187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.
(A) Americans were killed as
(B) Americans were killed than
(C) Americans were killed than those who
(D) more Americans were killed as there
(E) more Americans were killed as those who
and in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion. In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the idea of more.
请问:为什么说those who is a wordy intrusion?AS…AS结构是否要求完全平行,也就是说times as many Americans were killed as,因为前面是句子,所以第二个AS后面也要跟个句子, . In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the idea of more.再问一下这个:有点疑惑,我觉得OG中X times more than(OG199)有作为正确答案出现,为什么说它REDUNDANT
先回答你最后一个问题:OG199中的用法和OG187中的X TIMES用法不一样.
187: FOUR TIMES AS MANY AS....
199: AN AREA 100 TIMES GREATER THAN...
两个都对.但是:
FOUR TIMES AS MANY ... THAN和FOUR TIMES AS MANY MORE... 和 100 TIMES THE AREA 都是错的.
要分清句子结构.
1. As many ... as中的第二个as可以做代词, 因此后面的those who就wordy
2. as many ...as已经表达了"more"的意思, 所以不能加这类程度副词了
我还是觉得as many as后面直接接 would...有些怪怪的，因为毕竟as前是americans
1. As many ... as中的第二个as可以做代词, 因此后面的those who就wordy
2. as many ...as已经表达了"more"的意思, 所以不能加这类程度副词了
as many as是和...一样多，而more是比。。。多，怎么能说意思一样呢？
既然还没有人回答偶的问题，就自己顶一个吧。
og187解释是说In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the idea of more.应该是这样理解吧：“四倍于和。。。一样多”＝“大于”
这样还比较好理解。
但是新问题又出现了。
og239
Neither A nor B produces the idiomatic phrase "... as many as, or more than, 250 ..."--a phrase that would be needlessly wordy here.
就不明白为什么是wordy了
把题目贴一下
Organized in 1966 by the Fish and Wildlife Service, the Breeding Bird Survey uses annual roadside counts along established routes for monitoring of population changes of as many as. or of more than 250 bird species, including 180 songbirds.
(A) for monitoring of population changes of as many as, or of
(B) to monitor population changes of as many, or
(C) to monitor changes in the populations of
239正确答案是c
as many as = more than.
so in the example you sited, C is the correct answer.
看完了所有的讨论，我还是不明白。。。是一点思路都没有的那种。。。
187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at
(A) Americans were killed as
(B) Americans were killed than
(C) Americans were killed than those who
(D) more Americans were killed as there（A）
(E) more Americans were killed as those who
答案倒是容易选出，可是怎么到底怎么来看这句话呢？
four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of
请问这句话哪个是主语呀？ 是four times as many Americans were killed as 吗？好奇怪！
有两种说法：一是as能作代词，二是as后面有省略。
那么不管哪种说法，如果有明白的xdjm能不能把被代替的部分补到句子里，或者把省略的部分补到句子里给我讲讲，让我明白这句子到底是怎么回事，真的感谢！
在线等待答案。。。谢谢了！：）
我的理解:
four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of
请讨论.
In one of the battles, 1862, many American were killed four times as many as (those) would later be killed on the D-Day.
为了强调人数的众多，将four times表示倍数的词放到了前面。
看完了所有的讨论，我还是不明白。。。是一点思路都没有的那种。。。
187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at
(A) Americans were killed as
(B) Americans were killed than
(C) Americans were killed than those who
(D) more Americans were killed as there（A）
(E) more Americans were killed as those who
答案倒是容易选出，可是怎么到底怎么来看这句话呢？
four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of
请问这句话哪个是主语呀？ 是four times as many Americans were killed as 吗？好奇怪！
有两种说法：一是as能作代词，二是as后面有省略。
那么不管哪种说法，如果有明白的xdjm能不能把被代替的部分补到句子里，或者把省略的部分补到句子里给我讲讲，让我明白这句子到底是怎么回事，真的感谢！
在线等待答案。。。谢谢了！：）
as....as...後面的as 也可以做關代(=who, which..) 也就是說具有連接詞的成分. 比較用法對我們最困難得是省略,所以只要把省略的部分補上去,妳就明白了. 我補上省略的部分：
..four times as many Americans were killed as those(=Americans) would later be killed on the beaches of
..four times as many Americans were killed who those(=Americans) would later be killed on the beaches of
..four times as many Americans were killed who would later be killed ...剛剛說as具有關係代詞who,which的用法, 所以這裡用as代替who 就變成原題的樣子囉！！
as具有關係代詞who,which的用法??
不解, 疑惑中....
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as many as 后面的as作代词？
还是省略了后面的Am?
比较分句的结构我倒理解了，那主句呢，主句的句子结构呢，前面的那个as又怎么理解
four times前面都是做状语的吧，主句恢复到正常的结构应该怎么表示。
那位过路的NN能帮小弟解惑一下。
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不明白
为什么省略in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion
为什么省略in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion
不解为什么省略in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion
不解这里第二个as做关系代词，与those连用就重复了
OG中没说重复,只说了wordy,所以补出those who我觉得没有问题,只不过不简洁.
至于很多人说的as...as中第二个as可以做关系代词的说法,我很难苟同. 根据薄冰语法, 第一个as是副词,修饰其中的形容词,比如此题中的many;第二个as是连词才对啊,因为后面引出了一个句子嘛!
OG中没说重复,只说了wordy,所以补出those who我觉得没有问题,只不过不简洁.
至于很多人说的as...as中第二个as可以做关系代词的说法,我很难苟同. 根据薄冰语法, 第一个as是副词,修饰其中的形容词,比如此题中的many;第二个as是连词才对啊,因为后面引出了一个句子嘛!
同意第二个as是连词，这样的话补出those who没问题啊，请教NN
我们分步来看：
第一步、原句：
(Four times as many as <amercicans would later killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day>) Americans
were killed.
其中，下划线部分是句子主干，（）是主语americans的表数量的定语，这个数量定语用的是four times as many as that的结构。<>即时用一个从句来代替that。
第二步、倒装
因为（）这个修饰太长，所以放到了句末，成了Americans
were killed（four times as....）。
第三步、强调（第二次倒装）
“four times as many”这个主语数量修饰是本句表达的核心内容，所以被第二次倒装到句首，表示强调。
即为(Four times as many) Americans were killed (as <americans later.....>),至此，原句的主语修饰部分（）被分为前后两段，就是我标的两个（）。
第四步、省略
句子结构在第三步已经变形完成，剩下的是第二个括号中as的介词宾语从句<amricans later>.由于此宾语从句主语Amercians与主句的主语Americans是一样的，故省略。
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我们分步来看：
第一步、原句：
(Four times as many as <amercicans would later killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day>) Americans
were killed.
其中，下划线部分是句子主干，（）是主语americans的表数量的定语，这个数量定语用的是four times as many as that的结构。<>即时用一个从句来代替that。
第二步、倒装
因为（）这个修饰太长，所以放到了句末，成了Americans
were killed（four times as....）。
第三步、强调（第二次倒装）
“four times as many”这个主语数量修饰是本句表达的核心内容，所以被第二次倒装到句首，表示强调。
即为(Four times as many) Americans were killed (as <americans later.....>),至此，原句的主语修饰部分（）被分为前后两段，就是我标的两个（）。
第四步、省略
句子结构在第三步已经变形完成，剩下的是第二个括号中as的介词宾语从句<amricans later>.由于此宾语从句主语Amercians与主句的主语Americans是一样的，故省略。
这种专业的回答是振奋人心的！
我们分步来看：
第一步、原句：
(Four times as many as <amercicans would later killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day>) Americans
were killed.
其中，下划线部分是句子主干，（）是主语americans的表数量的定语，这个数量定语用的是four times as many as that的结构。<>即时用一个从句来代替that。
第二步、倒装
因为（）这个修饰太长，所以放到了句末，成了Americans
were killed（four times as....）。
第三步、强调（第二次倒装）
“four times as many”这个主语数量修饰是本句表达的核心内容，所以被第二次倒装到句首，表示强调。
即为(Four times as many) Americans were killed (as <americans later.....>),至此，原句的主语修饰部分（）被分为前后两段，就是我标的两个（）。
第四步、省略
句子结构在第三步已经变形完成，剩下的是第二个括号中as的介词宾语从句<amricans later>.由于此宾语从句主语Amercians与主句的主语Americans是一样的，故省略。
这种专业解答的确叫人兴奋。
小弟有一点疑惑的地方就是红色字体，觉得应该是as引导的比较状语从句吧？as在这里做关系代词，指代americans.
four times 是American的数量定语，as many as amercicans would later killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day做比较状语从句修饰four times
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1. He does not possess such qualifications as are necessary to be an actor.他并不具备一名演员应有的资格。
2. She bought the same skirt as I had bought last week so I need to talk to her about it so we don't wear them the same at the same time.她买的那条裙子和我上周买的一模一样，我要和她商量一下，免得“撞衫”。
上面两个例句中定语从句都使用了as作为关系代词，我们可以发现例句1中含有“such…as…”，例句2中含有“the same…as…”，由此可见，我们到底要不要使用as来做关系代词，可以根据句中是否出现了与as搭配的短语进行判断。
3. The murderer who had killed several people on the campus was finally arrested by the police, as was expected.如我们所愿，那个在校园杀害数人的杀人犯终于被警方逮捕。
该句中并未出现与as搭配的短语，此处的用法是as做关系代词指代前面整个句子，在定语从句中做主语。
我们分步来看：
第一步、原句：
(Four times as many as <amercicans would later killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day>) Americans
were killed.
其中，下划线部分是句子主干，（）是主语americans的表数量的定语，这个数量定语用的是four times as many as that的结构。<>即时用一个从句来代替that。
第二步、倒装
因为（）这个修饰太长，所以放到了句末，成了Americans
were killed（four times as....）。
第三步、强调（第二次倒装）
“four times as many”这个主语数量修饰是本句表达的核心内容，所以被第二次倒装到句首，表示强调。
即为(Four times as many) Americans were killed (as <americans later.....>),至此，原句的主语修饰部分（）被分为前后两段，就是我标的两个（）。
第四步、省略
句子结构在第三步已经变形完成，剩下的是第二个括号中as的介词宾语从句<amricans later>.由于此宾语从句主语Amercians与主句的主语Americans是一样的，故省略。
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