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标题: 求助——看过曼哈顿语法笔记后的几个疑问语法点 [打印本页]

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-24 17:05
标题: 求助——看过曼哈顿语法笔记后的几个疑问语法点
今天看了曼哈顿语法，有几处不明白的，请各位NN赐教。

1.关于this/these that /those在句子指代中不能裸奔，必须加名词才可以。
前面this/ these我理解，单是that/those也不可以吗？比如有例句：
The money spent by her parents is more than that spent by her children.
这里的that 并没有跟money啊（我知道后面的money和前面的money不是一个money)……

2. 关于副词不能修饰名词 namely 是副词，但是怎么修饰名词了呢？
Prep08语法笔记有这么个例句：The other change, namely the increase in electronic equipment, has slowed down

3.曼哈顿笔记里也有说，if引导的条件句，不能用情态动词
但是笔记里有这样的例句：If she eats pizza, she may become ill.
怎么解释呢？

4.曼哈顿：likelihood/possibility that 后面用一般过去时。但是prep08笔记中P9页说 likelihood/possibility/expect that 后面用一般将来时。

5. 曼哈顿语法说，be to 在GMAT中永远是错的，要用will/should 代替。但是PREP08语法中说，aim/goal/intention/way/method+ be + to do 没错，我自己也明白这个。
能不能帮我解释一下Man语法是什么意思呢？

6. that 引导的主语从句到底能不能放于句首？
OG 57题中，(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault 这句话是错误的。因为that 引导的句子放在句首不恰当，造成主语太长，应用it做形式主语。
但是PREP 08 220题选项 B. That some fraternal twins resemble each other greatly while others look quite dissimilar highlights an interesting and often overlooked feature of fraternal-twin pairs, namely that they vary considerably 却是正确答案。
求解释！！！
7. ones可不可以指代people（当作为人民讲的时候是复数名词）
PREP 08 218题 Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones
错误选项E的解释：ones 不能指代people（ From Manhattan). 但是矛盾来了，在prep08语法笔记83页中，版主@aeoluseros举了个例句：There are a few young people and some older ones in the house. (ones代替可数名词复数people)

到底哪个正确呢？？？

诚心求教！！谢谢了！！

作者: jili_111 时间: 2011-12-24 22:50
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作者: 12604698 时间: 2011-12-24 22:56
可怜的孩子，我也帮你顶

作者: jili_111 时间: 2011-12-24 23:01

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-25 10:52
help!!!

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-26 12:00

求牛牛解答……

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-26 16:34
关于问题一，我在prep08笔记中197页看到这么一句话，these在充当主语的时候是可以单独指代的，但是充当宾语的时候不可以。不知道这种说法对吗？
上例句：Besides adding complementary flavors to many foods, hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-27 22:05
求助。。。。

作者: alancui 时间: 2011-12-27 22:47
1. In the original book, it is said " you may use any of there pronouns as adjective in front of nouns", not "you must use them in front of nouns". When you use "that" or "those" to refer some noun or nouns, you must modify this new copy or copies, just as you did in your counter example.

2. In your example, "namely" is modifying the whole appositive, not the noun.

3. I am not sure where you find this. In Manhattan SC, the author only emphasizes that "The helping verbs would and should should NEVER go in the if part of the sentence".

4. Please tell me the specific page on which “likelihood/possibility“ is discussed.

5. In colloquial sentences, we usually use "be to" to express a future action. In GMAT, you must use "will" or "should" instead.

6. The subjective clause introduced by "that” is correct in GMAT. The frequently used structure is "it can hardly be said that…..", in which "that…" is the really subject but put in a revert position. In this option, the clause preceded by "that…" is put in the original position as the subject, but what is "it is their fault". This sentence is in passive voice, and it doesn't need an object any more.

7. As I haven't worked on Prep yet, please allow me to skip this. However, I haven't noticed "ones can't not refer to people".

作者: shaoheng1120 时间: 2011-12-27 22:51
还是因题而已吧，关于指示代词不能裸奔，要谨慎。刚刚看verbal SC86 就算裸奔的正确答案。
楼主善于旁征博引，很适合摸清G的脉路，不错啊。

作者: shaoheng1120 时间: 2011-12-27 23:02

关于问题一，我在prep08笔记中197页看到这么一句话，these在充当主语的时候是可以单独指代的，但是充当宾语的时候不可以。不知道这种说法对吗？
上例句：Besides adding complementary flavors to many foods, hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.

-- by 会员奈奈奈 (2011/12/26 16:34:41)

LZ：举的例子来源正确答案么？
是these 指代 hot sauces，但是 and these...感觉 run-on.
若these指代宾语，也说不通啊。
am I right？

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-28 11:54

1. In the original book, it is said " you may use any of there pronouns as adjective in front of nouns", not "you must use them in front of nouns". When you use "that" or "those" to refer some noun or nouns, you must modify this new copy or copies, just as you did in your counter example.

2. In your example, "namely" is modifying the whole appositive, not the noun.

3. I am not sure where you find this. In Manhattan SC, the author only emphasizes that "The helping verbs would and should should NEVER go in the if part of the sentence".

4. Please tell me the specific page on which “likelihood/possibility“ is discussed.

5. In colloquial sentences, we usually use "be to" to express a future action. In GMAT, you must use "will" or "should" instead.

6. The subjective clause introduced by "that” is correct in GMAT. The frequently used structure is "it can hardly be said that…..", in which "that…" is the really subject but put in a revert position. In this option, the clause preceded by "that…" is put in the original position as the subject, but what is "it is their fault". This sentence is in passive voice, and it doesn't need an object any more.

7. As I haven't worked on Prep yet, please allow me to skip this. However, I haven't noticed "ones can't not refer to people".

-- by 会员 alancui (2011/12/27 22:47:26)

非常感谢！豁然开朗
第1 2 4 5 6题我明白了，但是还有个疑问
第3：您的意思是不是说would/should 不能出现在if条件句中的 if从句部分？

作者: 奈奈奈 时间: 2011-12-28 12:06

-- by 会员奈奈奈 (2011/12/26 16:34:41)

LZ：举的例子来源正确答案么？
是these 指代 hot sauces，但是 and these...感觉 run-on.
若these指代宾语，也说不通啊。
am I right？

-- by 会员 shaoheng1120 (2011/12/27 23:02:00)

these指代endorphins

Besides adding complementary flavors to many foods, hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.

(A)hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's

(B)hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, like exercise, and they have a pain-relieving effect that is like morphine

(C)hot sauces and exercise both stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, and they have a pain-relieving effect like morphine

(D)the release of endorphins in the brain is stimulated both by hot sauces and exercise, and they have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's

(E)the release of endorphins in the brain is stimulated by hot sauces, just as with exercise, and these have a pain-relieving effect like that of morphine

Key：A。

小结：

1)除非很明显，this\these不能单独指代，要补出后面的名词。

2)they指代前面出现的对象，these指代离它最近的对象，指代都要满足逻辑符合，主谓一致的要求。

3)当they前出现两个以上主谓符合的对象时，视其为指代不清。而these前出现两个以上主谓符合的对象时，可以就近指代，比they更佳。

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