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作者: Lois6669    时间: 2012-1-26 22:48
标题: 请教manhattan
一个句子中it可以同时做形式主语和代词?请NN指点

今天看Manhattan的SC,看到如下句子
It would hardly be fair for the meatpacking industry to blame regulators for the harm that it has inflicted upon itself in the sub-prime meat sector.
Manhattan说这个句子是对的
我就有点奇怪了,句子中的第一个it是形式主语,第二个it和itself都是指代industry的。记得是PREP还是OG上遇到做类似的句子,当时看讲解说这样的用法是错误的。
见过一个句子中出现两个形式主语的正确句子,但是没见过上述句子。所以想请教下NN,这样的用法是正确的吗?
作者: michaelmay17    时间: 2012-1-27 00:28
难道是从句的原因?帮lz顶~
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-1-27 06:30
这句话,第一个It是placeholder,这里叫做形式主语,就说没有具体的指代。后面的it, its都是有具体的指代,it指代industry没有问题。

贴一下我摘录的Ron的总结,典型的例子是OG57
你举的这句话属于第二种类型。
THE ONLY PRONOUNS ON THE GMAT THAT DON'T HAVE TO STANDFOR NOUNS:
It + description+ that +complete sentence (independent clause)
It + description+ to +verb (infinitive)
It + (TOBE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

these "it"s DO NOT have to stand for nouns.
ALL other gmat pronouns must stand for nouns.


FIRST TYPE

It + is obvious + that Medellín will beat Nacional in Wednesday’s game.


It+ has been said + that the moon is made of green cheese.

Johnny found it + counterintuitive + that the GMAT tests exceptions to rules just as often as ittests the rules themselves.


SECOND TYPE

It + is often difficult + to distinguish between a past-tense verb and a pastparticiple.

The rain made it + quite challenging + to drive on the freeway.


THIRD TYPE

It + was my own brother + who committed the crime.




一个句子中it可以同时做形式主语和代词?请NN指点

今天看Manhattan的SC,看到如下句子
It would hardly be fair for the meatpacking industry to blame regulators for the harm that it has inflicted upon itself in the sub-prime meat sector.
Manhattan说这个句子是对的
我就有点奇怪了,句子中的第一个it是形式主语,第二个it和itself都是指代industry的。记得是PREP还是OG上遇到做类似的句子,当时看讲解说这样的用法是错误的。
见过一个句子中出现两个形式主语的正确句子,但是没见过上述句子。所以想请教下NN,这样的用法是正确的吗?
-- by 会员 Lois6669 (2012/1/26 22:48:31)


作者: michaelmay17    时间: 2012-1-27 10:21
这句话,第一个It是placeholder,这里叫做形式主语,就说没有具体的指代。后面的it, its都是有具体的指代,it指代industry没有问题。

贴一下我摘录的Ron的总结,典型的例子是OG57
你举的这句话属于第二种类型。
THE ONLY PRONOUNS ON THE GMAT THAT DON'T HAVE TO STANDFOR NOUNS:
It + description+ that +complete sentence (independent clause)
It + description+ to +verb (infinitive)
It + (TOBE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

these "it"s DO NOT have to stand for nouns.
ALL other gmat pronouns must stand for nouns.


FIRST TYPE

It + is obvious + that Medellín will beat Nacional in Wednesday’s game.


It+ has been said + that the moon is made of green cheese.

Johnny found it + counterintuitive + that the GMAT tests exceptions to rules just as often as ittests the rules themselves.


SECOND TYPE

It + is often difficult + to distinguish between a past-tense verb and a pastparticiple.

The rain made it + quite challenging + to drive on the freeway.


THIRD TYPE

It + was my own brother + who committed the crime.




一个句子中it可以同时做形式主语和代词?请NN指点

今天看Manhattan的SC,看到如下句子
It would hardly be fair for the meatpacking industry to blame regulators for the harm that it has inflicted upon itself in the sub-prime meat sector.
Manhattan说这个句子是对的
我就有点奇怪了,句子中的第一个it是形式主语,第二个it和itself都是指代industry的。记得是PREP还是OG上遇到做类似的句子,当时看讲解说这样的用法是错误的。
见过一个句子中出现两个形式主语的正确句子,但是没见过上述句子。所以想请教下NN,这样的用法是正确的吗?
-- by 会员 Lois6669 (2012/1/26 22:48:31)



-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/27 6:30:17)


解释的很清楚,受教了~
作者: adimeisi    时间: 2012-8-13 09:33
请教下,manhattan里面还有些一条规矩就是,句子中的相同的代词只能指代相同的东西,这个好像貌似有点冲突~~~
作者: adimeisi    时间: 2012-8-13 09:37
BTW, it的指代问题是要根据就近原则么,如果是的话,第二个it指代regulator不是也可以么,这样就有歧义了,请NN指点。
作者: pirate舟    时间: 2012-10-7 14:03
BTW, it的指代问题是要根据就近原则么,如果是的话,第二个it指代regulator不是也可以么,这样就有歧义了,请NN指点。
-- by 会员 adimeisi (2012/8/13 9:37:56)



it is the plural noun 'regulators', not 'regulator', in the sentence. So, it'll not be ambiguous
作者: yychole    时间: 2014-4-18 20:55
adimeisi 发表于 2012-8-13 09:33
请教下,manhattan里面还有些一条规矩就是,句子中的相同的代词只能指代相同的东西,这个好像貌似有点冲突~ ...

对我也有这样的问题……有人可以帮忙回答吗?虽然都已经是2014年了%……
作者: vivi_olivia    时间: 2018-5-24 09:40
同问 it的指代问题是要根据就近原则么 ? 不知道怎么判断 it到底指代那个antecedent




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