20. The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.
(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting有歧义,不知是used/suspected平行,还是used/taped平行,两者都错/supporting放在这里,错
(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting有歧义,不知是used/suspected平行,还是used/taped平行,supporting放在这里,错,as的用法
(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support平行有歧义
(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support of平行无歧义,would表猜测,这里合适(D)
(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive of supportive of 错/obtained时态错/as的用法
Choice A, B, and C are incorrect because then must be followed by a construction that parallels of having in line2—that is, by of and a present participial, or “-ing”, verb form. (平行) Choice D is best. Choice E is very wordy, awkward, and indirect. The question is of middle difficulty.
答案及解释都没有问题 我想问的是
used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting在这里as的用法对不对啊
哪里可查找到关于as的用法 除了LZM
谢谢
as的一个用法是引导一个较长时间段的时间状语。例如:
OG69题,解释里说at the time不好,不能表达出a extended period of time,而正确答案就是as
OG84题,解释里说when in C and D is less precise than as in characterizing a prolonged and gradual process such as aging.
照以上的说法,这里的as好像用的不太好吧。obtained是一时的动作。
as的一个用法是引导一个较长时间段的时间状语。例如:
OG69题,解释里说at the time不好,不能表达出a extended period of time,而正确答案就是as
OG84题,解释里说when in C and D is less precise than as in characterizing a prolonged and gradual process such as aging.
照以上的说法,这里的as好像用的不太好吧。obtained是一时的动作。
对!谢谢!
我感觉as如果作为时间状语的引导词不对
因为obtain是及物动词 如果要用as 引导的话 要用as的话 要用as they obtained information
而这里obtain后没有东西 所以as不能用 只能that或省略
哈哈,走眼了,这里不是use .. as,而是such ... as
这句话我查了词典,如你所说,as不能引导时间状语;在这里和OG的题里都不是引导时间状语。
在这里as作为连词出现意为:和...一样;把这句话翻译出来,such information as they obtained 这些信息和他们以前获得的一样;the information they had obtained 他们以前所获得的信息;两句的表达有着不同的意思,尽管差别很细微,却是ETS的考试的偏好。
我主要是读了LZM P188后 非常困惑
the same + n. as 结构中 as=that/hwo/that/whom/whne/where
对于as 的这种用法 that 可以与之互换
I read the same book as most young people do. (as=that)
我想在这题里 as不能等于that吧
You uses as to say how something happens or is done,or to indicate that something happens or is done in the same way as something else.
the same as中的as 引导的是后面的句子和前面的句子的动作做比较,两者相似。换成that后变成that从句修饰book,没有了前后动作的比较,而且我觉得换成that后面就不能用do,应该还原成read。
这题再帮助看看 好吗
如我前面所说,such information as they obtained是两类信息,the information they had obtained 是一种信息,前者是可以看成是类比,后者看成修饰限制,这道题按照原文得意思当然取后者。
我主要是读了LZM P188后 非常困惑
the same + n. as 结构中 as=that/hwo/that/whom/whne/where
对于as 的这种用法 that 可以与之互换
I read the same book as most young people do. (as=that)
我想在这题里 as不能等于that吧
我的理解,这里as不能等于that. 象leeon说的,as比较的是动作。意思是,我和年轻人读的书是一样的。如果用that, 修饰的是book,意思是,我读的那本书就是年轻人读的那本书。(感觉像是手抄本,呵呵) 请NN指点.
回到这道题的choice E: of using such information as they obtained, 这里的as应该是和such连接的,表示举例。这里应该没有举例的含义,而且应该是information such as ...。
i think in this case the information they had obtained is better than information as they obtained ,for when the lawyer suspected the police ,the imformation had been obtained.
i find ets especially LIKE TO test such structure as:suspect sb of doing x and of doing y,a lot of cased can prove this,就是在一个句子出现N个动词,让你弄不清哪个和哪个对称.
谢谢rhod leeon 的耐心解答
我基本理解 我想LZM的那段话对我起了很大的误导作用
我查了郎文 as只有介词和连词 没有作为关系代词之说
也就是说
such information as they obtained , as 与such 没有什么本质的联系 as 只是作为连词 象 什么一样 obtained 后是省略了information 对吗
今天碰到另一题 正是用as的这个结构
补充题250-T20:20. Never before in the history of music have musical superstars been able to command so extraordinary fees of the kind they do today.
(A) so extraordinary fees of the kind they do today用such对,用so 错/ of the kind错
(B) so extraordinary fees as they are today用such对,用so 错/are错
(C) such extraordinary fees as they do today
(D) such extraordinary fees of the kind today’s have of the kind错/as they do today(C)
(A) so extraordinary a fee of the kind they can today用such对,用so 错/ of the kind错
意思表达为:在音乐的历史上,没有任何巨星能象现在一样要求这么高的报酬。
谢谢
我的理解,这里as不能等于that. 象leeon说的,as比较的是动作。意思是,我和年轻人读的书是一样的。如果用that, 修饰的是book,意思是,我读的那本书就是年轻人读的那本书。(感觉像是手抄本,呵呵) 请NN指点.
回到这道题的choice E: of using such information as they obtained, 这里的as应该是和such连接的,表示举例。这里应该没有举例的含义,而且应该是information such as ...。
as/that的用法区别 我赞同你和leeon的观点
但是说such...as 这里用于举例 我认为不对
因为as只是作为连词 表示跟什么一样 而such只是表示这样的 such.. as 没有什么举例的意思
也就是说E的意思是 跟他们获得的信息一样 AAA使用信息 并没有举例的意思
谢谢
paopao, 不好意思,我前面说的不太准确。
先总结一下such as和such ... as ...。
1. such as是举例,for example的意思.
2. such adj. + n. as ...,是象...一样adj.的意思,比如such extraordinary fees as they do today, 意思是象现在一样昂贵的收费。这里有对形容词作比较的含义。
3. such + n. as ..., 根据longman, used to refer only to people or things of a particular group or kind, 意思是特指一群事物或人。我感觉这里有点象限定性定语从句的作用,比如Such individuals who take up this role often find life frustrating, 意思说还有individual没有take up this role.
考察这道题目,such information as they obtained, 没有形容词,不符合第2种,所以不是象什么什么一样的意思。第3种情况可以说的通,但是我觉得没有第一种说法合理。(所以我前面说是举例的意思,这道题没有举例的意思。)
回到such as的用法,我觉得以上3种里的as都是和such有关的。
以上只是个人的看法,请大家指正。
我真是越读语法书感觉问题越多
在张道真书中 Such people as you describe are rare nowadays. as作为引导定语从句 这样作为指代 这跟LZM中的一致
As I remember, she was working at the army hospital. as作为连词引导状语
我原以为搞明白了 可是还是感到糊涂 真是希望有个统一的标准
在张道真书中 Such people as you describe are rare nowadays. as作为引导定语从句 这样作为指代 这跟LZM中的一致
如果as是引导定语从句,这里=that,代入修饰people的话,岂不是你描述的那些人are rare nowadays;而不是这些人如你所描述的are rare nowadays。前一种表述明显有问题。
As I remember, she was working at the army hospital. as作为连词引导状语
这里的我仍然将后面的she was working at the army hospital看成I remember的内容,既as引导非限制性定语从句,而不是连词,而且这个句子比较怪异,用了 was working 。
leeon:
我现在完全赞同你的看法
1 as在句首或句末可以引导非限定性从句 我想作为指代或连词 判断的唯一依据应该是指代在从句作成分
如As I remember, she was working at the army hospital.
2 the same as/ such...as as 作为如 象什么一样 不是作为指代引导定语从句 就跟你分析的那样
rhod:
你总结的第三种such .. as 可能还是有错
3. such + n. as ..., 根据longman, used to refer only to people or things of a particular group or kind, 意思是特指一群事物或人。我感觉这里有点象限定性定语从句的作用,比如Such individuals as take up this role often find life frustrating, 意思说还有individual没有take up this role.
不是承担任务的这些人 而是如承担任务的这些人
你可以参考一下leeon 的解释 我想他是对的
谢谢你们的帮助
我的意思不是as引导了一个限定性定语从句,实际上我前面讨论的不是as的用法,而是such as的用法。
我的意思是说such + n. + as是特指一群事物或人,而不是as引导了一个定语从句修饰这个名词。
呵呵,我没看出来这两种说法有什么不一样,说到底不还是refer了一群人吗?另外,我觉得这里的"如"不是as的含义,而是such的含义。
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