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作者: roberta    时间: 2004-7-30 09:29
标题: 请教OG 182 (them 代词问题)(多谢!)

182. Consumers may not think of household cleaning products to be hazardous substances, but many of them can be harmful to health, especially if they are used improperly.



(A)  Consumers may not think of household cleaning products to be



(B)   Consumers may not think of household cleaning products being



(C)  A consumer may not think of their household cleaning products being



(D)  A consumer may not think of household cleaning products as



(E)   Household cleaning products may not be thought of, by consumers, as



D是正确选项。可是我觉得E相对D指代更明确一些,因为E中上半句的主语是household cleaning products,和后面many of them中的them 相对应,而且是不是说这种一般都是优先指代主语的(即是household cleaning products)??不过我也承认E中用的被动语态看起来有些awkward.



而选项D虽然在此句中也不太容易歧义,因为D中前句的主语是单数形式的a  consumer,后面的them也会是指代a consumer,可总感觉有一些变扭,毕竟说是指代一般优先指代主语,是不是这样呢??



不知大家是如何判断这个的,还请多多指教啊,谢谢!!


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作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-30 10:17
以下是引用roberta在2004-7-30 9:29:00的发言:

182. Consumers may not think of household cleaning products to be hazardous substances, but many of them can be harmful to health, especially if they are used improperly.



(A)  Consumers may not think of household cleaning products to be



(B)   Consumers may not think of household cleaning products being



(C)  A consumer may not think of their household cleaning products being



(D)  A consumer may not think of household cleaning products as



(E)   Household cleaning products may not be thought of, by consumers, as



D是正确选项。可是我觉得E相对D指代更明确一些,因为E中上半句的主语是household cleaning products,和后面many of them中的them 相对应,而且是不是说这种一般都是优先指代主语的'优先指代主语' is not as good as 'exactly指代主语'; (即是household cleaning products)??不过我也承认E中用的被动语态看起来有些awkward.



而选项D虽然在此句中也不太容易歧义,因为D中前句的主语是单数形式的a  consumer,后面的them也会是指代a consumer???可总感觉有一些变扭,毕竟说是指代一般优先指代主语,是不是这样呢??



不知大家是判断这个的,还请多多指教啊,谢谢!!



作者: roberta    时间: 2004-7-30 10:46

谢谢stone斑竹帮忙把重点标示出来了!!


这看起来更pp啦~~~


不好意思,刚刚才发现自己少打了一个“不”字,我愿意是想说"them也不会是指代a customer 的,可是总觉得有些变扭....", hehe...,在此改正过来。


再次感谢stone斑竹的答复,明白了


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作者: 甜橙    时间: 2004-9-9 03:22
想知道:E中是不是后面的them有可能被误认为指代sonsumers从而存在指代不清?OG好像没有对此做出解释。谢谢!
作者: agk99    时间: 2004-9-9 03:32

E當然也可算是指代不清

這在AB有同樣的問題


作者: 甜橙    时间: 2004-9-9 04:06

谢谢!目前正以OG为圣经的我对于一切OG中没有提到的都希望能得到确认。


作者: wingkim    时间: 2005-10-31 20:59

But D,I do not think that there is ambigity because "them" and "they" are the same pronoun of "products",or they can not be said "are used improperly".


作者: supremefeng    时间: 2006-3-3 11:40
以下是引用roberta在2004-7-30 9:29:00的发言:

182. Consumers may not think of household cleaning products to be hazardous substances, but many of them can be harmful to health, especially if they are used improperly.



(A)  Consumers may not think of household cleaning products to be



(B)   Consumers may not think of household cleaning products being



(C)  A consumer may not think of their household cleaning products being



(D)  A consumer may not think of household cleaning products as



(E)   Household cleaning products may not be thought of, by consumers, as



D是正确选项。可是我觉得E相对D指代更明确一些,因为E中上半句的主语是household cleaning products,和后面many of them中的them 相对应,而且是不是说这种一般都是优先指代主语的(即是household cleaning products)??不过我也承认E中用的被动语态看起来有些awkward.



而选项D虽然在此句中也不太容易歧义,因为D中前句的主语是单数形式的a  consumer,后面的them也会是指代a consumer,可总感觉有一些变扭,毕竟说是指代一般优先指代主语,是不是这样呢??



不知大家是如何判断这个的,还请多多指教啊,谢谢!!




再次请教以上问题!谢谢1


作者: 小猪旭旭    时间: 2006-10-20 17:24
后面的them指代products
作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-1-20 00:38

og 的解释并没有提及指代歧义问题。那么og应该认可通过逻辑判断限定了指代的唯一性。但通过逻辑限定避免歧义的规则是什么?请NN赐教

附上og解释

A correct sentence will follow the idiomatic form of expression to think of X as Y. Only D, the best choice, uses as in the comparison. The infinitive to be in A and the participle being in B and C cannot grammatically and idiomatically connect those choices to the rest of the sentence. Moreover, in C the plural pronoun their does not agree with the singular noun referent, consumer. E is awkward and wordy in its use of the passive voice


作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-1-20 06:34

再问?


作者: aeoluseros    时间: 2009-1-20 12:54

代词指代的规则有两点:

1、主从句、并列句后一句的主语代词对前一句的主语优先指代(但不是一定指代)。

2、看逻辑。有时甚至可以一个句子同一个代词指代不同的事物。

umm...按照这个思路多做几个题目就能感觉到我说的规则了。


作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-1-20 23:59
多谢斑竹,看来我还是差很远啊,需多加练习。
当代词有多个指代可能时,通过逻辑判断,og有时认定指代有歧义,但这个题og认为无指代歧义。这个逻辑判断标准太模糊了!还请斑竹详细讲解,多谢
作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-1-21 08:56
经过考古,有一些眉目了。见
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=23&replyid=105288&id=15311&page=1&skin=0&Star=3

参考其中og227讨论,及大N, gemj精彩解释。
这个题og之所以不认为them 有指代歧义。是因为逻辑上them 只能指代substances, 不能指代consumers, 因为consumers can be harmful to health. 逻辑意思不合理。所以无指代歧义。

作者: aeoluseros    时间: 2009-1-21 13:09

恩:)平时其实可以多留意其他经典阅读材料,大多经典著作(GMAT,GRE的阅读也是)都写得很符合标准语法,很多句子里同一个代词指代不同事物,甚至会出现he asked him这种句子,看多了就能深刻体会那重“根据逻辑意思来判断”的意思了。

ps:GMAT语法虽然严格,但是并没有什么独特的东西,语法书上基本都能查出某个判断规则的来龙去脉。只是有时必须查阅很多语法书才行,有点绕圈子的感觉。


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作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-1-22 10:57
多谢斑竹指点
作者: mxlpolaris    时间: 2009-7-31 13:25

E:Householde cleaning products may not be thought of, by consumers,as

OG的解释说:E:passive-voice construction is awkward and wordy

关于awkward是不是这么认为,by consumer前后都不用comma,而是直接写成

Householde cleaning products may not be thought of by consumers

然后还有这句读起来确实怪怪的。。。

我刚开始复习,问题比较笨哦,请赐教!!谢谢!






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