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标题: [求助]of的用法,og128与og219的题干 [打印本页]

作者: Tiangel    时间: 2004-8-13 00:27
标题: [求助]of的用法,og128与og219的题干

128. New hardy varieties of rice show promise of pro­ducing high yields without the costly requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties.


(A)  requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties


(B)   requirements by earlier high-yielding varieties of application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation


(C)  requirements for application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation of earlier high-yielding varieties


(D)  application of commercial fertilizer and irriga­tion that was required by earlier high-yielding varieties


(E)   irrigation and application of commercial fertil­izer that were required by earlier high-yielding varieties


Choice E, the best answer, clearly and grammatically expresses the idea that two costly procedures, irrigation and the applica­tion of... fertilizer, were required by earlier high-yielding varieties of rice. In A, the placement of by earlier... varieties immediately after application of fertilizer suggests that the varieties applied the fertilizer. In B and D, the phrase applica­tion of... fertilizer and irrigation is ambiguous in meaning: it cannot be clearly determined whether applying fertilizer and irrigating are a single operation or two distinct operations. In C, only irrigation--not both irrigation and fertilization--is clearly associated with the earlier... varieties of rice.


219. While larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regional and community banks are finding that the cost asso­ciated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.



我不太明白of的用法到底是怎样的。



这里D的错误OG说是D里面的容易歧义。如果application是主语,后面用was,那这么解释:A)商业化肥和灌溉的应用,还是B)商业化肥的应用,和灌溉?所以有歧义的。



而仔细又看了一下这道题感觉E也有歧义“1 灌溉与商用化肥的应用were   2商务化肥的灌溉与应用 were“



我根据og128与og219总结of结构如下



(a and b) of c这种结构就只能是a,b共同属于c,即og128题的E是“商务化肥的灌溉与应用 were”而不是“

灌溉与商用化肥的应用were ”


c of a and b,即可以理解为a与b的c,也可以理解为a的c与b,对么?



感觉还是迷糊~


就好象就象og219题( development and maintenance )of (new products and technical staff)


这里是不是有无数层歧义?如发展与新产品和技术员工的维护,新产品的发展与维护和技术员工等,当然这里可以用逻辑意思知道发展与维护和技术员工不对应,这样可以排除一些歧义。



麻烦NN指教~谢谢~


作者: Tiangel    时间: 2004-8-15 16:21

up~


作者: LISAYUAN750616    时间: 2004-8-17 17:14
顶!
作者: Tiangel    时间: 2004-8-18 10:33

keep on upping~:p


作者: hpp920    时间: 2004-8-18 10:52

感觉很难总结.最重要的是逻辑意思.正确答案E本身单从语法也有别的解释, 但逻辑上只有一个.

og219: ( development and maintenance )of (new products and technical staff)当时我也想了一下, 语法上是有很多解释, 但讲的通的大家都熟悉的说法可能只有一个.如果有哪个高手总结出来了, 请贴一下, 先谢了.


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-8-18 11:20

128的D歧义在于可以有两种理解:application of commercial fertilizer and (application of irrigation)或application of (commercial fertilizer and irrigation),而且,这两种解读从逻辑上都可以接受,这就是OG所谓的到底是整体还是个体;E其实没有歧义,因为,如果按整体概念补出的话irrigation of commercial fertilizer从逻辑上根本不匹配;其实A and B of C的确可以有多种解读方法,关键在于是否逻辑匹配,但是个人认为,(A of C) and (B of C)是优先的结构,如果说不通,A and (B of C)也可以作为一种选择。


作者: Tiangel    时间: 2004-8-20 17:37

谢谢stoneren GG和hpp920 MM

你们的意思就是对于这种结构应该逻辑为先对么。我明白了谢谢~

(小声问stoneren一句:你说“因为,如果按整体概念补出的话irrigation of commercial fertilizer从逻辑上根本不匹配;”但是我觉得商业化肥的灌溉也可以啊,难道只有水的灌溉才可以?呵呵,也许有些钻牛角尖了,但是有一些逻辑题,我总是看着答案知道有道理,但是自己做却总是看不出来。)


作者: margaret1013    时间: 2004-11-4 04:33

another question:

"with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance...."

Does anyone think this expression is not really a good parallel? Is this kind of parallel error always targeted by GMAT?


作者: wingkim    时间: 2005-10-21 11:16
以下是引用rt316在2004-8-18 11:20:00的发言:

128的D歧义在于可以有两种理解:application of commercial fertilizer and (application of irrigation)或application of (commercial fertilizer and irrigation),而且,这两种解读从逻辑上都可以接受,(这两种理解其实意思都是商业化肥和灌溉的应用,另外一种理解application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation是商业化肥的应用和灌溉。)这就是OG所谓的到底是整体还是个体;E其实没有歧义,因为,如果按整体概念补出的话irrigation of commercial fertilizer从逻辑上根本不匹配;其实A and B of C的确可以有多种解读方法,关键在于是否逻辑匹配,但是个人认为,(A of C) and (B of C)是优先的结构,如果说不通,A and (B of C)也可以作为一种选择。


除了蓝色部分,其他完全同意这样的解释。


作者: titatita    时间: 2006-1-26 10:07
以下是引用rt316在2004-8-18 11:20:00的发言:

128的D歧义在于可以有两种理解:application of commercial fertilizer and (application of irrigation)或application of (commercial fertilizer and irrigation),而且,这两种解读从逻辑上都可以接受,这就是OG所谓的到底是整体还是个体;E其实没有歧义,因为,如果按整体概念补出的话irrigation of commercial fertilizer从逻辑上根本不匹配;其实A and B of C的确可以有多种解读方法,关键在于是否逻辑匹配,但是个人认为,(A of C) and (B of C)是优先的结构,如果说不通,A and (B of C)也可以作为一种选择。


agree


作者: titatita    时间: 2006-1-26 10:07
以下是引用Tiangel在2004-8-20 17:37:00的发言:

谢谢stoneren GG和hpp920 MM


你们的意思就是对于这种结构应该逻辑为先对么。我明白了谢谢~


(小声问stoneren一句:你说“因为,如果按整体概念补出的话irrigation of commercial fertilizer从逻辑上根本不匹配;”但是我觉得商业化肥的灌溉也可以啊,难道只有水的灌溉才可以?呵呵,也许有些钻牛角尖了,但是有一些逻辑题,我总是看着答案知道有道理,但是自己做却总是看不出来。)


商业化肥的灌溉   逻辑不通


作者: huangyh03    时间: 2007-11-6 11:21
题干中未划线部分并不表示他一定没有问题,只是其并非我们应该关注的问题,我是这样考虑的
作者: guting109    时间: 2008-10-20 14:55
以下是引用rt316在2004-8-18 11:20:00的发言:

128的D歧义在于可以有两种理解:application of commercial fertilizer and (application of irrigation)或application of (commercial fertilizer and irrigation),而且,这两种解读从逻辑上都可以接受,这就是OG所谓的到底是整体还是个体;E其实没有歧义,因为,如果按整体概念补出的话irrigation of commercial fertilizer从逻辑上根本不匹配;其实A and B of C的确可以有多种解读方法,关键在于是否逻辑匹配,但是个人认为,(A of C) and (B of C)是优先的结构,如果说不通,A and (B of C)也可以作为一种选择。

好吧 也只能这样想了~谢谢
作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-4-12 09:38
这个题还是有点儿意思的

219. While
larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing
operations, many smaller regional and community banks are finding that
the costs asso­ciated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.

associated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff
分词和名词并列


作者: fishlibai    时间: 2009-7-11 05:01

While larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regional and community banks
            are finding that
            the costs asso­ciated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.

对这个题目的意思不太明白。到底什么是 prohibitive的啊? 

the costs asso­ciated with ...and with .........为什么不是costs of sth 啊?这里没有交代清楚是什么的costs啊???


作者: Schicksal    时间: 2016-7-31 21:03
fishlibai 发表于 2009-7-11 05:01
While larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regiona ...

the costs are prohibitive
作者: 学习gmat的空管    时间: 2016-7-31 23:36
fishlibai 发表于 2009-7-11 05:01
While larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regiona ...

prohibitive有“过高的”意思




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