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作者: flywood    时间: 2004-8-7 09:37
标题: OG129FAINT

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell. and they are.


(A) have been priced to sell, and they are


(B) are priced to sell, and they have


(C) are priced to sell, and they do


(D) are being priced to sell, and have


(E) had been priced to sell, and they have


这题比较晕:答案C


为了尽力减少他们的存货,意大利葡萄酒商已经降低了价格。他们(酒商)的酒被定价销售,他们(指酒还是酒商?)的确是卖了。


In choice C, the best answer, do is correctly used in place of the full verb do sell; in this verb, do is a conjugated form and sell is in the infinitive form, corresponding to its previous use in the sentence (in the phrase priced to sell).什么意思,是说要和前面平形吗?


我有两个问题:1、题目中的THEYTHEIR分别指代了什么?酒商和酒吗?不违反同一代词在句中指代相同事物的说法吗?

2、C的解释是什么意思,这里AND的并列到底并列是什么?DO和前面的SELL怎么就平行了,头好大这题。
作者: joe11    时间: 2004-8-7 11:32

1. their wines do sell

2. they = vintners, their = vinters', they = wines

3. Complet form:  Their wines are priced to sell, and their wines do sell.


作者: flywood    时间: 2004-8-8 04:32
我觉得我的疑问还是没有解决,再请教中.
作者: ca3ltoys    时间: 2004-8-8 05:15

本人认为代词指代应该一致,所以后面的they肯定指vintners,所以完整句子应该为:


Their wines are priced to sell, and they(vintners) do sell (at cutted prices).


至于答案C的解释个人认为不是要求平行什么的,而是根据上下文的意思,do应该指代sell.设想如果为price,上下文就感觉非冲突或重复。


不知理解是否有问题,待指教。


作者: hpp920    时间: 2004-8-8 09:13

为什么大家总说they do sell? 如果do是stressing word, I think we shouldn't omit "sell" following it. So it is

Their wines are priced to sell, and they(vintners) sell (at cutted prices).


作者: flywood    时间: 2004-8-8 11:44

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell. and they are.

(C) are priced to sell, and they do ,they 到底指什么?呜.......我觉得指酒商我比较理解,可是OG上的解释我觉得更象指酒啊.


作者: hpp920    时间: 2004-8-9 00:49
我也比较赞成是酒商
作者: agk99    时间: 2004-8-9 01:24

個人認為In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines are priced to sell, and they do.平衡對稱,沒有錯

這裡的they是指酒商,本題後半段是指酒商的酒被重新標價出售,而且他們(酒商)積極銷售中。

有朋友提到 do 是加強語氣,所以do 後面該補一個sell 才對,我比較傾向是省略sell the wines後,補上一個do(表sell the wines)來維持平衡

這可以參考OG199

199. Because the Earth’s crust is more solid there and thus better able to transmit shock waves, an earthquake of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West.

(A) of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West

(B) of a given magnitude will typically devastate 100 times the area if it occurs in the eastern United States instead of the West

(C) will typically devastate 100 times the area in the eastern United States than one of comparable magnitude occurring in the West

(D) in the eastern United States will typically devastate an area 100 times greater than will a quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West(D)

(E) that occurs in the eastern United States will typically devastate 100 times more area than if it occurred with comparable magnitude in the West

標準答案是D,為什麼是will呢,不過是 quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West will devastate an area...的倒裝,既然後面都一樣,基於簡潔,保留助動詞 will,再加上由短到長的倒裝原則即可

同樣的OG129 ,(C) are priced to sell, and they do,就是省略sell their wines,既然都一样,就省略補一個助動詞do就好

個人意見請指教



作者: calista5133    时间: 2004-10-10 10:40

標準答案是D,為什麼是will呢,不過是 quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West will devastate an area...的倒裝,既然後面都一樣,基於簡潔,保留助動詞 will

nod ,here 保留助動詞 will because the different two quakes  are comapred with each other,so we should use will to identify there are two different quakes---quake in the west and quake in the east

otherwise some confusion will occur that  it is the  quake that occured in the west  and at the same time the same quake occured in the east.


作者: calista5133    时间: 2004-10-10 10:45

i think the og 129 is in such case as :

Their wines are priced to sell, and they(Their wines ) do  (are priced to sell).

my understanding, to be discussed


作者: 爱维的天    时间: 2004-11-13 23:56
以下是引用calista5133在2004-10-10 10:45:00的发言:

i think the og 129 is in such case as :


Their wines are priced to sell, and they(Their wines ) do  (are priced to sell).


my understanding, to be discussed



好象怪怪的!and前后两句话不就是一样的东西,ETS不会写重复句子的。


赞成5楼﹙hpp920﹚所说的,只稍作改变


Their wines are priced to sell, and they(vintners) do (sell).


因为同一个句子内,代名词所指的应该是同一个,在这儿很明显是指vintnerstheir也是指vintners’


do取代前面出现过的信息—sell.


请指教


作者: fbfamous    时间: 2004-11-30 21:27

我这么认为:

无论do指的是sell还是do sell(强调)都能讲的通,因为我觉得sell本身的意思变了:be priced to sell是定价销售,而后面的sell是卖出去了。换句话说,前面的sell是卖,后面的sell是卖出去了。

为什么这么讲?因为:根据逻辑:酒商要减少库存,那么他们想的办法就是定价销售,结果是确实卖的不错。

至于为什么sell能当“卖出去了”讲,我这么想的,大家常说:it sells well.就是这个卖的不错的意思,这个卖隐含了什么?不就是卖出去了,且卖出去的很多么?同理,去掉well那就是卖出去了(不说卖出去的是多还是不多,反正我卖出去了)这样就是我说的sell的第2个意思了。

至于they我觉得明显是酒商,要不然肯定they和their是矛盾的,ETS不会自己抽自己嘴巴的。


作者: agk99    时间: 2005-1-10 16:15

這一題大家到底怎麼看呢,前前後後討論了六個帖,絕大多數都己經解決了

就是最後一個they是指酒商還是酒

就句意,指酒較合理

但就語法規則,指酒商比較好

請大家繼續給予指教,就不信這題解不出來


作者: trojanlove    时间: 2005-1-11 11:06

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell. and they are.


(C) are priced to sell, and they do

这题比较晕:答案C

我觉得C= their wines are priced to sell, and the wines(also =their wines) do sell.

意思是“他们的酒在销价出售,(结果)酒(不是他们)真的卖得好。

而不是:“他们的酒在销价出售,(结果)他们真的卖得好。主语不平衡。

do在这里只是强调,加强语气的助动词,谓语动词sell省掉了。

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作者: agk99    时间: 2005-1-12 03:24

感謝


作者: smartcoco    时间: 2005-5-4 10:33

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell. and they are.

(A) have been priced to sell, and they are

(B) are priced to sell, and they have

(C) are priced to sell, and they do

(D) are being priced to sell, and have

(E) had been priced to sell, and they have


作者: smartcoco    时间: 2005-5-4 10:37

sorry !

(C) are priced to sell, and they do

why do the answer C use the the simple present tense?


作者: julietayue    时间: 2005-5-5 07:59

其实这道题好好看看OG的解释就知道“and they do”的they指的是人wintner,而不是酒了。

解释中说“In choice A, the omitte word is selling; in B, D,E, it is sold."那么我们把省略的补上,A就是they are selling;B,D,E则是they have sold。如果they指的是酒,那么这里肯定要用被动式,而不是主动式了。

我认为"their wines are priced to sell, and they do"之所以用一般现在时,因为这是举的一个例子。即由于酒消价处理,卖的很好。所以酒商为了减少库存,(对其他商品)采取了消价的办法。而且这也是这里使用分号的原因了。

我这么认为的,希望大家讨论

还是觉得这句话太bt了


作者: violetyang83    时间: 2005-5-10 10:20

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell. and they are.

(A) have been priced to sell, and they are

(B) are priced to sell, and they have

(C) are priced to sell, and they do

(D) are being priced to sell, and have

(E) had been priced to sell, and they have

这个题目关于大家争执的部分我觉得ETS中they 和their是可以指不同的东东的。在OG前面(具体哪道我记不清楚了)中有一道题it 和its 在题干部分就指代的不同对象。

我有个问题是,C选项的do是怎么用的?有do (to sell)这样的表示方法吗?我觉得是一种emphasize更合适啊。 还有就是A如果改为(A) have been priced to sell, and they are sold是不是就对了呢?

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作者: actu    时间: 2005-5-11 19:14

真的晕了!

看了大家的讨论,有一点似乎没有被重视:

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell. and they are.

(A)  have been priced to sell, and they are

(B)  are priced to sell, and they have

(C)  are priced to sell, and they do

(D)  are being priced to sell, and have

(E)   had been priced to sell, and they have

In choice C, the best answer, do is correctly used in place of the full verb do sell; in this verb, do is a conjugated form and sell is in the infinitive form, corresponding to its previous use in the sentence (in the phrase priced to sell). In choice A, the omitted word is selling; in B, D, and E, it is sold. Neither of these forms corresponds properly to to sell earlier in the sentence. Also, in E, the past perfect had been priced signifies that the wines had been priced to sell before the prices were cut.

这个and they do 指的是they do to sell (sell is in the infinitive form, corresponding to its previous use in the sentence (in the phrase priced to sell)) 而不是they do sell的强调用法。这里的do不是代替sell而是把sell给省略。所以,关键在于这个do到底指的是什么?尤其Og说:do is a conjugated form,到底是什么意思?

我来乱猜一下:有没有可能是they do (做某事) to sell????会不会是指they do (cut prices) to sell??整句的意思就是说:意大利的酒商为了要降低库存而降价;他们的酒都是定价出售,而且他们降价出售。

唉!都乱了!大家再讨论一下吧!
作者: snowjing    时间: 2005-7-8 11:54

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作者: vezdeu    时间: 2005-7-8 12:09
以下是引用julietayue在2005-5-5 7:59:00的发言:

其实这道题好好看看OG的解释就知道“and they do”的they指的是人wintner,而不是酒了。


解释中说“In choice A, the omitte word is selling; in B, D,E, it is sold."那么我们把省略的补上,A就是they are selling;B,D,E则是they have sold。如果they指的是酒,那么这里肯定要用被动式,而不是主动式了。


我认为"their wines are priced to sell, and they do"之所以用一般现在时,因为这是举的一个例子。即由于酒消价处理,卖的很好。所以酒商为了减少库存,(对其他商品)采取了消价的办法。而且这也是这里使用分号的原因了。


我这么认为的,希望大家讨论


还是觉得这句话太bt了


关于语法:后面分句用分号隔开,用they指代葡萄酒没有任何不妥。


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作者: vezdeu    时间: 2005-7-8 12:17
以下是引用julietayue在2005-5-5 7:59:00的发言:

其实这道题好好看看OG的解释就知道“and they do”的they指的是人wintner,而不是酒了。


解释中说“In choice A, the omitte word is selling; in B, D,E, it is sold."那么我们把省略的补上,A就是they are selling;B,D,E则是they have sold。如果they指的是酒,那么这里肯定要用被动式,而不是主动式了。


我认为"their wines are priced to sell, and they do"之所以用一般现在时,因为这是举的一个例子。即由于酒消价处理,卖的很好。所以酒商为了减少库存,(对其他商品)采取了消价的办法。而且这也是这里使用分号的原因了。


我这么认为的,希望大家讨论


还是觉得这句话太bt了



they do sell 中的they指的是葡萄酒。


举个例子:
these books sell well 意思是这些书卖得很好。


sell表示买得如何的时候,主语是被出售的商品。


英语中这个句式是很常用的:they swore to win the game, and they did. 等等,表示事实的确如此的意思。


作者: vezdeu    时间: 2005-7-8 12:36
以下是引用agk99在2004-8-9 1:24:00的发言:

個人認為In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vint­ners have cut prices; their wines are priced to sell, and they do.平衡對稱,沒有錯


這裡的they是指酒商,本題後半段是指酒商的酒被重新標價出售,而且他們(酒商)積極銷售中。


有朋友提到 do 是加強語氣,所以do 後面該補一個sell 才對,我比較傾向是省略sell the wines後,補上一個do(表sell the wines)來維持平衡


這可以參考OG199


199. Because the Earth’s crust is more solid there and thus better able to transmit shock waves, an earthquake of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West.


(A) of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West


(B) of a given magnitude will typically devastate 100 times the area if it occurs in the eastern United States instead of the West


(C) will typically devastate 100 times the area in the eastern United States than one of comparable magnitude occurring in the West


(D) in the eastern United States will typically devastate an area 100 times greater than will a quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West(D)


(E) that occurs in the eastern United States will typically devastate 100 times more area than if it occurred with comparable magnitude in the West


標準答案是D,為什麼是will呢,不過是 quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West will devastate an area...的倒裝,既然後面都一樣,基於簡潔,保留助動詞 will,再加上由短到長的倒裝原則即可


同樣的OG129 ,(C) are priced to sell, and they do,就是省略sell their wines,既然都一样,就省略補一個助動詞do就好


個人意見請指教



首先,如果they指代葡萄酒商人在距以上是说不通的。的确,可以按照汉语的意思进行翻译,但是不可否认的,英语中没有这样的说法。


OG199和这个是没有可比性的:199是一个比较结构省略will后面的谓语,如果套用到此处,they就会知道不清(尚且不说句意被更改)——they在分号后面的分句,指代的应该是后分句主语。


回到最初那句话,c选项这句话是英语中一个常用的模式,表示“的确如此(如计划那样,如所希望的那样)”的意思


作者: vezdeu    时间: 2005-7-8 12:39
以下是引用smartcoco在2005-5-4 10:37:00的发言:

sorry !


(C) are priced to sell, and they do


why do the answer C use the the simple present tense?



描述的事现在的情况。从技术角度判断,后面分句整个都是现在时
作者: livary    时间: 2005-10-31 14:13

我想应该是因为are priced to sell和do(sell)都是发生在现在完成时have cut prices之后的,也就是现在发生的。。。


另外我认为they这里的确是指Italian vintners,因为按ETS一贯思路,不允许同一类型代词(for example,they/their/them)指代不同对象的;何况they指代Italian vintners也说得通,they do (sell their wines)...我觉得这没有任何问题啊。。。


作者: hamberge    时间: 2006-2-5 12:54
借这个贴子问同一个问题:
(A)have been priced to sell, and they are
不知道有什么不妥?ETS给出省略的部分是selling, 我这样理解,酒商之前就有过削价的行动,直到现在,所以用现在完成时。而现在为了减少库存,再降一次价(降得多点),他们正在on sale, 正在削价处理。找遍以前的贴子,大多在讨论they的指代问题,没有涉及这个问题。我的想法是错的,但肯请NN帮我指出!救人于水火之中!
作者: hamberge    时间: 2006-2-7 11:29
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作者: supremefeng    时间: 2006-2-23 20:34
以下是引用hamberge在2006-2-5 12:54:00的发言:
借这个贴子问同一个问题:
(A)have been priced to sell, and they are
不知道有什么不妥?ETS给出省略的部分是selling, 我这样理解,酒商之前就有过削价的行动,直到现在,所以用现在完成时。而现在为了减少库存,再降一次价(降得多点),他们正在on sale, 正在削价处理。找遍以前的贴子,大多在讨论they的指代问题,没有涉及这个问题。我的想法是错的,但肯请NN帮我指出!救人于水火之中!

在顶。In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut prices; their wines____________

为什么前面是have cut, 后面就不是用have been priced?


作者: shzzhengfan    时间: 2006-2-24 00:10

我认为 They=Their wines。 they do= they sell. 请大家想个问题:怎样说:这酒卖的很好。应该是:the wine sells well. 所以大家不要觉得 the wine sells(they do)很怪,翻译成:他们的酒被重新定价销售,并且卖出去了。不知是否有理?


作者: lyle    时间: 2006-3-28 21:15

不作任何og解释里没设计到的推测。og告诉什么就是什么。


我觉得这题主要想传达给我们的意思是“省略”。当要省略时,必须是在前面出现过的,为避免重复才省略;而且省略的部分必须跟前面出现过的部分完全一样,包括时态,数等。


也就是og中说的 In choice A, the omitted word is selling; in B, D, and E, it is sold. Neither of these forms corresponds properly to to sell earlier in the sentence.


即,A是selling,BDE是sold跟前面出现的to sell 不一致。


且,do is correctly used in place of the full verb do sell; in this verb, do is a conjugated form and sell is in the infinitive form, corresponding to its previous use in the sentence (in the phrase priced to sell).


即do=do (to) sell,to sell跟前面的to sell对应,则省略。


注:张道真实用英语语法里提过“不定式分为两种,即带to的不定式和不带to的不定式”。所以og所说的sell跟to sell对应是正确的,都是不定式,只不过是两种表现形式。


作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2006-6-7 23:16

I think that "they" refers to the wine.

If "they" refers to the vintners, there should be an object after the verb "sell" cuz "sell"

is vt when it means "offer for sale".

When "sell" means "be bought", it should be used as:

The book sode well and wes reprinted many times.






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