油漆

原文说油漆不受环境影响。则假设应该是补足GAP,油画中的其他物质也不受环境影响


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